Evolution vs. Creation

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#94329 Jun 28, 2013
Aussiebob wrote:
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I somewhat agree and the physiological
Make-up is and forever will continue to change and adapt to the environment & ways of living we subject ourselves to i do believe a highly intelligent hominid as in our direct ancestors co - existed and possibly interbred with many other human species in the end the most adaptable species continued along the path to becoming who and what we are today at the end of the day thats just my opinion everybody is entitled to believe anything they like
You can believe whatever you want. You can believe that blue is made up of yellow and lime polka dots. You would of course be demonstrably wrong.

And you are demonstrably wrong in this belief too.

When someone says that they believe something a person with a skeptical mind asks them why they believe what they believe. Until you show some evidence a simple "I don't believe you" upsets your case. That is why the beliefs of scientists are based upon evidence. We have evidence of when man lived, we have evidence of where man lived. The species overlap at their times of appearances and disappearances generally. There are a few overlapping species. But most follow one line. This is shown by dating the various fossils by various means.

So what evidence do you have?

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#94330 Jun 28, 2013
Aussiebob wrote:
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I somewhat agree and the physiological
Make-up is and forever will continue to change and adapt to the environment & ways of living we subject ourselves to i do believe a highly intelligent hominid as in our direct ancestors co - existed and possibly interbred with many other human species in the end the most adaptable species continued along the path to becoming who and what we are today at the end of the day thats just my opinion everybody is entitled to believe anything they like
If brain case size is any indication of intelligence then human intelligence has most definitely increased over the last quarter of a million years. However using that rule we are at least 10% less intelligent than Cro-magnon man

Interbred, probably, up to 4% of your DNA is Neanderthal

“Don't be mad at me.”

Since: Jan 11

I'm just a little bunny.

#94331 Jun 28, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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1. It is a public forum. I came out of curiosity.
2. I know as much if not more than you. That is easy to do.
3. Your biggest contribution to this forum is to be a hypocrite.
4. Your biggest contribution to society is to be a drain on taxpayers but you think we owe you that because you are mentally ill.
5. You have a drawer full of dirty socks that you use to please yourself. EWWW! Your sick dude!
6. Repeatedly lie about yourself, what you are about and lie completely to fool the crowd in the room.
7. Like Dan kicked your arse and you became so obsessed with him you even made your name after him to stalk and harass him.
8. Well that is more than enough to show who you really are. Just a sad lying hypocritical person with no life.
Thanks for another example of how you copy the original work of others. Throwing in lies doesn't count, but it sure is funny. Came here out of curiousity. Hilarious! The fact that you publicized my presence here on other forums then immediately began following me around on these threads shows the truth.

You really like to think you are better than other people, but your actions have proven that not to be true. You are simple, easy to read and over estimate your abilities. Don't just take my word for it, ask everyone.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#94332 Jun 28, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Ron Wyatt fan, huh? That figures.
Wait, wait, I had something...

Hah.

"Arguments that should never be used:

Moon dust thickness proves a young moon.

The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics began at the Fall.(If so, how could Adam and Eve have eaten and digested their food that they were told to eat before the Fall?)

NASA computers, in calculating the positions of planets, found a missing day and 40 minutes, proving Joshua’s “long day”(Joshua 10) and Hezekiah’s sundial movement (2 Kings 20).

There are no beneficial mutations.

Darwin recanted on his deathbed.

Woolly mammoths were flash frozen during the Flood catastrophe.

If we evolved from apes, apes shouldn’t exist today.(In an evolutionary worldview, mankind did not evolve from apes but from an apelike ancestor, from which both humans and apes of today supposedly evolved.)

No new species have been produced.

RON WYATT HAS FOUND MUCH ARCHEOLOGICAL PROOF OF THE BIBLE.(Emphasis mine.)"

That's from Answers in Genesis, "Arguments Creationists Should Avoid".

http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/t...
HTS

Sidney, MT

#94333 Jun 28, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
Really this debate should be history. Most people believe in both, not one or the her. Proving fundamentalist Christians wrong does not prove there was no creator, nor does proving evolution. The fact you've kicked this stone around for so long proves you are not ready to move on I find it strange this is the piece of the past you choiced to stay in.
Bob, you've got to realize that this forum has been inundated with atheist stooges who are not the slightest bit interested in science or in the acquisition of knowledge. They are bent only on promoting their amoral worldview. The level of BS that has been spewed by these ignorant DarwinBots on this forum is becoming legendary.
Patriot

Antioch, TN

#94334 Jun 28, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Were *YOU* there? No? Bummer. I'll rely on the evidence, thank you very much.
I have the inspired written account to base my argument that the events happened, what have you to base your claim that it did not happen upon?
Patriot

