Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 168912 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#75355 Feb 11, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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PAA
your down to name calling this early in the evening? so sad..

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#75356 Feb 11, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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" I have not lied here once. "
LOL
How's your pinky doing? LOL
just fine. give an example of me lying.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#75357 Feb 11, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Then you are narrow minded. If that according to you is true, people would have lost/ lose interest in the faith, but to no avail.
There are miracles performed daily in the name of God and i am a testimony to that, amen.
Sorry Charlie, but there is no truth to prayer. You, and all the Christians in the world are just deluding yourselves. If prayer actually worked, every person in the world would be Christian and our world would be totally different.

You are living in a dream world if you actually believe a God answers your (or anyone's) prayer.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#75358 Feb 11, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Sorry Charlie, but there is no truth to prayer. You, and all the Christians in the world are just deluding yourselves. If prayer actually worked, every person in the world would be Christian and our world would be totally different.
You are living in a dream world if you actually believe a God answers your (or anyone's) prayer.
don't know if you saw this earlier...

http://xkcd.com/808/

if religion did what it said it does, it would be the hit you described. yet it still has to compete with all the other cults. it has to change the word of its god to remain relevant to society lest it be overtaken by the other cults.

funny stuff!

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#75359 Feb 11, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Still waiting on your proof of no God.
You can't proof a negative.
Bt the way you phrase it.
No god=no god.
Now the onus is on you to proof that this is true or false.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#75360 Feb 11, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Still waiting on your proof of no God.
Still waiting for ANY real evidence FOR a God.

Been looking for over 50 years now....

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#75361 Feb 11, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>don't know if you saw this earlier...
http://xkcd.com/808/
if religion did what it said it does, it would be the hit you described. yet it still has to compete with all the other cults. it has to change the word of its god to remain relevant to society lest it be overtaken by the other cults.
funny stuff!
Hello woodtick57. Yes I did see the cartoon and as usual it was right on. It always amazes me how the author of xkcd is able to boil down to just a few words something I have been trying to vocalize for months.

Yes, the apologists for Christianity are constantly reviewing and changing their understanding of the Bible so they can keep themselves and their dogma currant.

I am anxiously awaiting their apologia of the loss of the Adam and Eve story and not having someone to pin 'Original Sin' on. Whatever will Jesus do now??.:-)

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#75362 Feb 11, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>don't know if you saw this earlier...
http://xkcd.com/808/
if religion did what it said it does, it would be the hit you described. yet it still has to compete with all the other cults. it has to change the word of its god to remain relevant to society lest it be overtaken by the other cults.
funny stuff!
The truth is...is if it didn't work, it would have been given up along long time ago...

Is every prayer answered?...no...why? Because if every prayer was answered it would become mundane, deteriorating into mere wishes for such things as money and power.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#75363 Feb 11, 2013
neutral observer wrote:
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There are probably more gods in Christianity than in Hinduism.
Its a good thing they are ALL phony.

Since: Apr 12

Taizhou, China

#75364 Feb 11, 2013
Langoliers, who appointed you as editor and proofreader on this thread?
bohart

Newport, TN

#75365 Feb 11, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Still waiting for ANY real evidence FOR a God.
Been looking for over 50 years now....
Some people can read War and Peace and come away with nothing, others can read a gum wrapper and unlock the secret of the universe.

Lex Luthor

you seem to be the first

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#75366 Feb 11, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Some people can read War and Peace and come away with nothing, others can read a gum wrapper and unlock the secret of the universe.
Lex Luthor
you seem to be the first
bohart, it is always up to the person making the positive claim to provide evidence for their claim.

So it is up to you to provide evidence for the existence of god if you want to claim that.

To be fair we have to provide evidence for evolution if challenged. Of course that does not mean that you can deny our evidence. There is a definition of scientific definition which is used for scientific debates. Using that definition there are mountains of evidence that support evolution.

I don't know what type of evidence you would use to support the existence of god.

“Putten the SIN ”

Since: Nov 08

back in Wisconsin

#75367 Feb 11, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
The truth is...is if it didn't work, it would have been given up along long time ago...
Nice try. Human beings are very good at deluding themselves and backward rationalizing when there wrong. Fact is prayer like god is indistinguishable from when it works and from when it doesn't. Sorry but be don't see massive documentation for when it works.

When it supposably does work its usually either laziness on the persons part, like when someones cancer goes away for no known reason, there to lazy to look for a more plausible alternate explanation, or *any* other explanation. But seeing as they have a vested interest towards there wishful thing that's understandable.

Or its the payer got answered, but in a very round about sort of way. Ie: backward rationalizing. "well I wanted A, but I got c.5...it works!!!"

