Who Should Own '.Patagonia?'

Who Should Own '.Patagonia?'

There are 480 comments on the The Atlantic story from Apr 23, 2013, titled Who Should Own '.Patagonia?'. In it, The Atlantic reports that:

Argentina's "territory" is under threat -- both physically and virtually -- according to its president, Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner.

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Malvi

Tucuman, Argentina

#401 Nov 19, 2013
Preguntale, porqué UK no los elige a estos mamertos para que esgriman sus argumentos en los foros internacionales, porque, parece que sus "expertos" son unos ineptos, desde 1965 no les creen la versión de UK.

Da gracia leerlos porque tienen dos tipos de argumentos, los que vienen exponiendo sus "expertos" desde 1965 y hasta el momento nadie les han dado la razón y el otro argumento basura, de descarte que sus expertos no se animan a usarlo en donde deben hacerlo, los únicos que los usan son estos mamertos y en sus foritos privados de morondanga para engañar a usuarios ignorantes.

Los kelpers no saben si creerles a sus "expertos" o a estos mamertos.
Luis Vernet

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#402 Nov 19, 2013
Terry Hill wrote:
<quoted text>Nobody is bragging, I'm simply responding to your fellow nationals continued threats of violence, in showing that such aggression would bring about a certain measured response. Hong Kong was leased from the Chinese government, when the lease was over HC was returned to it's owner as was previously agreed, no mess no fuss. That's how the civilized world conducts itself, maybe you could learn... on second thoughts, no you couldn't your to dishonest.
¡Mentíra, Falzo Leguleyo Asesíno!
La Prostitúta de Hierro, amagó con nó cumplir con lo pactádo al decir que "el Presidente de China no pensará que la coróna Piráta(Británica)se desprenderá de Hong Kong así como así"; Comentario que obligó a responder al Presidente de China que:"si no se cumple con la fecha pactáda para la restitución de los territórios invadídos, usurpádos y anexádos por la fuerza, inundarémos de soldádos la plaza en 24hs.", ni los EEUU. se animáron a ir en contra de China de ahí que uds. recularon como los cobárdes y crimináles que són.
¡Falzo Leguléyo, asesíno!
Gracias.
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.
Luis Vernet

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#403 Nov 19, 2013
Deanstreet wrote:
<quoted text>
I always believed you were insane..
No se porqué, Don Calle Dean, fijáte que el insáno que propóne que Piratalandia(Gran Bretaña)nos atáque con misíles nucleares es el Falzo Leguléyo de Don Benny Hill y no yó.
¡Andá haciendo las valíjas, traidor desagradecído!
Gracias.
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.
Deanstreet

Stanley, Falkland Islands (Malvinas)

#405 Nov 19, 2013
Luis Vernet wrote:
<quoted text>
No se porqué, Don Calle Dean, fijáte que el insáno que propóne que Piratalandia(Gran Bretaña)nos atáque con misíles nucleares es el Falzo Leguléyo de Don Benny Hill y no yó.
¡Andá haciendo las valíjas, traidor desagradecído!
Gracias.
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.
Yes you've done it..!

Proved me correct..
Luis Vernet

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#406 Nov 19, 2013
Deanstreet wrote:
<quoted text>
You certainly push out a lot of utter rubbish and bollocks..
Nuclear Weapons...!
LOL...
IDIOT..!
El que habló de atacárnos con misíles nucleáres fué el Falzo Leguléyo de Don Benny Hill.
Si tenés algo que cacarear al respécto hacélo con el asesíno de tu compádre y con nádie más.
¡Andá haciendo las valíjas, traidor desagradecído!
Gracias.
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.
Luis Vernet

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#407 Nov 19, 2013
MALVINAS ARGENTINAS wrote:
<quoted text>Argentina can have nukes any time......Argentina mastered the complete nuclear cycle,long time ago...
Sí, pero para uso pacífico.
Nosotros no somos armamentístas y asesínos como los Pirátas(Británicos).
Gracias.
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.
Luis Vernet

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#408 Nov 19, 2013
Terry Hill wrote:
<quoted text>They followed the agreement to the letter, just like they are in complete compliance with international law over the islands. It is only Argentina that is not in compliance but is too chicken-shit to do anything about it. Argentina won't be finishing anyone soon with her decrepit military as she couldn't even afford to partake in in South America's largest military air exercise in Brazil.
Nuestro armamento al igual que nuestras estratégias militáres son ultra secrétas, es por eso que no participámos.
No querémos que nuestro enemígo, Piratalandia(Gran Bretaña), este al tanto de los mismos.
¡Falzo Leguléyo, asesíno!
Gracias.
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.
Luis Vernet

