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Lesbian couple in gay marriage case prepares for Supreme Court decision

There are 1581 comments on the Fox News story from Mar 24, 2013, titled Lesbian couple in gay marriage case prepares for Supreme Court decision. In it, Fox News reports that:

Big change is coming to the lives of the lesbian couple at the center of the fight for same-sex marriage in California no matter how the Supreme Court decides their case.

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Since: May 09

Nonya!

#520 Apr 4, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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Did I say that? I said it is folks like yourself who are more interested in having the studies done to try and justify your position!!!
So it's just people like me that want studies done??
Our side hasn't gone out and paid to have a study done that was clearly intended to show something that it can't because it isn't comparing apples to apples!!!
While I can not confirm or deny the statement you just made...I'm doughting very seriously that it is true??? Your side has been involved with a lot of 'research' they claim supports them....Regardless of who paid the professor, the results are 'credible'....what don't you get???

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#521 Apr 4, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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So it's just people like me that want studies done??
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While I can not confirm or deny the statement you just made...I'm doughting very seriously that it is true??? Your side has been involved with a lot of 'research' they claim supports them....Regardless of who paid the professor, the results are 'credible'....what don't you get???
Actually, an anti-gay biased source paid for the study and it isn't credible when the methodology is not correct!!!

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Since: May 09

Nonya!

#522 Apr 4, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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Actually, an anti-gay biased source paid for the study and it isn't credible when the methodology is not correct!!!
His methodology was deem credible by the university panel & the former Health and Human services consultant, what don't you people get???
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#523 Apr 4, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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A 'paid consultant' that had no dog in the fight...who sole job it was was to look out for both sides of the panel and determined that the university followed the guidelnes to determine if Prof Regenus misapplied, abused or in any way defrauded the methods and results of his study....the panel found he did not....
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I noticed that long before you did....and what is your point??? Are you saying the university covered up for him???? Are you really that s-tupid????'Insufficient evidence' means they couldn't find any 'evidence' of ANYTHING you all accused him of...learn english...
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What exactly do you think was scrutinzed by the panel??? His choice of wardrobe??? Are you really that silly??? The panel looked at his study, his methods and his conclusions and found no reason to investigate his study as a fraudulent study...face it...YOU LOSE!
After consulting with a four-member advisory panel composed of senior university faculty members, the Office of the Vice President for Research concluded in a report on Aug. 24 that there is insufficient evidence to warrant an investigation."

Insufficient evidence to warrant an investigation.... in other words, there was NO investigation.

I realize it's easy to bamboozle a gullible half-wit like you. Keep sticking up for bogus studies. It makes you appear even MORE stupid.
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#524 Apr 4, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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His methodology was deem credible by the university panel & the former Health and Human services consultant, what don't you people get???
IT WAS NOT!
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#525 Apr 4, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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His methodology was deem credible by the university panel & the former Health and Human services consultant, what don't you people get???
It's obvious they didn't investigate his methodology, or they would have had the same conclusions that the ASA had.

American Sociological Association calls out, obliterates anti-gay parenting study.

by conflating (1) children raised by same-sex parents with (2) individuals who reportedly had a parent who had “a romantic relationship with someone of the same sex,” and referring to such individuals as children of “lesbian mothers” or “gay fathers,” the Regnerus study obscures the fact that it did not specifically examine children raised by two same-sex parents. Accordingly, it cannot speak to the impact of same-sex parenting on child outcomes.

There is no arguing with that statement. One cannot study apples and then make conclusions about oranges. It's THAT simple.
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#526 Apr 4, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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His methodology was deem credible by the university panel & the former Health and Human services consultant, what don't you people get???
Mark Regnerus Admits His ‘Family Structures’ Study Wasn’t About Gay Parenting

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/10/30/1110...

I take pains in the study to say this is not about saying gay or lesbian parents are inherently bad...

I’d be more careful about the language I used to describe people whose parents had same-sex relationships. I said “lesbian mothers” and “gay fathers,” when in fact, I don’t know about their sexual orientation

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Since: May 09

Nonya!