But the greatest part,(and you demonstrated this in your post) the fail safe you install yourselves for when it doesn't work is...
xxxooxxx wrote:
Is every prayer answered?...no...why? Because if every prayer was answered it would become mundane, deteriorating into mere wishes for such things as money and power.
Oh the convenience!!
See this way yall can keep lying to your selves and never be the wiser.

"did your payer work??.

Naw, Shiva works when she wants to."

See if payer worked, or er didn't, at least the god in question could have his Secretary send a "denial of application" paper in the mail to show when it didn't work. Plus it would give us metric to gauge prayer from when it works and when it doesn't.

Sorry but payer is nothing more then "mere wishes".

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#75368 Feb 12, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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I say this because God encoded DNA for all intelligent life in his lab, the planets in the universe, where elements were also created. He's not only a Scientist but also a Mathematician, Artist, Architect, and all that.
You are right, atheistic evolution hinders the progress of real science because life could not have started by natural processes on its own. They believe in MUTATION. I believe in PERMUTATION.
I also think there is intelligent life in other planets or galaxies.
Um, most of the elements in the universe are the result, not "created" at all, of the massive chemical reactions we call stars.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#75369 Feb 12, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Your rants will never change what/ who God almighty. You are going to end up like others as manure in the soil.
Just because what I say causes you some deep concern does not make it a rant, it just means it shakes your foundations

Nope I’m going to get burnt, I will be dust and ash, still I will fertilise the next life and the next and the next until there is no more life to fertilise.

Tell me, what do you think soil is made of? FYI, the organic component is old life, which includes almost 2000 years of dead christians.

Tell me to you think those above you in the religious hierarchy know something that you don’t. After all during the burial ceremony the minister quotes “ashes to ashes, dust to dust”

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#75370 Feb 12, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> The difference is clear.
Find out the difference between "god", and , " God".
The difference is not clear, the difference is that you choose a particular delusion

No difference other than the English convention of capitalising nouns – aww come on you claim so much for the English language. If one god deserves a capital letter then they all do but if you claim no god but your own god deserves a capital then you are discrediting the English language. Personally I believe that no god deserves a capital, it’s a made up concept, your particular god belief was made up in the bronze age, probably from the beliefs of the Egyptian pharaoh Akhenaten worship of the sun.

FYI the word god was not even invented until the 6th century Christian Codex Argenteus was written it stems from the proto German root gudan.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#75371 Feb 12, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Humans are nothing before the creator or the almighty.
Get that!
In the vastness of the universe the entire milky way galaxy hardly registers among the billions of galaxies so one lump of rock circling one of the billions of stars in that mote of a galaxy is nothing. On the universal scale humans are smaller than atoms compared to earth.

Let me put it into proportion for you.

On this lump of rock we call earth humans are the (allegedly) most intelligent of around 8,7 million animal species - nothing
Or
There are myriad more suns in the billions of galaxies in this universe than there are grains of sand on every beach on earth - nothing
Or
Take all the space out of all the atoms of all the 7 billion people on earth and you wind up with an ultra dense object about the size of a sugar cube - nothing

So you are correct, albeit for the wrong reason, humans are nothing - Get that?

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#75372 Feb 12, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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That's not a law it's a theory and a failed theory at that. GR has been a proven failure in regards to Singularity's.
A theory that does not work everywhere in the universe needs to be modified.
E=MC^2 is NOT a failed theory, nor a law, it’s an equation that has NEVER been disproven. Even the recent jubilation at CERN in which it was thought the equation did not account for neutrino loopholes was proven to be a technical error.

It was never designed to encompass the infinities of singularities, it is an equation for the atomic domain, the domain the atomic universe exists in.

There are similar equations for the quantum domain and until recently the two could never meet because of the infinities of those singularities

The mathematics of Dr Param Singh handles the infinities of both the atomic and quantum realms and ties them together in a way that allows scientists to think and work path those infinities to places they were unable to comprehend 2 years ago.

Please keep up if you want to attempt to discredit evidence.

But it appears that what you want is a piece of magic that works everywhere and every when and you believe no such magic exists so come to the obvious conclusion of the bronze age the hard of thinking and shout “GODDIDIT”

Let me assure you, science is working on such a unified theory and if/when there is a breakthrough the whole world will hear.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#75373 Feb 12, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> So, answer the question, what brought the universe into form?
You answer it

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#75374 Feb 12, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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So you approve of satanists, but disapprove of christianity.
Interesting.
The day they start trying to fashion laws that govern everybody based on their beliefs... or attempt to have their dogma taught as fact in public school science classes... or persecute certain members of the population because they see them as abominations, why should we care what they do?

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