Obamacare agency rushed in contractor...

Obamacare agency rushed in contractor without bids, documents show

There are 21 comments on the Reuters story from Nov 23, 2013, titled Obamacare agency rushed in contractor without bids, documents show. In it, Reuters reports that:

Caught flat-footed by the challenges of building the financial-management and accounting parts of the U.S. government's new online marketplace for health insurance, officials rushed to hire a familiar contractor without seeking competing bids, according to government procurement documents reviewed by Reuters.

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see the light

El Paso, TX

#1 Nov 23, 2013
Figures, they also hired anyone off the street to help sign up people so they can steal their identity. Typical of Democrats.
Cat74

Bolingbrook, IL

#2 Nov 23, 2013
I know. Most people are calling it the Affordable Identity theft Act. Many experts have testified that there is no way to protect your information once it its out there. They couldn't pay me to sign up for that scam.

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#3 Nov 23, 2013
What do you need bids for?
They won the election and can do anything they want.
They can make you pay a tax if you don't buy their insurance. They can offer only substandard policies that make senior citizens pay for coverage they don't need or want. They can take your doctor away. They can spy on your phone calls. They can kill you with drones. They can silence all dissent in the Senate.
And you are worried about whether the lowest bidder was awarded a government contract to to collect your personal data. Stop complaining. This is what you asked for.
see the light

El Paso, TX

#4 Nov 24, 2013
Democrats were the only ones to ask for this fiasco. Not one single Republican voted for this. Democrats own it completely.
fatbacks x

Portland, OR

#6 Nov 24, 2013
Halibortion didn't have to bid for the hundred year wars.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#7 Nov 24, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
I know. Most people are calling it the Affordable Identity theft Act. Many experts have testified that there is no way to protect your information once it its out there. They couldn't pay me to sign up for that scam.
You're not required to leave a social security number or medical history so what information can be stolen that compromises your identity?

None of the fear mongering seems to have an impact on the number of people registering and purchasing insurance, so that appears to suggest that some of the issue that were common early on aren't so consuming now.

The republicans railing seems to be helping to drive Americans to the site to look and see for themselves.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#8 Nov 24, 2013
I'd think they're employing the same strategy through the same loop
holes that the Bush DOD used in providing Halliburton and Black water with non-bid solicitations.

Awarding No Bid contracts is not unique I would not think...... it's been done for Billions in Contract awards to Halliburton alone in the last 13 years.

Or would we now believe there are new and separate standards in place?
SirPrize wrote:
What do you need bids for?
They won the election and can do anything they want.
They can make you pay a tax if you don't buy their insurance. They can offer only substandard policies that make senior citizens pay for coverage they don't need or want. They can take your doctor away. They can spy on your phone calls. They can kill you with drones. They can silence all dissent in the Senate.
And you are worried about whether the lowest bidder was awarded a government contract to to collect your personal data. Stop complaining. This is what you asked for.
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#9 Nov 24, 2013
see the light wrote:
Figures, they also hired anyone off the street to help sign up people so they can steal their identity. Typical of Democrats.
Resembles Paul Bremer's office in Baghdad ten years ago.

Billions of taxpayer dollars there for the grabbing,
no questions asked.

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#10 Nov 24, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
I'd think they're employing the same strategy through the same loop
holes that the Bush DOD used in providing Halliburton and Black water with non-bid solicitations.
Awarding No Bid contracts is not unique I would not think...... it's been done for Billions in Contract awards to Halliburton alone in the last 13 years.
Or would we now believe there are new and separate standards in place?
<quoted text>
So, what you're suggesting is that Obama is merely following one of Bush's policies.
Do you ever tire of praising Obama for following Bush's policies.
Don't you think it's time for a change?
Cat74

Aurora, IL

#11 Nov 24, 2013
You are so misinformed. They have your name, address, S S number, health record, they want to know if you have a gun, is it locked up, do you have unprotected sex and, on, and on, and on. They cover abortion, and STDs, maternity even if you are a male, dental care even if you have dentures. It takes hours to answer all the questions. You would have to be mentally challenged to sign onto one of those Government sites.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#12 Nov 25, 2013
SirPrize wrote:
<quoted text>
So, what you're suggesting is that Obama is merely following one of Bush's policies.
Do you ever tire of praising Obama for following Bush's policies.
Don't you think it's time for a change?
No, I was pretty clear on what I was suggesting...... Why would anyone consider changing the rules of the game in the middle of the game?

If America issued Billions of contracts without bids, why could they not now issue Millions in contracts without bids?

The fact that the first lady has a class mate running one of the companies receiving those multimillion dollar contracts is not as relevant as the Vice President under Bush being a former CEO of the recipient of the multiBillions dollar Contracts without bids, right?
Cat74

Naperville, IL

#13 Nov 25, 2013
Oh, it is quite relevant if the 1st Lady's friend is running the Obamascam website if he is as incompetent as he appears to be. My God, he is as incompetent as the President, and that is going some.

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#16 Nov 26, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I was pretty clear on what I was suggesting...... Why would anyone consider changing the rules of the game in the middle of the game?
If America issued Billions of contracts without bids, why could they not now issue Millions in contracts without bids?
The fact that the first lady has a class mate running one of the companies receiving those multimillion dollar contracts is not as relevant as the Vice President under Bush being a former CEO of the recipient of the multiBillions dollar Contracts without bids, right?
Why would anyone consider changing the rules of the game in the middle of the game? That's an excellent question. Obama has continuously changed the rules for Obamacare. Are you asking why that is?
I certainly don't know. He got everything he asked for, didn't he?
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#17 Nov 26, 2013
No, Obama compromised on Health Care he accepted the Republicans Health Care plan. The trouble he's having now with Health Care is a result of not standing up for the the progressive plan of Universal Coverage. Obama should have elected to go full tilt with the Public Option.