#527 Apr 4, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>IT WAS NOT!
Yes it was...insufficient evidence to investigate means his research was sound and by the book....

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Since: May 09

Nonya!

#528 Apr 4, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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It's obvious they didn't investigate his methodology, or they would have had the same conclusions that the ASA had.
The APA are the ones that need investigating....

Mark Regnerus Cleared Of Misconduct in Research Involving Gay Parents
UT Austin will stop investigating associate professor.

Melissa Steffan

(Editor's note: This post has been updated to reflect the findings of a forthcoming audit of the Social Science Research peer-review process.)

The University of Texas at Austin has concluded its investigation of Mark Regnerus and declared the associate professor of sociology

---------not guilty of research misconduct----------
during his controversial study of children whose parents had same-sex relationships.

UT Austin research integrity officer Robert A. Peterson investigated eight charges against Regnerus made by freelance writer Scott Rosensweig (who writes under the byline Scott Rose) and found that

----------"none of the allegations ... were substantiated."--------

"In brief, Mr. Rose believed that the Regnerus research was seriously flawed and inferred that there must be scientific misconduct," wrote Peterson. "However, there is no evidence to support that inference."

If anyone was 'discredited..it was the 'Rose' person...

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Since: May 09

Nonya!

#529 Apr 4, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Mark Regnerus Admits His ‘Family Structures’ Study Wasn’t About Gay Parenting
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/10/30/1110...
I take pains in the study to say this is not about saying gay or lesbian parents are inherently bad...
I’d be more careful about the language I used to describe people whose parents had same-sex relationships. I said “lesbian mothers” and “gay fathers,” when in fact, I don’t know about their sexual orientation
LOL!! Really, you don't think this website has a little bit of 'biased' towards the professor or the study??? Come on now...find an non-biased source....

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#531 Apr 4, 2013
-Even though adoptive parents pay more attention to their children than biological, the outcome is far worse for the adopted child.

Except if the adoptive parents are ss, then they are equal to a biological parent.

-A step parent is 100 times more dangerous to a child than a natural parent.

Except if the step parent is part of a ss couple, then they are equal to a biological parent.

-Divorce has devastating effects on children that last into their adult life.

Except if the parent is gay. Then there is no effect.

Children in foster care are at a severe disadvantage.

Except if the child is with a ss couple. Then there is no difference compared to biological parents.

This is the assertion of all the major 'professional' organizations.

Case closed.

Smirk, snicker, smile.

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Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#532 Apr 4, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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His methodology was deem credible by the university panel & the former Health and Human services consultant, what don't you people get???
Sorry, but his methodology was not deem credible, hell the University didn't even bother to investigate the complaint.....but again, the study is irrelevant as well when it is impossible to claim what he claims having so little participants, who were not necessarily raised by the parent who might have been Gay or Lesbian!!!

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Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#533 Apr 4, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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His methodology was deem credible by the university panel & the former Health and Human services consultant, what don't you people get???
By the way.....do you know how long he must keep his data? Do you know that his study can still be investigated?

Do you know anything about collecting data? What is the difference between a qualitative study and a quantitative study? Which did he use? Why did he write his conclusion before his study was officially done?

