Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 201752 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#36187 Jul 31, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Been where you are at.
I've been where YOU are at. I was a Christian for 41 years before I woke up and grew up. When will YOU?
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> (GILLETTE ... "Truth and morality are SUBJECTIVE things.")
Is that true? If it is true then it self refutes.
No it doesn't. That's my OPINION, that all truth and morality are subjective. That's my subjective view of how it looks. We ALL have a subjective view.

PROVE any kind of "objective morality" exists.
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> What was true and moral for Hitler is not the same as what was true and moral for Ghandi. Both are equally valid by your definition.
Yes, they are valid to THOSE people, in their minds.

People have different sense of morality. That seems really obvious. And it backs the idea that morality is SUBJECTIVE, not absolute.
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> There is no reason to help the weak if non theistic evolution is true. There is no reason to accept our sense of right and wrong as nothing more than activity in the brain. Like everything else, Brain exhaust.
Utter nonsense.

I can have a subjective sense of what I think is right and moral and act by it without in ANY way subscribing to any theistic beliefs or idea of a God.

Since: May 08

EVERYWHERE

#36188 Jul 31, 2012
After one reads Romans 1:18-32, we can easily see just how relevant the Bible is for today and how it's not an accident that god-haters, socialists, atheists, secular humanists, pagans,--and all those (whether religious or non-religious) people who LIVE LIKE there's no Holy God that they're accountable to, eventually will accept the sin of homosexuality as their personal death-style. In this case, the lust for perversion and homosexuality comes before their adoption of Atheism.

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,

19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man--and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.

27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men (HOMOSEXUALITY) committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge (ATHEISM), God gave them over to a DEBASED MIND, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

In all the Atheist's efforts to attack the God of the God and insult his Holy Spirit. They end up unwittingly confirming God's word is true as they must suppress the Knowledge that they all ready have.

The Psychology of Atheism
http://cross.tv/84577

Doubt Atheism
http://evolutionfacts.blogspot.com

.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#36189 Jul 31, 2012
PROFESSOR X wrote:
After one reads Romans 1:18-32, we can easily see just how relevant the Bible is for today
Apparently not that relevant since you constantly ignore the 9th Commandment which states DO NOT LIE. The only rational conclusion is that you're a God-hater who doesn't really believe what he's saying anyway, as all you've done is present lies and ad-hom and totally EPICALLY FAILED to demonstrate your position for 12 months.

Till next time, fake Prof.
Elohim

Branford, CT

#36190 Jul 31, 2012
PROFESSOR X wrote:
After one reads Romans 1:18-32, we can easily see just how relevant the Bible is for today and how it's not an accident that god-haters, socialists, atheists, secular humanists, pagans,--and all those (whether religious or non-religious) people who LIVE LIKE there's no Holy God that they're accountable to, eventually will accept the sin of homosexuality as their personal death-style. In this case, the lust for perversion and homosexuality comes before their adoption of Atheism.
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man--and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men (HOMOSEXUALITY) committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge (ATHEISM), God gave them over to a DEBASED MIND, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.
In all the Atheist's efforts to attack the God of the God and insult his Holy Spirit. They end up unwittingly confirming God's word is true as they must suppress the Knowledge that they all ready have.
The Psychology of Atheism
http://cross.tv/84577
Doubt Atheism
http://evolutionfacts.blogspot.com
.
Wrong. You follow a false blasphemous creed. There is only 1 true God and He is Bob. The Stark Fist of Removal will be upon you!!

http://www.subgenius.com/index.htm

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#36191 Jul 31, 2012
Hey mates

Posted this on the other thread.

This is too effing good not to share:

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“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#36192 Jul 31, 2012
Just click the link. It works
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#36193 Jul 31, 2012
PROFESSOR X wrote:
After one reads Romans 1:18-32, we can easily see just how relevant the Bible is for today and how it's not an accident that god-haters, socialists, atheists, secular humanists, pagans,--and all those (whether religious or non-religious) people who LIVE LIKE there's no Holy God that they're accountable to, eventually will accept the sin of homosexuality as their personal death-style. In this case, the lust for perversion and homosexuality comes before their adoption of Atheism.
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man--and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men (HOMOSEXUALITY) committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge (ATHEISM), God gave them over to a DEBASED MIND, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.
In all the Atheist's efforts to attack the God of the God and insult his Holy Spirit. They end up unwittingly confirming God's word is true as they must suppress the Knowledge that they all ready have.
.
Refers to people who were engaging in ritual pagan temple prostitution.

Not to be used (along with any other "scripture") as a general club with which to attack everyone you hate today.

Unless you are a degenerate, dishonest Christian creep.

Are you, fake "Professor X"?
lightbeamrider

Fargo, ND

#36194 Jul 31, 2012
Thomas Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree.
Also, either the resurrection of Mithra happened or it did not.
Either the resurrection of Orisis happened or it did not.
Either the resurrection of Gilgamish happened or it did not.
Is this enough common ground for a logical discussion?
Osiris was cut up into pieces and reassembled by his sister/wife. Penis last. He then got her pregnant. No virgin birth. Folks ignore the differences which is sloppy. Are you sure you wnat to go there? It is not like i have not dealt with this before. The accounts of Christ are taken seriuosly by serious historians. I don't know any serious historian who takes Osiris myth seriously. If i am mistaaken then state who they are along with their credientials.

