Evolution vs. Creation

15th Dalai Lama wrote:

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Gibberish. You don't even have a church or a denomination, do you?
To date, no fundie has come forward with an explanation of John 3:8
though they wear that born again label proudly.

Wake Up wrote:

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Ouy usmt eallyr eb mtsar fi uoy acn daer hist.

The Dude wrote:

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You didn't challenge, you just said "OH NO IT ISN'T!"
Kinda like HTS too really, except he's just much more long-winded about it. He likes to get the emotional pain off his chest.

TedHOhio wrote:

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No, I asked you to define complexity! You made the claim of complexity, but like all creationists, you never seem to get around to defining your terms. How can you claim nature cannot produce complexity if you cannot define complexity.
I know why you refuse to define it, because once you go on record wiht any definition, once one item in nature is found to be as complex, or even more complex, your whole concept goes out the window. So you like to bandy around terms, but the reality is -- without a definition of complexity, you cannot make the claim that nature cannot produce complexity.
Keep pedaling on that stationary bike.
And as for your last little part, you are lying. Evolution is not analogous to a monkey sitting in front of a typewriter or a tornado tearing through a junkyard. I have said that before, you just keep ignoring it becuase it would require you to read something for comprehension.
The reason, once again, is because your analogy fails to include anything taking the part of Natural Selection!
Here is a better analogy. You stand behind your monkey on the key board and every time he writes a word that appears in a Shakespearian play, you rip the paper out of the typewriter and insert a new one.
Now, with you playing something slightly closer to Natural Selection, you are closer, just a little bit closer, it's still just an analogy, but slightly better than yours
Of course like any analogy, it fails on many levels, I am sure you will nit-pic one of them and try and browbeat me some more. I'll just be sitting here laughing at you standing behind the monkey trying to recognize Shakespeare. You can ask a 6th grader for help, they usually have read one of two of his plays by that time.

KittenKoder wrote:

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That's rich, so what would you call making a complex organism from dirt without evolutionary steps?

Wake Up wrote:

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I dont expect you can understand without the Holy Spirit...you try as you might...the Bible is not just a book that you read. The Bible is the Word of God. John1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

15th Dalai Lama wrote:

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Threatening the Dude with your superstition is breathtakingly inane.
'I'm not threatening you, Biblegod is' is perhaps the most chickenshit fundie strategy I've seen.

15th Dalai Lama wrote:

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If you can't explain what John 3:8 means you don't even know what Holy Spirit means.
I have no use for illiterate clodhoppers from Cabbageville telling me what I understand and don't understand.

Wake Up wrote:

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I am non-denominational. John 3: 8 Jesus is basically explaining that when you are baptized you receive the Holy Spirit..and the Holy Spirit, although it can not be seen like wind can be heard. You can hear the Holy Spirit guiding you in life and it is through the Holy Spirit that the truth becomes clear. Although you can not see it once you are baptized youwill be guided by it and shown the answers to the questions you seek.

15th Dalai Lama wrote:

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If you can't explain what John 3:8 means you don't even know what Holy Spirit means.
I have no use for illiterate clodhoppers from Cabbageville telling me what I understand and don't understand.

Wake Up wrote:

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I know exactly what the Holy Spirit is. The Holy Spirit lives in me and guides me to do the will of God. The Holy Spirit leads me throughout my life and helps me discern lies from truth. The Holy Spirit guides me to make the right decisions and shows me which paths will lead me to the plans God has for my life. The Holy Spirit brings people and events into my life that will help me fulfill my purpose on Earth. The Holy Spirit protects me and opens my eyes to the deception of Satans lies.

15th Dalai Lama wrote:

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You can ignore this. Just don't be telling my what I understand and don't understand.
You are of course free to now embark upon an anti-Catolic rant.
I've heard them all.

Wake Up wrote:

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I am not threatening anyone...I am not trying to convert you. I am not superstitious at all. I do not believe in superstitions. I am not judging anyone. I am merely saying what the Bible says about those who have heard the word and do refuse its truth. If you feel threatened...then that is your problem. Maybe that should tell you something.

The Dude wrote:

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No detail in the Bible eh? So what you're saying is that the Bible is as useless as a rubber crutch?
Thought so.

Wake Up wrote:

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I did not ignore this I explained it two pages ago...keep up igore.

15th Dalai Lama wrote:

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You're threatening him with Biblegod and that is chickenshit. You should be able to rise above that with the Holy Spirit residing in you and stuff.
If you hope to convert an atheist starting with I'm right on account of my magic decoder ring and you're wrong can't be expected to gain much traction. It kind of makes it look like you got nothin'.
Let me give it a try.

Charles Idemi wrote:

<quoted text>Good day Brother, words, languages are formed daily, yearly, not by apes but by humans...

The Dude wrote:

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Actually evolution has been validated by science. I've given you that information many times but you've been unable to address it. That's not our problem.

Aura Mytha wrote:

<quoted text> By human you mean the hairless ape.