We're headed for socialism

We're headed for socialism

There are 1529 comments on the South Florida Sun-Sentinel story from May 13, 2009, titled We're headed for socialism. In it, South Florida Sun-Sentinel reports that:

I lived and worked in Paris, France , in the 1970s and early 1980s. At that time, France was governed by Francois Mitterand, a socialist, and Georges Marchais, Communist Party head.

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Since: Nov 08

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#1068 Jun 20, 2009
The laughing liberal wrote:
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You take a raw cia statistic and have no idea of the applicable factors so I explain it and you r lost again.
Here's a clue:
Comparing infant mortality rates between countries is fraught with uncertainty—after all, it's hard to argue that every country's figures are reliable.
But it's still worth asking what more we can do to stop babies from dying. Defined as death before one year of age, infant mortality frequently gets framed in the United States as a problem of insufficient health-care funding. In December, for example, a New York Times column blamed it on the lack of a single-payer health insurer.
However, a closer look reveals the counterintuitive possibility that high infant mortality in the United States might be the unintended side effect of increased spending on medical care.
Infant deaths in poor nations are roughly six times more common than in developed areas and result mainly from easily treated infections like diarrhea in the first few months.
By contrast, the majority of deaths in developed countries result from extreme prematurity or birth defects that kill a newborn in the first few days or weeks of life.
According to a 2002 analysis by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, at least a third of all infant mortality in the United States arises from complications of prematurity; other studies assert the figure is closer to half.
Thus—at the risk of oversimplifying—infant mortality in the United States principally is a problem of premature birth, which today complicates just over one in 10 pregnancies.
http://www.slate.com/id/2161899/
READ THE STORY & TRY TO UNDERSTAND or else by a typical dumbarse puppet manipulated by talking points.
Why can't you add anything to the discussion?
Nope, I'll let the facts speak for themselves. but if you want cut and paste here is some

(CNN)-- An estimated 2 million babies die within their first 24 hours each year worldwide and the United States has the second worst newborn mortality rate in the developed world, according to a new report.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/parenting/05/0...

Since: Nov 08

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#1069 Jun 20, 2009
The laughing liberal wrote:
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You take a raw cia statistic and have no idea of the applicable factors so I explain it and you r lost again.
By the way I acknowledge your link was from a credible source.

“Cake or Death?”

Since: Dec 08

Palm Beach

#1071 Jun 21, 2009
What has Obama done other than stay the course..

Obama has uped troop counts..

Obama will push thru the National Medicad Program or whatever you want to call it.. becuase big business wants it..

Obama is no Kennedy and wants to live longer than 1,000 days.

Right, left and / or middle be damned it is about the lobby and all of the above lack the lobby big business has in place churning away the results desired.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#1072 Jun 21, 2009
Ramafuchs wrote:
Most of the decent citizens around wht world are fed up with USA's consumerism; anti humanism and banal corporatism..
let us change the world without USA'Äs help
Fine. Leave.
In your absence,we can probably reduce the massive amount of foreign aid by at least 50%...
Publius_ Apprentice

United States

#1073 Jun 22, 2009
A Watcher wrote:
<quoted text>Again where in the Constitution does it say you can't?
PS: What about General Foreign aid? Where is that in the Constitution? Guess we can't do that either?
Technically the funding for Parental Health Groups is considered Foreign aid.
Can 'General Foreign aid' be derived from anything in the Constitution?

Since: Nov 08

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#1074 Jun 22, 2009
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Fine. Leave.
In your absence,we can probably reduce the massive amount of foreign aid by at least 50%...
What massive amount of foreign aid? We are the cheapest country in the UN (we give the most dollars but @ the lowest % of GDP) and 80% of what we do give goes to American contractors like GE and Brown and Root (who have a new name I hear) Meanwhile we spend a full half of the worlds military budget, have 5% of the worlds population and 25% of the world prisoners. Kids in Europe are a year and a half ahead of us by grade 12, Japanese India and Korea 2 years. We no longer can compete on any level in mathematics, reading or writing. We lead the modern world in preventable death, infant mortality and have the second worse quality of life for children. We got a long way to go before we can start patting ourselves on the back.

We have a real image problem we must fix.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#1075 Jun 22, 2009
mike_lee wrote:
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What massive amount of foreign aid? We are the cheapest country in the UN (we give the most dollars but @ the lowest % of GDP) and 80% of what we do give goes to American contractors like GE and Brown and Root (who have a new name I hear) Meanwhile we spend a full half of the worlds military budget, have 5% of the worlds population and 25% of the world prisoners. Kids in Europe are a year and a half ahead of us by grade 12, Japanese India and Korea 2 years. We no longer can compete on any level in mathematics, reading or writing. We lead the modern world in preventable death, infant mortality and have the second worse quality of life for children. We got a long way to go before we can start patting ourselves on the back.
We have a real image problem we must fix.
Are you under the impression that we have some kind of obligation to tithe based on GDP? The fact that we give (much) more than anyone else is sufficient. Or did you have a specific percentage in mind?

