Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

[Susanm]

Bitner wrote:

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Nonsense. Tom Tom is not speaking from ignorance, but from hate. He's getting back what he's giving out.
And what the do you care anyway? Is your finger broken? Scroll.

"And what the do you care anyway? Is your finger broken? Scroll."

Right back at ya.

[Muddy]

STO wrote:

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That's nice. You have no explanation, of course. But it's great to know you question God's Law as He gave it. Heck, you're not even questioning it. You're rejecting it.

God's law does NOT mention abortion!!

[STO]

Ink wrote:

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I am not calling anybody a liar, certainly not God. What I said over and over is that 'your explanation' doesn't make sense. As I read it in the Bible, it does make sense. I also believe that a woman would probably admit her 'guilt' before she actually drank the water if she believed 'her belly would swell and her genitals would fall off.'

" What I said over and over is that 'your explanation' doesn't make sense. As I read it in the Bible, it does make sense."

What is the difference?

[STO]

Ink wrote:

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Yes and I reject the idea that the meaning of the law was to cause an abortion. God who knows you in the womb wouldn't do that.

"You and I"?

You. Not me.

I accept the translations, as explained to you.

What do you expect to gain by lying about me?

[STO]

Sorry, Ink. I mean that sincerely. I misread, "Yes and I". Thought it said, "You and I".

Again, my apologies.

[Ink]

STO wrote:

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" What I said over and over is that 'your explanation' doesn't make sense. As I read it in the Bible, it does make sense."
What is the difference?

You said the bitter water would cause an abortion if the woman has been unfaithful.
I said that is not what the Bible says.

[STO]

Gtown71 wrote:

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Yes wise one, please educate us dumb ole folks who know nothing.

I do my best!

[Ink]

STO wrote:

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"You and I"?
You. Not me.
I accept the translations, as explained to you.
What do you expect to gain by lying about me?

Huh? Are you related to Bitner?

[STO]

Katie wrote:

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Seems to me none of 'em can debate the merits of the PC position. Yet it doesn't slow 'em down from forging ahead come hell or high water.
(pun intended)

ha!

You see Ink's conclusion to the entire exchange? Boils down to, "I'm right and you're wrong, but I don't know why."

Incredible.

Wouldn't it be at least the slightest bit honest for her to admit I made my case, even if she doesn't accept it? Did I not give translations with links? Is it invisible to them?

I just..Katie..I don't get these people. It's..I don't know..I want to say dishonest, but deaf, dumb, blind and stupid seem to fit better.

[STO]

Ink wrote:

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You said the bitter water would cause an abortion if the woman has been unfaithful.
I said that is not what the Bible says.

What is the difference? What do you think the Bible "says"?

[STO]

Ink wrote:

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Huh? Are you related to Bitner?

I made a mistake. I apologized. If you see that as cause to attack Bitner, you justify it. Okay?

[feces for jesus]

Ink wrote:

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I only posted it because I was asked.
The laws were very stringent back then to protect family lines and inheritances. Today, many people don't care or respect whose baby is who's.
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Those laws don't seem to fit in with the "pro-life" mindset, do they?

[feces for jesus]

Gtown71 wrote:

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Well, after you see what an affair does to many people, then you might agree. I almost put myself down over the deal. Many do -however, I am not a jew, and most laws were written for tbe jew to be a seperate people.

So you get to ignore all of Leviticus because you're not Jewish? What else in the bible does not apply to you, Mr. Cherry Picker?

[Katie]

STO wrote:

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ha!
You see Ink's conclusion to the entire exchange? Boils down to, "I'm right and you're wrong, but I don't know why."
Incredible.
Wouldn't it be at least the slightest bit honest for her to admit I made my case, even if she doesn't accept it? Did I not give translations with links? Is it invisible to them?
I just..Katie..I don't get these people. It's..I don't know..I want to say dishonest, but deaf, dumb, blind and stupid seem to fit better.

One of her posts to you explains about God knowing you in the womb. That she doesn't understand why he'd allow abortion of someone he knew in the womb.

Which, of course, doesn't cover that all things are supposed to be through God. That God has His reasons. That if people can believe God has His plan, why can't they believe abortion IS part of that plan?

Why is abortion being focused on as if it were an atrocity? Why are so many fetal-focused to the exclusion of all else? Dishonest, deaf, dumb, blind, and stupid seem to amount to Willful Ignorance, imo.

[Bitner]

Susanm wrote:

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"And what the do you care anyway? Is your finger broken? Scroll."
Right back at ya.

I knew you wouldn't have the integrity to address that question.

[Susanm]

Bitner wrote:

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I knew you wouldn't have the integrity to address that question.