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#409 Nov 19, 2013
Terry Hill wrote:
<quoted text>Argentina has no nuclear capability because she has neither the smarts nor the finical capability, which you can add to lack of courage and islands.
¿Falta de coraje, Falzo Leguléyo Asesíno?
Leéte el libro "No Picnic" escrito por uno de los jefes militares que participaron de la re-invasión, re-usurpación y re-anexión por la fuerza de Nuestras Islas Malvinas Argentinas a manos de Piratalandia(Gran Bretaña).
Leyéndolo, Falzo Leguléyo Asesíno, te ilustraría el saber lo que opína un profesional a cerca de nuestro coráje.
¡Falzo Leguléyo, asesíno!
Gracias.
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.
Deanstreet

Stanley, Falkland Islands (Malvinas)

#410 Nov 19, 2013
Luis Vernet wrote:
<quoted text>
Nuestro armamento al igual que nuestras estratégias militáres son ultra secrétas, es por eso que no participámos.
No querémos que nuestro enemígo, Piratalandia(Gran Bretaña), este al tanto de los mismos.
¡Falzo Leguléyo, asesíno!
Gracias.
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.
Definitely 150% nuts...!
Biguggy

Corner Brook, Canada

#411 Nov 19, 2013
Deanstreet wrote:
<quoted text>
Definitely 150% nuts...!
I have to totally disagree with that!
Put it up to 250% and perhaps we can negotiate?
Diego

Tucuman, Argentina

#412 Nov 20, 2013
Malvi wrote:
Da gracia leerlos porque tienen dos tipos de argumentos, los que vienen exponiendo sus "expertos" desde 1965 y hasta el momento nadie les han dado la razón y el otro argumento basura, de descarte que sus expertos no se animan a usarlo en donde deben hacerlo, los únicos que los usan son estos mamertos y en sus foritos privados de morondanga para engañar a usuarios ignorantes.
Los kelpers no saben si creerles a sus "expertos" o a estos mamertos.
Otro punto, en el Reino Unido hay medios británicos que desde hace años les siguen dando la razón a la Argentina. En junio de este año, hasta publicaron una información sobre Malvinas con resultado muy negativo para el Reino Unido, no les daban la razón. Ya es sabido que Londres no tiene nada serio para acabar con el reclamo argentino, lo vienen demostrando desde 1965, y como yapa, los medios británicos ya les dan un consejo al premier Cameron, que no le conviene negarse a dialogar y negocie con la Argentina si quiere tener buenas relaciones con ese país y sus vecinos de la UNASUR, los tiempos han cambiado.

Es para tenerlo en cuenta.

Le guste o no le guste a Cameron a la larga van a tener que negociar con la Argentina. Llegará un día que se hará justicia el caso Malvinas.
Diego

Tucuman, Argentina

#413 Nov 20, 2013
Terry,

Aveces me pregunto si ustedes alguna vez leyeron lo que escribieron los veteranos de guerra ingleses que vivieron en carne propia la guerra.

Porqué se suicidaron más de 400 militares ingleses que participaron en la guerra de Malvinas?

Leiste la carta de David Tinker?? Aquel oficial inglés que murió en la HMS Glamorgan cuando un misil Exocet MM-38 impactó en ese buque de guerra.

Es interesante leer la carta completa que escribió David Tinker antes de morir. Esta está traducida al castellano, pero la podés buscar en inglés:

Querida Christine:

Es muy fácil comprender cómo se ha desatado la guerra: nuestra primera ministra se imaginó que era Churchill desafiando a Hitler, y la Marina la apoyó para obtener publicidad y popularidad rápidamente. Estoy seguro de que de esta destrucción sólo se beneficiarán Mrs. Thatcher y los fabricantes de armas.
Lo que más me apena es que no hay causa para esta guerra, y si somos honestos, los argentinos son mucho más patriotas con respecto a las Malvinas que nosotros con las Falklands. Y lo que la primera ministra no comprende, es que los argentinos creen firmemente que las Malvinas son de ellos.
Han enviado contra nosotros pilotos en misiones suicidas, en viajes sin regreso, porque estamos fuera de su alcance, y eso que ellos no tienen helicópteros de rescate en el mar para recuperar después a los pilotos.
Los pilotos argentinos enfrentan cada día misiles antiaéreos de aplastante superioridad.
Realmente, la valentía de esos hombres demuestra que tienen mucho más que un tibio interés en estas islas.
Considerando la tragedia, la angustia, y el horror de las vidas perdidas, que han sido sacrificadas de buena gana por los políticos para tapar la ineptitud y necedad de su gobierno, considerando además los resultados en dolor, pérdidas económicas y pérdidas de buques para Gran Bretaña, me parece a mí que esta es la guerra más inútil que Gran Bretaña ha hecho en toda su historia.
Espero que todo esto termine pronto… Creo que los argentinos ya han demostrado honorablemente su valentía.