I don't recognize the reference to contractors - is that a conspiracy theory?

Right. The only thing more expensive than having the best military around is having the second-best. And you're comparing incarceration rates with countries run by criminals. That may not be a valid comparison.

The educational system could be improved with an axe, granted; but the chopees must include the teachers' unions and tenure, and result-oriented programs must be installed in their place.

The rest of your post is in an Art Bell analog reality.
Family guy

New Orleans, LA

#1076 Jun 22, 2009
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Are you under the impression that we have some kind of obligation to tithe based on GDP? The fact that we give (much) more than anyone else is sufficient. Or did you have a specific percentage in mind?
I don't recognize the reference to contractors - is that a conspiracy theory?
Right. The only thing more expensive than having the best military around is having the second-best. And you're comparing incarceration rates with countries run by criminals. That may not be a valid comparison.
The educational system could be improved with an axe, granted; but the chopees must include the teachers' unions and tenure, and result-oriented programs must be installed in their place.
The rest of your post is in an Art Bell analog reality.
whatever we give the UN is a complete waste, they are completely ineffective anyway
I agree with the rest

“Doot de doot”

Since: Oct 07

doot doot da...!

#1077 Jun 22, 2009
Family guy wrote:
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whatever we give the UN is a complete waste, they are completely ineffective anyway
I agree with the rest
Well, aren't you special Ed? The right has been pissing and moaning about the UN since it was still called the League of Nations. Who cares...?
libs are scared

Hermosa Beach, CA

#1078 Jun 22, 2009
mike_lee wrote:
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What massive amount of foreign aid? We are the cheapest country in the UN (we give the most dollars but @ the lowest % of GDP) and 80% of what we do give goes to American contractors like GE and Brown and Root (who have a new name I hear) Meanwhile we spend a full half of the worlds military budget, have 5% of the worlds population and 25% of the world prisoners. Kids in Europe are a year and a half ahead of us by grade 12, Japanese India and Korea 2 years. We no longer can compete on any level in mathematics, reading or writing. We lead the modern world in preventable death, infant mortality and have the second worse quality of life for children. We got a long way to go before we can start patting ourselves on the back.
We have a real image problem we must fix.
That must be why everyone is moving to India, China and the communist and socialist countries. They are so much better off than we are!
The Truth

Kalamazoo, MI

#1079 Jun 22, 2009
I am tired of hearing, socialist, marxist...or any other i.s.t. Look, whether we like it or not we are not nor have we ever been a soley capitalistic country. These are more scare tactics. I love the fiscal conservatism of the REAL GOP...It pains me to see that I don't recieve any real ideas or solutions. Republicans and Democrats helped to tank the economy. What's done is done...so now fix it!! We the people pay for their salaries, so i for one don't care what ist comes next as long as we hold firm on ALL of our values as a country and maintain our military strength. THE TRUTH is that the middle class and poor are the ones that get it in the end regardless if Democrats or Republicans are in office. We've been utilizing a mixed form of Socialim and Capitalism for decades. Can anyone say Medicare or Medicaid? Tax cuts for the rich? Nearly all politicians serve themselves not their constituants. Why is it that we cry socialism, but when taxes are extracted from YOUR paycheck it pays for ALL Politicians to use private jets to travel... Those same taxes go to people (of every race)that abuse and drain the social system such as food stamps. People when bankers and ceos can do a reverse robin hood by stealing from the poor and giving to the rich...we have to wake up and see that the notion that we've been a capitalistic society is nothing more than a sham. People are now paying closer attention because of so called capitalism going bad. If we truly practiced true capitalism along with REAL and TRUE AMERICAN VALUES... we would not be in this mess. Capitalism is great only when it is practiced with discipline. Because socialism is eembeded into our country we should stop trying to make it sound like a bad word and do all that we can to fix this broken system!! All Ideas on deck pleassse!!! We need to fix it fast because China's patience is running super thin!! We will not have to worry about Capitialism, Marxism or Socialism if they become overburdened with our debt and decide to allow Kim Jong in North Korea or Iran to take us out or we'll all become indentured servants to the Chinese...
Zombie Corpse Rental

San Jose, CA

#1080 Jun 22, 2009
Why would anyone pay attention to a retiree from drug-soaked crime-infested Florida and his inane opinions about how France sucks?

Clean up Miami and then give us a call.
Anti Bilderberg

Seattle, WA

#1081 Jun 22, 2009
Andrew Jackson, also known as Old Hickery , was one of my favorite presidents. If you are against $ 700 Billion dollar bailouts, then President Jackson is the man. No President was perfect, but they all have their good points. When it came to banks. President Jackson did not mess around.

Opposition to the National Bank

The Second Bank of the United States was authorized for a twenty year period during James Madison's tenure in 1816. As President, Jackson worked to rescind the bank's federal charter. In Jackson's veto message (written by George Bancroft), the bank needed to be abolished because:

1.It concentrated the nation's financial strength in a single institution.

2.It exposed the government to control by foreign interests.

3.It served mainly to make the rich richer.

4.It exercised too much control over members of Congress.

