Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 346207 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#262765 Oct 8, 2012
I know what power of attorney/ medical directive is. lol.

My mother has a medical directive with me named first as her agent, and my brother just made one with me as his.

I don't know why you people assume I don't know about the things I choose to post on. Maybe because you PCers don';t ever know what you're talking about when you choose to post about something, and assume we must be doing the same.

“...sigh”

Since: Nov 09

Smithtown, NY

#262766 Oct 8, 2012
Ink wrote:
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Do you have any direct quotes from the six doctors or only reports from biased media?
It would be rather hard to extract direct quotes from the doctors, Ink. The only way they revealed info is via the media. There is no "research" or unbiased report on this, to my knowledge.
Katie

Graham, WA

#262767 Oct 8, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
I said, "Power of attorney and someone making a decision on behalf of someone ELSE, is not comparable to that."
Next line, "IF someone specifies in their medical directive..." (another word for power of attorney) "...that they do not ever want any unborn child of theirs to be killed even if it means she'll die, that again is HER decision."
Which is what I've said over and over and over again. So what is your disagreement this time?

(Michael Schiavo followed his wife's wishes and discontinued futile ALS)

(JM hypothetically said she'd not approve life-saving treatment (abortion) based on her daughter's wishes)

(The woman Foo referred to chose not to have a life-saving treatment (abortion) and died with her fetus per her wishes)

Where is the disagreement? Any dissimilarity? Any argument?
Ink

Feasterville Trevose, PA

#262768 Oct 8, 2012
LadiLulu wrote:
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I never saw that. I only saw where the doctors were involved. I'd be surprised if they took the advice of a social worker since this was a medical decision.
I agree with you about the girl.
I'm sure the social worker got involved due to the rape and I'm sure she thought an abortion would be the best solution.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#262769 Oct 8, 2012
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>It's hard to make these decisions because end-of-life situations are rarely black and white to the loved ones. My dad had a very clear living will, but I had to make a decision of whether he would be given pain or anti-anxiety meds, since he was completely unresponsive. The same thing happened with my mother. I still have moments when I second-guess my decision, but that's okay. We do the best we can do and that is enough.
I'm sorry you had to experience that. I'm very glad my mother has made her wishes completely clear. I just have to follow them as she wished.
Katie

Graham, WA

#262770 Oct 8, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
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You and the bullshit you claim as "civil rights" are ridiculous.
The woman made her own conscious decision, for herself, to risk HER OWN life rather than have her unborn child killed. That child, according to the story, was non-viable and would have died either way.
Okay. No clue why you're trying to insult me, though.
Power of attorney and someone making a decision on behalf of someone ELSE, is not comparable to that.
You said, "IF someone specifies in their medical directive..." (another word for power of attorney)"
IF someone specifies in their medical directive that they do not ever want any unborn child of theirs to be killed even if it means she'll die, that again is HER decision.
Yes, it is. And is what I've said over and over and over again.
The comparisons you're trying to make are about people who made decisions for others and with no medical directive. NOT the same thing.
You said, "IF someone specifies in their medical directive..." (another word for power of attorney)"
So, your comparisons have NOTHING to do with that woman's story.
I have no words to describe just how irrational display yourself to be.
You said, "IF someone specifies in their medical directive..." (another word for power of attorney)"

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

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#262771 Oct 8, 2012
Ink wrote:
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Because according to Catholic doctrine a Catholic woman does have every right to save her own life if a pregnancy is killing her.
That's why I don't think the story is true.
Interesting. Then why has abortion to save the life of the mother been such an issue on here? I'm actually quite surprised.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#262772 Oct 8, 2012
Katie wrote:
<quoted text>
Which is what I've said over and over and over again. So what is your disagreement this time?
(Michael Schiavo followed his wife's wishes and discontinued futile ALS)
(JM hypothetically said she'd not approve life-saving treatment (abortion) based on her daughter's wishes)
(The woman Foo referred to chose not to have a life-saving treatment (abortion) and died with her fetus per her wishes)
Where is the disagreement? Any dissimilarity? Any argument?
Did Shaivo's wife or JM's daughter in that hypothetical have a medical directive? If not, then your comparison is null and void. No comparison. My argument is based on the examples you're using no having medical directives and their wishes written down and notarized.

“...sigh”

Since: Nov 09

Smithtown, NY

#262773 Oct 8, 2012
Junket wrote:
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Ink, pro-life doctors in the case of the 9 year old child all agreed that her uterus was going to burst. I think 4, if not 5, were involved in the consultation. They were (of course) ex-communicated as was the Mother of the pregnant child.
Not sure about the other situation, but "who" thought that a possibility existed to save both? Certainly not a medical professional - unless you know differently?
Anything I've been able to find has pointed to the doctors. One source has the church feeling she should undergo a C-section.

