Who Should Own '.Patagonia?'

Apr 23, 2013 Full story: The Atlantic 480

Argentina's "territory" is under threat -- both physically and virtually -- according to its president, Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner.

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Terry Hill

São Paulo, Brazil

#195 Jul 26, 2013
terry es PUTO wrote:
<quoted text>ROYAL PELOTUDO,anda a KAGAR,HIJO de mil PUT..
Grasp your ears firmly and pull; you might just be able to remove your head from your ass, maricón.
YOU KNOW YOU'RE ITALIAN WHEN...Your uncle valiantly preaches the values of hard work despite the fact that he is earning a healthy income scamming WCB, UIC, CPP and his car insurance company.
Terry Hill

São Paulo, Brazil

#196 Jul 26, 2013
Ricardo wrote:
<quoted text>
The proof is that every Country but the british community only acknowledge the uk DE FACTO administration
And the only option to de facto is de jure
Then, they do not recognize the legality of the uk administation
Moreover, for example, China has stated that the Malvinas should be returned to Argentina, only there you have many billions. And they are not the only Country saying that
The only recognition that would be admissible in any legal determination would be from 1833. All countries at that time accepted British sovereignty, and not one recognized Argentina's spurious claim.
Terry Hill

São Paulo, Brazil

#197 Jul 26, 2013
Ricardo wrote:
<quoted text>
The proof is that every Country but the british community only acknowledge the uk DE FACTO administration
And the only option to de facto is de jure
Then, they do not recognize the legality of the uk administation
Moreover, for example, China has stated that the Malvinas should be returned to Argentina, only there you have many billions. And they are not the only Country saying that
Yet again no proof of anything, just your unqualified opinion.
Luis Vernet

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#198 Jul 26, 2013
Deanstreet wrote:
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Patagonia dicky..
Seized by force, and you actually celebrate this with your 100-peso note, Julio Roca’s officers celebrating their victory on the Río Negro following their campaign of extermination..
It's there for all and sundry to see..
You don't even attempt to hide this..
You are actually reall proud of this conquest by force..
Stealing territory that didn't belong to you..
Those ambitions haven't altered to this day..
Kindest regards from the Falkland Islands
Ricardo no es patagónico, es Argentíno.
La patagónia es una región que compartímos con nuestros hermanos chilénos.
Aprendé antes de hablar burrádas, ocúpa.
La porción Argentina de esta basta región no fué incautada por el Pueblo Argentíno ya que desde la génesis de nuestra nación conforma parte integral de la misma.
Por supuesto que lo celebrámos ya que de no haber sido así hoy tendríamos que presentar pasaporte para visitar Bariloche.
Gracias a la campaña llevada a cabo por Don Julio Argentino Roca nuestra territorialidad seguía completándose.
Por supuesto que estámos orgullosos y lo volveríamos a hacer ya que se trató de un acto de soberanía. Estos territorios como todos los demás que conforman hoy nuestro país, desde la Quiaca hasta Nuestras Islas Malvinas Argentinas, eran parte integral del Virreynato del Río de la Plata.
Hemos hecho uso de nuestro derecho internacional a habitar lo que habitábamos:Uti Possidetis Iure. Al independizárnos del Reino de España a capa y espada, nos hemos ganado el ser merecedores a dicho derecho.
No ocultámos el hecho, por el contrario.
¿Como sentír verguenza de una campaña que no ha hecho más que ejercer nuestra soberanía territorial?, sería como sentir verguenza por la campaña del 2 de Abril de 1982.
¡Jamás!
Avergonzádos deberían sentírse todos los Piratas(Británicos)por haber nacído en Piratalandia(Gran Bretaña); Nación que ha basado su pasado y presente en someter a indefénzas naciones como las nuestras en póz de invadírles, usurpárles y anexárles por la fuerza partes integrales de sus territorios.
¡Andá haciendo las valíjas, traidor desagradecído!
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.
Luis Vernet

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#199 Jul 26, 2013
Deanstreet wrote:
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Squirming eh dicky..?
Retorcídos son uds.
Como no saben yá qué hacer ni que más decir para justificar lo injustificable, traen al debate falzos argumentos y tergiversan hechos históricos para hacerlos parecer favorábles a la ilegal presencia de Piratalandia(Gran Bretaña)en nuestro país.
¡Andá haciendo las valíjas, traidor desagradecído!
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.
Ricardo