5.It favored northeastern states over southern and western states.

Following Jefferson, Jackson supported an "agricultural republic" and felt the Bank improved the fortunes of an "elite circle" of commercial and industrial entrepreneurs at the expense of farmers and laborers. After a titanic struggle, Jackson succeeded in destroying the Bank by vetoing its 1832 re-charter by Congress and by withdrawing U.S. funds in 1833. The bank's money-lending functions were taken over by the legions of local and state banks that sprang up.

President Jackson is the only president in United States history to have paid off the national debt.

Now thats a president.

http://video.google.com/videoplay...
Family guy

United States

#1082 Jun 23, 2009
Skunk River Joe wrote:
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Well, aren't you special Ed? The right has been pissing and moaning about the UN since it was still called the League of Nations. Who cares...?
Without boring you with a long history lesson on the failure of the UN or LofN, lets just say its a waste of money, that in of itself gives me reason to care.

“Doot de doot”

Since: Oct 07

doot doot da...!

#1083 Jun 23, 2009
Family guy wrote:
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Without boring you with a long history lesson on the failure of the UN or LofN, lets just say its a waste of money, that in of itself gives me reason to care.
The UN or something like it is our last, best hope. If we are not, somehow united we will destroy ourselves. That is a certainty. Feudalism, religion, ethnicity, greed and primitive nation-states will continue to consume us as a species. If there is no change in direction, the outcome is undeniable. The end of humanity as a viable species. Screw the past. Screw partisan crap. Screw borders and national self delusion, Screw cheap, phoney patriotism. The only thing worth saving is the future.
su par

Deland, FL

#1084 Jun 23, 2009
Unless those protest parties work I believe our nation is dead as we know it. And there are many people who would enjoy it. The next election cycle does no good if the same kind of people who Republicans have run in the past. There are some things we have to come to term with. On foreign affairs there will be large arguments between globalists and constitutionalists. Internally rights must be returned to the people. All of the fascist departments and martial laws waiting to be enacted must be removed. The social welfare/prison complex must be changed. Convicted drug users who are non violent should not be felons. Eliminating corruption and tort reform is is mandatory for the next wave of candidates. And that includes cheating in everything from welfare to government contracts to consumer issues, etc. The political correctness, feminism, gay rights agendas must start thinking with common sense. And that includes everything from hiring practices to how we speak to each other in a civil manner. Taxes must be lowered. Personal responsibility must be elevated as someone else should not pay for others screw ups. There is more. But this nation will never compete again as what we are now doing. We are not taxed at paying 20% of our wealth to the government. We live off of our past, each other and sadly off of the people not as fortunate in other nations. We are better then that. We forgot where we came from. And many people today do not care about it. Forty years of this and the economy is not good. In the 1930's they had ten years of excesses before the economy tanked. Do the math and figure out how bad thing will get.
boqueronman

Cojutepeque, El Salvador

#1085 Jun 23, 2009
Please, lefty zombies, stop reading the "Talking Points for Obamatrons" and do a little independent research. Yes, we are not high on the ODA (look it up) per capita charts. BUT, for you "Big Government Uber Alles" types, private contributions comprise 80 percent of U.S. foreign aid. In fact, U.S. charitable foundations gave more -- in money, time, goods and expertise -- than 11 of the 22 developed-country governments. Specifically, U.S. PVOs (look it up) totaled more than the governments of Japan, the United Kingdom, Germany and France each. Finally, these figures do not include the monetary value of private and voluntary contributions of time and energy by U.S. citizens in the developing world. From personal observation, for example, most of the medical care provided to the Congolese (DR) population outside the capital comes from mostly U.S. funded and staffed secular and religious missions. Europeans are some of the most materialistic people on earth. They love to contribute other people's tax money and dump on the U.S. by using manufactured statistics. BTW the infant mortality "problem" is entirely due to the differences among countries of defining "live birth" and the polyglot, and immigrant, nature of the U.S. population. Is Japan importing a lot of health care problems in its immigrant population? Ha! Lies, damn lies, and statistics; the definition of leftist politics.

Since: Nov 08

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#1086 Jun 23, 2009
libs are scared wrote:
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That must be why everyone is moving to India, China and the communist and socialist countries. They are so much better off than we are!
You are the only one talking about communist countries. You conservatives can't make it through a day without trying to drag the corpse of Stalin up.

Since: Nov 08

Cologne- Germany

#1087 Jun 23, 2009
"The anti-values of greed, individualism and exclusion should be replaced by solidarity, common good and inclusion. The objective of our economic and social activity should not be the limitless, endless, mindless accumulation of wealth in a profit-centred economy but rather a people-centred economy that guarantees human needs, human rights, and human security, as well as conserves life on earth. These should be universal values that underpin our ethical and moral responsibility."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/...
Johnny

Seattle, WA

#1088 Jun 23, 2009
Don't buy stocks. Start stocking up on food. The banks are shutting down as of late August into September 2009. They are calling it a banking holiday, which does not look good at all.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/bankster-%e2%80%9...

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