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#534 Apr 4, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
Actually, you are wrong...
David Popenoe, Life Without Father: Compelling New Evidence that Fatherhood and Marriage Are Indispensable for the Good of Children and Society (New York: The Free Press, 1996)
Reviewed by Matthew Sulzle
June 2009
David Popenoe’s book Life Without Father: Compelling New Evidence That Fatherhood and Marriage Are Indispensable for the Good of Children and Society examines the dramatic decline in the status of fathers and fatherhood in American culture in recent decades, and his conclusion is remarkable. In response to the arguments of certain lobbyists, politicians, and his colleagues in sociology who wish to convince the world that women and children no longer need men, this National Marriage Project (Rutgers University) researcher boldly states his thesis:“The aim of this book is to try to convince you that this no-father argument is fundamentally wrong. If we continue down the path of fatherlessness, we are headed for social disaster" (8).
The aim of this book is to try to convince you that this no-father argument is fundamentally wrong.
-----If we continue down the path of fatherlessness, we are headed for social disaster.------
The book is organized into four parts.
Part One presents Popenoe’s diagnosis of the state of fatherlessness in our nation today.
Part Two places this diagnosis into context by giving a history of fatherhood and family life in recent times.
In Part Three, Popenoe makes his case that “fathers matter,” and that fatherhood is a virtue upon which the well-being of children and our very social fabric depend.
Finally, in Part Four, he gives his recommendations as to what our nation should do to “reclaim fatherhood and marriage.”
This has been since the beginning of time my friend....
Um sweetie, you do realize he was only studying heterosexuals, don't you? He compared intact hetero families to "single" mothers of a presumably hetero bent. There were no same sex couples anywhere in his little study. If there were none of us in it, it really can't be said to say a whole heck of a lot about us, now can it? Single mothers should not be confused with same sex couples, not even by you. By the by, the National Marriage Project, that's NOM's little brainchild. Hardly an unbiased source.
Troll Stopper 2

United States

#535 Apr 4, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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Usually the person posting the information is the one who needs to post the link.....but I am a msnbc watching liberal, so those rules never apply to me......frankly however, I make sure a link is posted if I post something I feel is important!!! When I feel something is important I make sure to find a link to that lie
Why not just tell the truth?

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Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#536 Apr 4, 2013
Troll Stopper 2 wrote:
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Why not just tell the truth?
And what "TRUTH" would that be? That you're an idiot who happens to be clueless? Okay.....done!!!
Troll Stopper 2

United States

#537 Apr 4, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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And what "TRUTH" would that be? That I am an idiot who happens to be clueless?
I would agree with that fact. I won't even ask you for the link to prove it.

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Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#538 Apr 4, 2013
Troll Stopper 2 wrote:
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I would agree with you that I'm an idiot. I don't even need a link to prove that.
Well, it's good to know you agree with me!!!

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Since: Nov 10

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#539 Apr 5, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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By the way.....do you know how long he must keep his data? Do you know that his study can still be investigated?
Do you know anything about collecting data? What is the difference between a qualitative study and a quantitative study? Which did he use? Why did he write his conclusion before his study was officially done?
-Even though adoptive parents pay more attention to their children than biological, the outcome is far worse for the adopted child.

Except if the adoptive parents are ss, then they are equal to a biological parent.

-A step parent is 100 times more dangerous to a child than a natural parent.

Except if the step parent is part of a ss couple, then they are equal to a biological parent.

-Divorce has devastating effects on children that last into their adult life.

Except if the parent is gay. Then there is no effect.

-Children in foster care are at a severe disadvantage.

Except if the child is with a ss couple. Then there is no difference compared to biological parents.

This is the assertion of all the major 'professional' organizations.

This is also why calling ss couple married is justified.

Case closed.

Snicker.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#540 Apr 5, 2013
Shit Breath wrote:
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After consulting with a four-member advisory panel composed of senior university faculty members, the Office of the Vice President for Research concluded in a report on Aug. 24 that there is insufficient evidence to warrant an investigation."
Insufficient evidence to warrant an investigation.... in other words, there was NO investigation.
I realize it's easy to bamboozle a gullible half-wit like you. Keep sticking up for bogus studies. It makes you appear even MORE stupid.
From the school's official announcement:

After consulting with a four-member advisory panel composed of senior university faculty members, the Office of the Vice President for Research concluded in a report on Aug. 24 that there is insufficient evidence to warrant an investigation.
...
As part of the inquiry, the university hired Dr. Alan Price to ensure that the inquiry was conducted appropriately and fairly. Price, a private consultant, is former associate director of the Office of Research Integrity in the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Price found that the inquiry was handled in a manner consistent with university policy and indicated the process was “also consistent with federal regulatory requirements of inquiries into research misconduct.”
...
As with much university research, Regnerus’ New Family Structures Study touches on a controversial and highly personal issue that is currently being debated by society at large. The university expects the scholarly community will continue to evaluate and report on the findings of the Regnerus article and supports such discussion.

Sounds like they're basically supporting his entire thesis: gays make lousy parents.

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