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#200 Jul 26, 2013
Terry Hill wrote:
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The only recognition that would be admissible in any legal determination would be from 1833. All countries at that time accepted British sovereignty, and not one recognized Argentina's spurious claim.
Simply, a lie
And at THIS TIME no Country recognizes the british sovereigniy.
If they had before done it officially, that would have been irrevocable.
So, OBVIOUSLY, that didn't happen
So tired of teaching logic to you
Deanstreet

Stanley, Falkland Islands (Malvinas)

#201 Jul 26, 2013
Ricardo wrote:
<quoted text>
The proof is that every Country but the british community only acknowledge the uk DE FACTO administration
And the only option to de facto is de jure
Then, they do not recognize the legality of the uk administation
Moreover, for example, China has stated that the Malvinas should be returned to Argentina, only there you have many billions. And they are not the only Country saying that
dicky baby..

saying and doing are two completely and totally different things..

Can you see China or th3e other countries imposing sanctions..

No I thought not..

Kindest regards from the Falkland Islands
Deanstreet

Stanley, Falkland Islands (Malvinas)

#202 Jul 26, 2013
Ricardo wrote:
<quoted text>
Simply, a lie
And at THIS TIME no Country recognizes the british sovereigniy.
If they had before done it officially, that would have been irrevocable.
So, OBVIOUSLY, that didn't happen
So tired of teaching logic to you
But Spain did in 1863..

Kindest regards from the Falkland Islands
Deanstreet

Stanley, Falkland Islands (Malvinas)

#203 Jul 26, 2013
Ricardo wrote:
<quoted text>
Simply, a lie
And at THIS TIME no Country recognizes the british sovereigniy.
If they had before done it officially, that would have been irrevocable.
So, OBVIOUSLY, that didn't happen
So tired of teaching logic to you
Then would you be so kind enough to inform us which countries protested..?

Kindest regards from the Falkland Islands
Luis Vernet

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#204 Jul 26, 2013
Terry Hill wrote:
<quoted text>
What are your posts the products of an aspiring novelist, maricón.
YOU KNOW YOU'RE ITALIAN WHEN...
You find it necessary to carry a pager despite the fact that you are a part-time clerk at Longo's Fruit Market.
Como nó soy Italiano...agarrámela con la mano.
Como soy Argentíno...sobáme el pepíno.
¡Asesíno!
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.
Luis Vernet

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#205 Jul 26, 2013
Terry Hill wrote:
<quoted text>
For more on your deceit read through posts #703 to #720 in the 'The Argentine problem'thread
Hacélo vós, falzo leguleyo, si tenés dúdas. Nosotros no las tenémos.
Sos un mentiróso consuetudinario, no hay dudas al respecto.
¡Asesíno!
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.
Luis Vernet

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#206 Jul 26, 2013
Terry Hill wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know what makes you so dumb but it really works.
YOU KNOW YOU'RE ITALIAN WHEN..., maricón.
You have at least one short, balding uncle who, in his 50's wears a ponytail and diamond pinky ring
¿Ché con esto se ríen en Piratalandia(Gran Bretaña)?
No entiendo.
¿Que tienen que ver los Italianos con esta dispúta de soberanía entre el Reino Unido de Piratalandia(Gran Bretaña)e Irlanda del Norte y mi país la República Argentina, como reconose la Resolución 2065 de la ONU?
¡Asesíno!
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.
Luis Vernet

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#207 Jul 26, 2013
Terry Hill wrote:
<quoted text>
Grasp your ears firmly and pull; you might just be able to remove your head from your ass, maricón.
YOU KNOW YOU'RE ITALIAN WHEN...Your uncle valiantly preaches the values of hard work despite the fact that he is earning a healthy income scamming WCB, UIC, CPP and his car insurance company.
No entiendo ché, no me dejen afuera.
¿Piratalandia(Gran Bretaña)e Italia están en guerra o algo así?
¿Uds. se sienten inferiores con respecto a los Italianos, por eso los gastan?
Espero tus aclaraciones, falzo leguleyo.
¡Asesíno!
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.
Luis Vernet

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#208 Jul 26, 2013
Terry Hill wrote:
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The only recognition that would be admissible in any legal determination would be from 1833. All countries at that time accepted British sovereignty, and not one recognized Argentina's spurious claim.
Mentíra, falzo leguleyo, España jamás les reconoció derechos de soberanía a Piratalandia(Gran Bretaña).
¡Asesíno!
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.
Luis Vernet