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#36196 Jul 31, 2012
I'm thinking that there is more evidence for creation than people here readily admit.
Elohim

Branford, CT

#36197 Jul 31, 2012
kenn hohmen wrote:
homosexuality comes before their adoption of Atheism.
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that a
Wrong blasphemer! Bob is the way!
bohart

White Pine, TN

#36198 Jul 31, 2012
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Apparently not that relevant since you constantly ignore the 9th Commandment which states DO NOT LIE. The only rational conclusion is that you're a God-hater who doesn't really believe what he's saying anyway, as all you've done is present lies and ad-hom and totally EPICALLY FAILED to demonstrate your position for 12 months.
Till next time, fake Prof.
Professing to be wise they become fools......the Dude and his bretheren,ha,ha,ha,ha,

What was it you said earlier, the definition of life is arbitrary,..ha,ha,ha, your not becoming a fool you're there! a complete fool!

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#36199 Jul 31, 2012
BlondePrince wrote:
There is also proof of creation but not a lot is known about that either. Things don't come from nothing unless by supernatural thus; a God created all things including Evolution
How do you know that it is impossible for something to come from nothing except by supernatural means? Where did "God" come from?

You might want to read the recent book by Jim Holt entitled "Why Does the World Exist?: An Existential Detective Story". There are other possibilities beyond a "god".
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#36200 Jul 31, 2012
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Professing to be wise they become fools......the Dude and his bretheren,ha,ha,ha,ha,
What was it you said earlier, the definition of life is arbitrary,..ha,ha,ha, your not becoming a fool you're there! a complete fool!
Actually, we could club you Jesus Freaks right over the head with your own verse from the (supposed) "Word of God."

Professing yourselves to be wise about science and evolution, you become f-ing idiots in full view of the public reading along here -- and all in the name of your Jesus. LOL!

If you REALLY thought ti was the "Word of God," you wouldn't use it in this way, I suspect. You would use it more respectfully.
Maxwell_Chaps

Gurnee, IL

#36201 Jul 31, 2012
PROFESSOR X wrote:
After one reads Romans 1:18-32, we can easily see just how relevant the Bible is for today and how it's not an accident that god-haters, socialists, atheists, secular humanists, pagans,--and all those (whether religious or non-religious) people who LIVE LIKE there's no Holy God that they're accountable to, eventually will accept the sin of homosexuality as their personal death-style. In this case, the lust for perversion and homosexuality comes before their adoption of Atheism.
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man--and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men (HOMOSEXUALITY) committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge (ATHEISM), God gave them over to a DEBASED MIND, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.
In all the Atheist's efforts to attack the God of the God and insult his Holy Spirit. They end up unwittingly confirming God's word is true as they must suppress the Knowledge that they all ready have.

The Psychology of Atheism
http://cross.tv/84577

Doubt Atheism
http://evolutionfacts.blogspot.com
.
You're absolutely right ProfessorX!

I know four guys in my area who are Atheist and act out disgusting homo stuff all the time. One of the guys told me that they both were molested by men when they were young and were introduced to looking at nasty images of men until they were turned out in their teens. I betcha that homosexuals for the most part were victims of sexual abuse. And atheists would be more likely to experiment with the depraved behavior since they hate being accountable to God who created humans male and female!

.
bohart

White Pine, TN

#36202 Jul 31, 2012
Gillette wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, we could club you Jesus Freaks right over the head with your own verse from the (supposed) "Word of God."
Professing yourselves to be wise about science and evolution, you become f-ing idiots in full view of the public reading along here -- and all in the name of your Jesus. LOL!
If you REALLY thought ti was the "Word of God," you wouldn't use it in this way, I suspect. You would use it more respectfully.
Hang in there, you may overtake Dude as the leader of the fools, ha,ha,.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#36203 Jul 31, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Osiris was cut up into pieces and reassembled by his sister/wife. Penis last. He then got her pregnant. No virgin birth. Folks ignore the differences which is sloppy.
Yes, and quite obviously after being chopped up to pieces and using an artificial non-biological phallus, pregnancy was BOUND to happen.
lightbeamrider wrote:
Are you sure you wnat to go there? It is not like i have not dealt with this before.
No, we really don't wanna go there. Your kinks are your own, let's keep 'em that way, huh?
lightbeamrider wrote:
The accounts of Christ are taken seriuosly by serious historians.
Srsly!
lightbeamrider wrote:
I don't know any serious historian who takes Osiris myth seriously.
Srsly?
lightbeamrider wrote:
If i am mistaaken then state who they are along with their credientials.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pharaohs

As you can see there were quite a few.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#36204 Jul 31, 2012
kenn hohmen wrote:
homosexuality comes before their adoption of Atheism.
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that a
Of course anyone who claims invisible things are clearly seen should always be taken seriously.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#36205 Jul 31, 2012
Knightmare wrote:
I'm thinking that there is more evidence for creation than people here readily admit.
Absolutely! You have it all, you just don't admit it!
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#36206 Jul 31, 2012
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Professing to be wise they become fools......the Dude and his bretheren,ha,ha,ha,ha,
What was it you said earlier, the definition of life is arbitrary,..ha,ha,ha, your not becoming a fool you're there! a complete fool!
So in other words:

http://images.wikia.com/simpsons/images/4/40/...

(shrug)
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#36207 Jul 31, 2012
Maxwell_Chaps wrote:
<quoted text>
You're absolutely right ProfessorX!
I know four guys in my area who are Atheist and act out disgusting homo stuff all the time. One of the guys told me that they both were molested by men when they were young and were introduced to looking at nasty images of men until they were turned out in their teens. I betcha that homosexuals for the most part were victims of sexual abuse. And atheists would be more likely to experiment with the depraved behavior since they hate being accountable to God who created humans male and female!
Sounds like the met a priest.(shrug)

TED HAGGARD, FTW!!!

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