David Tinker a su mujer, durante la guerra de las Malvinas; días después moriría en combate.

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BritBob

Glasgow, UK

#416 Nov 22, 2013
Luis Vernet wrote:
<quoted text>
¿Falta de coraje, Falzo Leguléyo Asesíno?
Leéte el libro "No Picnic" escrito por uno de los jefes militares que participaron de la re-invasión, re-usurpación y re-anexión por la fuerza de Nuestras Islas Malvinas Argentinas a manos de Piratalandia(Gran Bretaña).
Leyéndolo, Falzo Leguléyo Asesíno, te ilustraría el saber lo que opína un profesional a cerca de nuestro coráje.
¡Falzo Leguléyo, asesíno!
Gracias.
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.
Unhealthy fascination with pirates.

Seek medical help ASAP.
JBH

Surrey, Canada

#417 Nov 22, 2013
++++===

Former President George W. Bush says he's "not too worried" about how history will judge his presidency.

"I did the best I could do," Bush told Tonight Show host Jay Leno "I'm also very comfortable with the fact that it's going take a while for history to judge whether the decisions I made are consequential or not. And therefore, I'm not too worried about it."

He said history is still fully assessing the legacies of previous presidents.

"I've read some biographies of Washington," Bush said. "My attitude is if they're still writing biographies of the first guy, the 43rd guy doesn't need to worry about it."

Via Talking Points Memo

++++++====

Regarding the above, it shows there is a president called Bush who lied about war in Iraq and still never gets conscious to the fact it was--he lied.

That shows the defeat of Usa as a liars' nation to its people and the world.
Because there was Bush, then there came Obama to be president from opposing the war of Iraq. Yet, he is another liar, by declaring "Mission Accomplished" in Iraq--which is equal to mission accomplished by killing 5000 US soldiers and trillions of US dollars disposed at Iraq.
there you came with Obama by doing more on Patriot Act started by Bush, snooping and spying on more civilians, and using more drones to kill more innocent people.

The subject of the focal point is who would continue and promote Bush programs. Obviously, it would be Obama because he is doing the same Bush programs on nailing down on North Korea and Iran on nuclear weapons issue as well.
Even Russia's Putin falls into doing as the same Bush clown by telling North Korea to ban nuclear and WMD and on Iran too of the same thing. While Usa stations anti-missile system in Romania, how would Russia talk something about North Korean and Iran for US, as al-qaeda bombed Iran embassy too, besides bombing US embassy in Libya?
Today, people are concerned it seems US is a more dangerous and evil nation than other ones by lying from doing Bush programs continuously even he is gone. It was US which first used atomic bombs to Japan and used military to lie to make war in Iraq and do drones. It is thus ridiculous for such lacking real sense way to talk about others like North Korea and Iran which have not done those of any making wars AND aggression BEFORE, but just want to have nuclear weapons for their defense, while US was not.
The final story is that Usa has been uncovered as a liars' nation with liar presidents time after time, from Bush to Obama with no change--perhaps that was why John F. Kennedy was assassinated.

There you go again--just who would follow what US says, from North Korea, to Iran and now about Phillipine's big typhoon disaster? Because US could not even take care of its people in its Katrina Hurricane syndrome, and in other things,it wants to s show caring of others,that is simply appalling.