You want me to address the rest of your post? OK-Petey gets what he dishes out.

[Ink]

STO wrote:

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What is the difference? What do you think the Bible "says"?

I think it says she will get a hell of a bellyache and maybe even some kind of infection that would cause her to be sterile.

16 “And the priest shall bring her near and set her before the Lord. 17 And the priest shall take holy water in an earthenware vessel and take some of the dust that is on the floor of the tabernacle and put it into the water. 18 And the priest shall set the woman before the Lord and vunbind the hair of the woman's head and place in her hands the grain offering of remembrance, which is the grain offering of jealousy. And in his hand the priest shall have the water of bitterness that brings the curse. 19 Then the priest shall make her take an oath, saying,‘If no man has lain with you, and if you have not turned aside to uncleanness while you were under your husband's authority, be free from this water of bitterness that brings the curse. 20 But if you have gone astray, though you are under your husband's authority, and if you have defiled yourself, and some man other than your husband has lain with you, 21 then’(let the priest make the woman take the oath of the curse, and say to the woman) w‘the Lord make you a curse and an oath among your people, when the Lord makes your thigh fall away and your body swell. 22 May this water that brings the curse xpass into your bowels and make your womb swell and your thigh fall away.’ And the woman shall say, y‘Amen, Amen.’

23 “Then the priest shall write these curses in a book and wash them off into the water of bitterness. 24 And he shall make the woman drink the water of bitterness that brings the curse, and the water that brings the curse shall enter into her and cause bitter pain. 25 And the priest shall take the grain offering of jealousy out of the woman's hand zand shall wave the grain offering before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 And the priest ashall take a handful of the grain offering, as its memorial portion, and burn it on the altar, and afterward shall make the woman drink the water. 27 And when he has made her drink the water, then, if she has defiled herself and has broken faith with her husband, the water that brings the curse shall enter into her and cause bitter pain, and her womb shall swell, and her thigh shall fall away, and the woman bshall become a curse among her people. 28 But if the woman has not defiled herself and is clean, then she shall be free and shall conceive children.6 »




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[Bitner]

Susanm wrote:

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You want me to address the rest of your post? OK-Petey gets what he dishes out.

Is he the one complaining? No, that would be you, hypocritically complaining about one, but not the other.

[STO]

Ink wrote:

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I think it says she will get a hell of a bellyache and maybe even some kind of infection that would cause her to be sterile.
16 “And the priest shall bring her near and set her before the Lord. 17 And the priest shall take holy water in an earthenware vessel and take some of the dust that is on the floor of the tabernacle and put it into the water. 18 And the priest shall set the woman before the Lord and vunbind the hair of the woman's head and place in her hands the grain offering of remembrance, which is the grain offering of jealousy. And in his hand the priest shall have the water of bitterness that brings the curse. 19 Then the priest shall make her take an oath, saying,‘If no man has lain with you, and if you have not turned aside to uncleanness while you were under your husband's authority, be free from this water of bitterness that brings the curse. 20 But if you have gone astray, though you are under your husband's authority, and if you have defiled yourself, and some man other than your husband has lain with you, 21 then’(let the priest make the woman take the oath of the curse, and say to the woman) w‘the Lord make you a curse and an oath among your people, when the Lord makes your thigh fall away and your body swell. 22 May this water that brings the curse xpass into your bowels and make your womb swell and your thigh fall away.’ And the woman shall say, y‘Amen, Amen.’
23 “Then the priest shall write these curses in a book and wash them off into the water of bitterness. 24 And he shall make the woman drink the water of bitterness that brings the curse, and the water that brings the curse shall enter into her and cause bitter pain. 25 And the priest shall take the grain offering of jealousy out of the woman's hand zand shall wave the grain offering before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 And the priest ashall take a handful of the grain offering, as its memorial portion, and burn it on the altar, and afterward shall make the woman drink the water. 27 And when he has made her drink the water, then, if she has defiled herself and has broken faith with her husband, the water that brings the curse shall enter into her and cause bitter pain, and her womb shall swell, and her thigh shall fall away, and the woman bshall become a curse among her people. 28 But if the woman has not defiled herself and is clean, then she shall be free and shall conceive children.6 »
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"I think it says she will get a hell of a bellyache and maybe even some kind of infection that would cause her to be sterile."

How would those body responses prove her infidelity?

How would she or anyone else know she was sterile?

What if she was sterile before drinking the bitter water; how would that prove anything?

[Ink]

STO wrote:

Sorry, Ink. I mean that sincerely. I misread, "Yes and I". Thought it said, "You and I".
Again, my apologies.

I didn't see this, hence my response. Sorry too.

We are just going to disagree on what the Bible means in this instance.