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#209 Jul 26, 2013
Terry Hill wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet again no proof of anything, just your unqualified opinion.
¿Y a vós quien te nombró ser el dueño de la verdad, falzo leguleyo?
¡Asesíno!
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.
Deanstreet

Stanley, Falkland Islands (Malvinas)

#210 Jul 26, 2013
Luis Vernet wrote:
<quoted text>
¿Ché con esto se ríen en Piratalandia(Gran Bretaña)?
No entiendo.
¿Que tienen que ver los Italianos con esta dispúta de soberanía entre el Reino Unido de Piratalandia(Gran Bretaña)e Irlanda del Norte y mi país la República Argentina, como reconose la Resolución 2065 de la ONU?
¡Asesíno!
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.
I think you have no idea what 2065 is..
Luis Vernet

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#211 Jul 26, 2013
Deanstreet wrote:
<quoted text>
dicky baby..
saying and doing are two completely and totally different things..
Can you see China or th3e other countries imposing sanctions..
No I thought not..
Kindest regards from the Falkland Islands
y mirá algún daño pueden hacer.
Recordá que a meses de cumplir con el pacto por la entrega de la soberanía sobre Hong Kong, la Prostituta de Hierro amenazó con nó cumplir lo firmado. El Presidente de China le respondió diciendo que si no se cumplía con lo pactado le inundaba la isla de soldádos.
Acto seguido la Prostitúta arrugó y cumplió. Así que Piratalandia(Gran Bretaña)tiene bien en cuenta las decisiones que toma China, quedate tranquílo.
Por eso tené presente lo que te digo, que no te tome de sorpresa...
¡Andá haciendo las valíjas, traidor desagradecído!
Atte.,
Luís Vernet.
Terry Hill

São Paulo, Brazil

#212 Jul 26, 2013
Ricardo wrote:
<quoted text>
Simply, a lie
And at THIS TIME no Country recognizes the british sovereigniy.
If they had before done it officially, that would have been irrevocable.
So, OBVIOUSLY, that didn't happen
So tired of teaching logic to you
There was universal acceptance of British sovereignty as there is not one recorded objection, other than Argentine. Nor is there any record of any country lodging an objection, other than Argentina. Legally if there is no official objection, in law that is considered tacit acceptance. Moreover, there was implied diplomatic recognition thus:
"In 1869 Belgium, Italy and Germany (the North German Confederation) opened consulates in Stanley; the North German consulate then took over the representation of Hamburg. With Denmark, there were now four countries (plus Spain) that accepted the Falklands as British....
...In 1875 the United States opened a consulate in Stanley, with a paid full-time American consul, thus abandoning the US governments earlier policy of not recognising any territorial sovereignty in the Falklands. In 1877 Chile opened a consulate, as did Sweden and Norway jointly (the two crowns were united at that time) their consuls were unpaid honorary consuls, but they nevertheless counted in international law as full consuls.
The opening of a consulate is significant in international law It does not constitute diplomatic recognition (that is achieved by the exchange of ambassadors), but it implies diplomatic recognition - if a country does not recognise the legitimacy of another's government, it does not open a consulate there. By the end of the 1870s there were consulates of Belgium, Chile, Germany, Italy, Sweden and Norway (jointly), and the United States in Stanley/ Those seven countries clearly did not accept that there was a valid Argentine claim to the Falkland Islands.."

Getting it right: the real history of the Falklands/Malvinas by Graham Pascoe and Peter Pepper

Claims based on your personal wishes and so little based on proof.
Terry Hill

São Paulo, Brazil

#215 Jul 27, 2013
Ricardo wrote:
<quoted text>
The proof is that every Country but the british community only acknowledge the uk DE FACTO administration
And the only option to de facto is de jure
Then, they do not recognize the legality of the uk administation
Moreover, for example, China has stated that the Malvinas should be returned to Argentina, only there you have many billions. And they are not the only Country saying that
China's support is based on self interest as they have been claiming Taiwan as sovereign territory for years.
terry es una MIERDA

Tucuman, Argentina

#216 Jul 27, 2013
Terry Hill wrote:
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China's support is based on self interest as they have been claiming Taiwan as sovereign territory for years.
Anda a KAGAR,ROYAL HIJO de mil PUT...Royal sorete,royal PELOTUDO

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