AIN'T THAT SO?
Biguggy

Corner Brook, Canada

#418 Nov 22, 2013
JBH wrote:
++++===
Former President George W. Bush says he's "not too worried" about how history will judge his presidency.
"I did the best I could do," Bush told Tonight Show host Jay Leno "I'm also very comfortable with the fact that it's going take a while for history to judge whether the decisions I made are consequential or not. And therefore, I'm not too worried about it."
He said history is still fully assessing the legacies of previous presidents.
"I've read some biographies of Washington," Bush said. "My attitude is if they're still writing biographies of the first guy, the 43rd guy doesn't need to worry about it."
Via Talking Points Memo
++++++====
Regarding the above, it shows there is a president called Bush who lied about war in Iraq and still never gets conscious to the fact it was--he lied.
That shows the defeat of Usa as a liars' nation to its people and the world.
Because there was Bush, then there came Obama to be president from opposing the war of Iraq. Yet, he is another liar, by declaring "Mission Accomplished" in Iraq--which is equal to mission accomplished by killing 5000 US soldiers and trillions of US dollars disposed at Iraq.
there you came with Obama by doing more on Patriot Act started by Bush, snooping and spying on more civilians, and using more drones to kill more innocent people.
The subject of the focal point is who would continue and promote Bush programs. Obviously, it would be Obama because he is doing the same Bush programs on nailing down on North Korea and Iran on nuclear weapons issue as well.
Even Russia's Putin falls into doing as the same Bush clown by telling North Korea to ban nuclear and WMD and on Iran too of the same thing. While Usa stations anti-missile system in Romania, how would Russia talk something about North Korean and Iran for US, as al-qaeda bombed Iran embassy too, besides bombing US embassy in Libya?
Today, people are concerned it seems US is a more dangerous and evil nation than other ones by lying from doing Bush programs continuously even he is gone. It was US which first used atomic bombs to Japan and used military to lie to make war in Iraq and do drones. It is thus ridiculous for such lacking real sense way to talk about others like North Korea and Iran which have not done those of any making wars AND aggression BEFORE, but just want to have nuclear weapons for their defense, while US was not.
The final story is that Usa has been uncovered as a liars' nation with liar presidents time after time, from Bush to Obama with no change--perhaps that was why John F. Kennedy was assassinated.
There you go again--just who would follow what US says, from North Korea, to Iran and now about Phillipine's big typhoon disaster? Because US could not even take care of its people in its Katrina Hurricane syndrome, and in other things,it wants to s show caring of others,that is simply appalling.
AIN'T THAT SO?
And just how truthful is CFK?
Luis Vernet

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#419 Nov 23, 2013
Biguggy wrote:
<quoted text>
And just how truthful is CFK?
Bueno, debe de serlo y mucho para que vos te tómes el trabajo de mencionarla. Se nota que la acción de este gobierno en poz de dificultarle y encarecerle la presencia ilegal de Piratalandia(Gran Bretaña)en nuestro país, te estan incomodándo.
Si así nó fuese, vos no te tomarías el trabajo de pensar en Ella.
Esto fué así, en los 90, cuando el fantóche y traidor que supímos conseguir fué a fotografiarse junto a la Sra.Isabel y mandar a su representánte a repartír, ridículamente, osítos de pelúche a los habitántes ilegáles que pulúlan por Nuestras Islas Malvinas Argentinas.
Gracias.
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.
guggy es UN PELOTUDO

Richmond Hill, Canada

#420 Nov 23, 2013
Biguggy wrote:
<quoted text>
And just how truthful is CFK?
MUch better than maggie,mulroney,and harper together.....
Terry Hill

São Paulo, Brazil

#421 Nov 23, 2013
guggy es UN PELOTUDO wrote:
<quoted text>
MUch better than maggie,mulroney,and harper together.....
Yes her honesty is so renowned that they are writing about it in the Italian press.

Under the heading of “Creative lies from Argentine friends Maradona, Kirchner and false stats”, the Corriere della Sera begins the article in the front page with the IMF ‘declaration of censure’ and enumerates a succession of events including the famous ‘1 dollar equals 1 Peso’ from President Carlos Menem time that led to the massive default of 2001 and heavy losses, among others, to 300.000 Italian pensioners holders of Argentine sovereign bonds: the so called in Italy,‘tango-bonds’.
“Argentine candidates lie to the people, and they know it. They also lie if elected during and after leaving office, and the long tradition of exaggerations, omissions, conspiration and hearsays which always crop up are considered matters of State”, writes Rocco Cotroneo who works for the Italian daily from Brazil.
“It’s as if the whole nation lied before the world. Obviously it is not so and millions of serious, honest and hardworking Argentines are evidence to this; but also suffering as beaten dogs, as has happened these days with the umpteenth foolish incident, this time with the IMF.
“Cristina Kirchner as her husband Nestor, have been cheating with the inflation stats for years, plus the refusal to publish some stats that are key to the economy,‘unconceivable for a democracy’“.
The article then quotes the great Argentine writer Jorge Luis Borges who referring to the Peronists (the largest political movement in Argentina) and the spiritual mentors of Cristina Fernandez said:“they are not good or bad, they are simply incorrigible”.
Biguggy

Corner Brook, Canada

#422 Nov 23, 2013
guggy es UN PELOTUDO wrote:
<quoted text>
MUch better than maggie,mulroney,and harper together.....
Typical troll, deflect, deflect, deflect.
Luis Vernet

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#423 Nov 25, 2013
BritBob wrote:
<quoted text>
Unhealthy fascination with pirates.
Seek medical help ASAP.
Y vós avisále a Di Caprio y al Táno que nó se suban al barco.
Gracias.
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.

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