Only you who have no idea of the 50 year battle to reform health care can tie this plan to the democrats and Obama. Those who are more adept with American politics know full well the ACA was devised by Republicans and undated with the Mandate by the Heritage Foundation.

Democrats have long coveted Universal Coverage, Single Payer...... Medicare for All.

Now as for the No Bid Federal Contracts, that's how business has been done in Washington long before Obama exercised those strategies with this website, so why is it even being mentioned now as if there is some hidden conclusion?
SirPrize wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would anyone consider changing the rules of the game in the middle of the game? That's an excellent question. Obama has continuously changed the rules for Obamacare. Are you asking why that is?
I certainly don't know. He got everything he asked for, didn't he?

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#18 Nov 26, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
No, Obama compromised on Health Care he accepted the Republicans Health Care plan. The trouble he's having now with Health Care is a result of not standing up for the the progressive plan of Universal Coverage. Obama should have elected to go full tilt with the Public Option.
Only you who have no idea of the 50 year battle to reform health care can tie this plan to the democrats and Obama. Those who are more adept with American politics know full well the ACA was devised by Republicans and undated with the Mandate by the Heritage Foundation.
Democrats have long coveted Universal Coverage, Single Payer...... Medicare for All.
Now as for the No Bid Federal Contracts, that's how business has been done in Washington long before Obama exercised those strategies with this website, so why is it even being mentioned now as if there is some hidden conclusion?
<quoted text>
You are very confused. Not a single Republican voted for Obamacare!
Now, you are trying to blame them for the fiasco.

On top of that, you think corruption in Government is OK if Obama is doing it.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#19 Nov 26, 2013
SirPrize wrote:
<quoted text>
You are very confused. Not a single Republican voted for Obamacare!
Now, you are trying to blame them for the fiasco.
On top of that, you think corruption in Government is OK if Obama is doing it.
Not a single Republican voted for the Republican plan because Obama supported it's passage..

That has nothing to do with the history of the ACA. ACA was devised by Republicans, Nixon offered is as an alternative to Ted Kennedy in the 70s, and Bob Dole ran against Clinton using that same plan, with the Heritage Foundation including the Mandate.....

This plan, ACA is a long time plan that has been around for better than 40 years.

It's the Republican Market Approach an alternative to the Democrats Single Payer system, which as last proposed by Hillary and Bill Clinton in 1992.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#20 Nov 26, 2013
SirPrize wrote:
<quoted text>
You are very confused. Not a single Republican voted for Obamacare!
Now, you are trying to blame them for the fiasco.
On top of that, you think corruption in Government is OK if Obama is doing it.
You're trying to say that No Bid Contracts is corruption now that Obama has employed the strategy, but so long as Cheney's former company Halliburton was receiving Billions in No Bid Contracts that didn't signify corruption in Government........

Why would Obama not be held to the same standard as prior administrations?

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#21 Nov 26, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
Not a single Republican voted for the Republican plan because Obama supported it's passage..
That has nothing to do with the history of the ACA. ACA was devised by Republicans, Nixon offered is as an alternative to Ted Kennedy in the 70s, and Bob Dole ran against Clinton using that same plan, with the Heritage Foundation including the Mandate.....
This plan, ACA is a long time plan that has been around for better than 40 years.
It's the Republican Market Approach an alternative to the Democrats Single Payer system, which as last proposed by Hillary and Bill Clinton in 1992.
Boy! You really must think I'm as dumb as a Democrat to believe that spin.
You expect me to believe that the Democrats have been striving for over 40 years to have the Government take over health insurance in America and, when they finally take over the Presidency and both Houses of Congress, they voted for a Republican plan they had been fighting against for 40 years!
Wow! You are screwy.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#22 Nov 26, 2013
SirPrize wrote:
<quoted text>
Boy! You really must think I'm as dumb as a Democrat to believe that spin.
You expect me to believe that the Democrats have been striving for over 40 years to have the Government take over health insurance in America and, when they finally take over the Presidency and both Houses of Congress, they voted for a Republican plan they had been fighting against for 40 years!
Wow! You are screwy.
That's not screwy, that is a matter of American History.

You're on the internet, research Republican Health Care begin with Nixon and Bob Dole's Campaign against Clinton.

It's typical that supporters of the GOP don't have a clue around all things American, and nothing about our history as you are proving right now.

Spend more time getting familiar with America and our history and less espousing stooge talking points.

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#23 Nov 26, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
That's not screwy, that is a matter of American History.
You're on the internet, research Republican Health Care begin with Nixon and Bob Dole's Campaign against Clinton.
It's typical that supporters of the GOP don't have a clue around all things American, and nothing about our history as you are proving right now.
Spend more time getting familiar with America and our history and less espousing stooge talking points.
The question wasn't about whether Republicans ever had a plan for providing health care. The question was about whether Republicans should be blamed for the Obamacare fiasco even though not one Republican voted for it. Your stance that the Democrats fought for over 40 years and then voted for something they didn't want over the vehement objections of the opposing parties and their own constituents is absurd. To move from that stance to blaming Republicans for the mess the Democrats diabolically foisted on America is ridiculous.

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