Antioch, TN

#94335 Jun 28, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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So some chariot parts underwater are more likely to be evidence of magical suspension of the laws of physics and probably not a boat carrying chariots that sank? You're dumber than I thought.
Well okay, you're not really dumber than I thought...
Funny thing, there was no sunken boat/vessel found with the chariot parts.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#94336 Jun 28, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>Funny thing, there was no sunken boat/vessel found with the chariot parts.
Check the "Answers in Genesis" bit I just posted.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#94337 Jun 28, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>Funny thing, there was no sunken boat/vessel found with the chariot parts.
Funny thing, there was no chariot parts found with the chariot parts.
Elohim

Branford, CT

#94338 Jun 28, 2013
HTS wrote:
<quoted text>Bob, you've got to realize that this forum has been inundated with atheist stooges who are not the slightest bit interested in science or in the acquisition of knowledge. They are bent only on promoting their amoral worldview. The level of BS that has been spewed by these ignorant DarwinBots on this forum is becoming legendary.
HAHAHAHAH!!! Thank you for starting my day with a laugh Mr. Phony Doctor!!

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#94339 Jun 28, 2013
HTS wrote:
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Homology has been soundly debunked. Deal with it.
I think you have a general misunderstanding of the word 'debunked'. You obviously think it means 'not understood by me'. That would be the only circumstance in which I could agree with your statement.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#94340 Jun 28, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>Funny thing, there was no sunken boat/vessel found with the chariot parts.
What chariot parts? You have not linked any evidence?

Did you watch the video that I linked where it told why Ron Wyatt is full of crap?

Did you see that even Answers in Genesis, a creationist site, said that Ron Wyatt is full of crap?

“A belief is formed personally.”

Since: Jun 13

Not forced.

#94341 Jun 28, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Why do you assume that because something is meaningless to you that it is meaningless to anyone else?
And you accuse people in a derogatory way of getting satisfaction from arguing while you yourself are arguing your point. So hypocritical.
So to enlighten you, so many people do it because they are not willing to roll over at your whim and accept your BS.
If HTS believes in God does his believe affect your life? If so how? If not then what does it matter what he believes?

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#94342 Jun 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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What chariot parts? You have not linked any evidence?
Did you watch the video that I linked where it told why Ron Wyatt is full of crap?
Did you see that even Answers in Genesis, a creationist site, said that Ron Wyatt is full of crap?
I may be wrong SZ, but I think Patriot was agreeing with you.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#94343 Jun 28, 2013
JM_Brazil wrote:
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I may be wrong SZ, but I think Patriot was agreeing with you.
I must have missed that. I did not see his response to the video I showed debunking his original claim.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#94344 Jun 28, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>Funny thing, there was no sunken boat/vessel found with the chariot parts.
I had to quote this again and it seems that he was not agreeing with me.

My video did not identify the parts. It showed why it is highly dubious that they were chariot parts.

It seems that Patriot still thinks chariot parts were found.

Here is the video again:



You can skip ahead to 3:00 if you like. He lists a whole series of reasons it is not a chariot wheel and includes the fact that Ron Wyatt did not have some sort of ranging rod or other object for scale in his photos. When the size of an object is important a scientist always includes some sort of object that lets us know the size of the object, whether it is an archaeologist's ranging rod, a geologists rock pick, or even a man made scale on a photograph. There must be something to show the size of an object if you want to claim it is some specific object.

What if there was a ranging rod of some sort that showed those "wheels" to have a diameter of only 20 cm, would anyone still claim that they are "chariot wheels"?

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#94345 Jun 28, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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The multiple lines of evidence and physical proof that is denied by funnymentalist creatards, in favour of the mythical stories of bronze age goat herders and escaped slaves has a considerable amount to say.
You don’t like the topic of the thread then you know what to do, you have a choice to make
Yes, I could start such a tread, but because it won't gather the attention of the sort that beat horses until the odor of glue is every where, wouldn't respond. This topic as presented was yesterday's news over 10 years ago. Has the sand of time became so quick we now have people against moving on. I do have more respect for those that wish to keep the stories of the past. Just as you record Darwin. You too are stuck in the past but just not as long ago. And you are also fundamentalist.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#94346 Jun 28, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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All you are doing is asserting that you know nothing of what you believe.
So you cannot demonstrate a boundary between "macro" and "micro." That was easy.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#94347 Jun 28, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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Yes, I could start such a tread, but because it won't gather the attention of the sort that beat horses until the odor of glue is every where, wouldn't respond. This topic as presented was yesterday's news over 10 years ago. Has the sand of time became so quick we now have people against moving on. I do have more respect for those that wish to keep the stories of the past. Just as you record Darwin. You too are stuck in the past but just not as long ago. And you are also fundamentalist.
Wrong. If Darwin could be shown to be wrong with evidence we would gladly accept that. Sadly for your side all evidence supports his theory to date. It shows that we have no fear in Darwin being wrong since we constantly ask for evidence. If you want to say that we are fundamental about anything it would be evidence, not individuals.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Since: Apr 08

Indianapolis, IN

#94348 Jun 28, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>I have the inspired written account to base my argument that the events happened, what have you to base your claim that it did not happen upon?
Reality. I highly recommend it.

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