Jeb Bush: 'It is not [immigration] la...

Jeb Bush: 'It is not [immigration] law enforcement but the law itself that is broken'

There are 16 comments on the Quebec Chronicle-Telegraph story from Jan 25, 2013, titled Jeb Bush: 'It is not [immigration] law enforcement but the law itself that is broken'. In it, Quebec Chronicle-Telegraph reports that:

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Goldwater Institute Vice President Clint Bolick have a new book out, called Immigration Wars: Forging an American Solution .

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“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Since: Jan 08

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#1 Jan 25, 2013
I agree the immigration laws are a disaster.
Tear it all down and start from scratch.

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#2 Jan 25, 2013
sure its broken when never fully enforced without foolish excuses or any bleeding hearts involved.

we need to start with full enforcement on all things,something that has never been done yet written on the books already.

no one can say it does not work until it has fully been tried.

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#3 Jan 25, 2013
Yes - we need to get rid of the laws that encourage illegals to come here. No more free health care and free k-12 for illegals.

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#4 Jan 25, 2013
its funny to say laws than have never been enforced to their fullest as broken.

its those who are at the top that are broken and need replacing often. looking the other way never has stopped these crimes,lack of enforcement has do nothing to stop things.

one thing for sure amnesty has been proven to fail on all counts unless the idea is to call more. one thing we do need is id at all polls and every vote checked,otherwise we can never get rid of those in office who are going against the citizens.

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#5 Jan 25, 2013
Speeders Kill Kids wrote:
Yes - we need to get rid of the laws that encourage illegals to come here. No more free health care and free k-12 for illegals.
Agree, that's where we start. Then rely on attrition through enforcement with zero tolerance for offenders.

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#6 Jan 25, 2013
"There is no "line." Critics of comprehensive reform often argue that illegal immigrants should return to their native countries and wait in line like everyone else who wants to come to America. But unless they have relatives in the U.S. or can fit within the limited number of work-based visas, no line exists for such individuals.

For most aspiring immigrants, the only means of legal admission to this country is an annual "diversity lottery" that randomly awards visas to 55,000 foreigners. There are roughly 250 applicants for each visa every year. The absence of a meaningful avenue of access increases the pressure for illegal immigration."

Exactly.

When the law is so ridiculously bad that playing by the rules is completely impractical, people will FLOUT THE LAW.

Doesn't matter whether that is immigration law or anti-drug laws- people will ignore unworkable laws- and our LEGAL immigration system is a complete goat screw.

I don't know much about Jeb Bush, but he sure sounds a whole lot smarter than his brother.
ronnie

Pleasant Grove, UT

#8 Jan 25, 2013
We don't need the so called diversity lottery when millions just walk in and set up housekeeping, with the blessings of employer's and Church's like Catholic Charities and Many others. Unless our laws are enforced and the border maintained, drug's, human smuggling and worse, millions of the 3rd world poor will keep streaming in without consequence. Kill the job's. and protect the border, solved. But big Govment want's to keep um coming in for cheap labor.Immigration reform means protecting legal Americans, something this Government doesn't seem to want to do.

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#9 Jan 25, 2013
right now there is no need for anyone to come here. all jobs need to go to citizens,all immigration needs to be put on hold at least a decade,then and only then prove there is a need with facts.

we need our own people back to work before even thinking of helping others.we are in a mess and need to fix our own household before giving out to others.
byebye illegals

Austin, TX

#10 Jan 25, 2013
libertarian4321 wrote:
"There is no "line." Critics of comprehensive reform often argue that illegal immigrants should return to their native countries and wait in line like everyone else who wants to come to America. But unless they have relatives in the U.S. or can fit within the limited number of work-based visas, no line exists for such individuals.
For most aspiring immigrants, the only means of legal admission to this country is an annual "diversity lottery" that randomly awards visas to 55,000 foreigners. There are roughly 250 applicants for each visa every year. The absence of a meaningful avenue of access increases the pressure for illegal immigration."
Exactly.
When the law is so ridiculously bad that playing by the rules is completely impractical, people will FLOUT THE LAW.
Doesn't matter whether that is immigration law or anti-drug laws- people will ignore unworkable laws- and our LEGAL immigration system is a complete goat screw.
I don't know much about Jeb Bush, but he sure sounds a whole lot smarter than his brother.
Immigration laws in the US are not in place for the benefit of foreign nationals wanting to come to America. They are in place for the benefit of citizens. We need people who are a net gain to the country not a net DRAIN. Get it now Libertarian?
Immigrants, especially illegal ones have NO say in the making of our laws. That is the purview of citizens.

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#11 Jan 25, 2013
byebye illegals wrote:
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Immigration laws in the US are not in place for the benefit of foreign nationals wanting to come to America. They are in place for the benefit of citizens. We need people who are a net gain to the country not a net DRAIN. Get it now Libertarian?
Immigrants, especially illegal ones have NO say in the making of our laws. That is the purview of citizens.


Very nice!

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#12 Jan 26, 2013
After the '86 shamnesty, the new way of enforcing the laws was to look the other way. Look where that got us.

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#13 Jan 26, 2013
Speeders Kill Kids wrote:
Yes - we need to get rid of the laws that encourage illegals to come here. No more free health care and free k-12 for illegals.
Ooops, that would put some ELL instructors out of a job. Who knows, if that were to happen, maybe some schools would get some electives back that had to be dropped because of the lack of funding for them. There are so many variables that would result if that were to happen. Let's face it, nobody has the gonads to even suggest that, let alone implement it.

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#14 Jan 27, 2013
byebye illegals wrote:
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Immigration laws in the US are not in place for the benefit of foreign nationals wanting to come to America. They are in place for the benefit of citizens. We need people who are a net gain to the country not a net DRAIN. Get it now Libertarian?
Immigrants, especially illegal ones have NO say in the making of our laws. That is the purview of citizens.
that is the way it is supposed to be,yet without proof of right to vote citizens are fighting an uphill battle against those who support fraud,
Boknows

Fairfield, CA

#15 Jan 27, 2013
Cut off that diversity lottery,and make it as low skills work visa for those who would come and make a difference for their family and the one and only,UNCLE SAM.

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#16 Jan 27, 2013
Boknows wrote:
Cut off that diversity lottery,and make it as low skills work visa for those who would come and make a difference for their family and the one and only,UNCLE SAM.
sickening that anyone would think we should make diversity a reason for more people. what real purpose could that serve to help the country. maybe that is what else hillary meant by they are the new face of the nation,forcefully changing us.

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#17 Jan 28, 2013
tomin cali wrote:
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sickening that anyone would think we should make diversity a reason for more people. what real purpose could that serve to help the country. maybe that is what else hillary meant by they are the new face of the nation,forcefully changing us.
The question is what are they changing us to become, unarmed, easily manipulated drones? For those of you who will question the word, drone, in this sentence it means: a person who lives off the labor of others; parasitic loafer. What if we don't like this kind of change?

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