“...sigh”

Since: Nov 09

Smithtown, NY

#262774 Oct 8, 2012
Ink wrote:
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Why, she is not pro choice. She is only pointing out that PCers only respect the choice to abort and don't respect the choice to not abort regardless of the outcome. If the story is real, she didn't have to die.
Please don't generalize. A number of us here fully supported her choice, however tragic the outcome.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

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#262775 Oct 8, 2012
(Michael Schiavo followed his wife's wishes and discontinued futile ALS)

(JM hypothetically said she'd not approve life-saving treatment (abortion) based on her daughter's wishes)

(The woman Foo referred to chose not to have a life-saving treatment (abortion) and died with her fetus per her wishes)

Where is the disagreement? Any dissimilarity? Any argument?

Shiavo made a decision and only had HIS WORD that those were her wishes. The word of someone who had moved on with his life with another woman. Credibility is questionable.The pertinent part is SHE didn't SAY anything, he did.

JM's love for her daughter, based on what I've seen posted by her is credible. She cares for her daughter's eternal life. If she claims her daughter would never want her child aborted, her word is credible enough that I think her owrd, as the mother who loves her daughter is good. But, it's still not comparable to the daughter making her own wishes known with her own voice at the time the decision needs to be made. Doesn't compare to the woman Foo posted about.

The woman Foo spoke of made the decision with her own voice. SHE REFUSED an LTA at the time doctors told her she needed one, according to what Foo posted.

Big difference and no comparison.

“...sigh”

Since: Nov 09

Smithtown, NY

#262776 Oct 8, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
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What "lambasting" you?
This is what I said, and I used caps to point out the operative words.
"Well, if you look at it from HER point of view, having the beliefs she had, it's was a positive for both her and her child. She chose to have them both in heaven than to be separated from her child eternally, by choosing to have that child killed in utero. That's what a religious belief is about.
That was HER relgious belief (her CHOICE to even have a religious belief), and in that belief, the "eternal life" outcome is a positive one for HER and her unborn child."
That was no lambasting you.
In reply to you saying, "I can't see how anyone could call that a positive outcome, for anyone.
:( "
Since no one called it a positive outcome, it's obvious you're trying to accuse the pro-lifers of something, as Foo had tried.
I replied saying,
Y"ou all should leave it alone and let her rest in peace.What any of you are doing is disrespecting HER CHOICES and saying SHE made the wrong choice. To HER, she didn't. "
That's hardly lambasting you. Grow up.
You "grow up" you old sow.

Your UPPER CASE was "lambasting" me, and of course I can't see how anyone could call that a positive outcome, meaning the *family* you paranoid loser.

I respected HER choice completely.

Grow a brain cell.

“...sigh”

Since: Nov 09

Smithtown, NY

#262777 Oct 8, 2012
Ink wrote:
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I'm sure the social worker got involved due to the rape and I'm sure she thought an abortion would be the best solution.
Possibly.

Especially since it was perfectly legal, as abortion is legal there for life of the mother or rape situations.

Do you have anything that mentions the social worker, by any chance?

“...sigh”

Since: Nov 09

Smithtown, NY

#262778 Oct 8, 2012
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text> "autorant"
lol! I love that. That was funny...!!! Yay, you!
Yay ME you, mean, as she was merely quoting me.

She isn't that clever, hun.

Since: Jun 08

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#262779 Oct 8, 2012
Katie wrote:
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A durable power of attorney IS a medical directive, goofball. I was agreeing with you until you made that baseless claim. Which is usually how it goes when reading your posts. There's a lot in common between all of us (which may explain why we're still here), but too much unnecessary anal disagreement stands in the way of productive discussions on how to actually lower the number of annual abortions for any of us to claim success.
Yes:-)
Ink

Feasterville Trevose, PA

#262780 Oct 8, 2012
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
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Interesting. Then why has abortion to save the life of the mother been such an issue on here? I'm actually quite surprised.
Because as many times as it has been explained, people want to believe that the Church wants dead mothers and babies. The woman's life actually has to be in grave danger or the woman needs treatment that would kill the child. Such as cancer or an etopic pregnancy. Anything that can be managed until the child is viable like hypertension must be tried.
It is convenient to justify abortion by using the bogus 'life of the mother' excuse.

Since: Jun 08

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#262781 Oct 8, 2012
lil Lily wrote:
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I have been, thanks. The PCers have been posting in true form, and I'm loving every minute of them proving, on their own, their ignorance and hypocrisy.
I have tons of fun just highlighting it.
Wow. Okey dokey:-\
Ink

Feasterville Trevose, PA

#262782 Oct 8, 2012
LadiLulu wrote:
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Possibly.
Especially since it was perfectly legal, as abortion is legal there for life of the mother or rape situations.
Do you have anything that mentions the social worker, by any chance?
I don't. I remember reading it back when we discussed this before.

I'll look around when I get a chance.

“...sigh”

Since: Nov 09

Smithtown, NY

#262783 Oct 8, 2012
Ink wrote:
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I don't. I remember reading it back when we discussed this before.
I'll look around when I get a chance.
Okay.

I'll look around too.

I also want to find where I saw the # of doctors. That's bugging me.
Ink

Feasterville Trevose, PA

#262784 Oct 8, 2012
LadiLulu wrote:
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Please don't generalize. A number of us here fully supported her choice, however tragic the outcome.
Sorry to anyone who felt wrongly included.

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