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Colorado Shooting Rekindles Gun Control Debate

There are 5105 comments on the Roll Call story from Jul 22, 2012, titled Colorado Shooting Rekindles Gun Control Debate. In it, Roll Call reports that:

Sen. Dianne Feinstein called for increased gun control in the wake of last week's Colorado shooting, saying it may have helped prevent the tragic incident.

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“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

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#4923 Oct 17, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
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Yes, I indeed did blame them as well.
Would you purchase a home under these circumstances? Low introductory rate mortgage with interest only payment the first five years knowing the rate may adjust and the payment would go up substantially in five years?
Remember it was the mass default on these loans which really began the tumble. It was inevitable. Underwriters only cared about writing the loan. The loans would be repackaged and sold immediately in investment packages.
Sorry cynic, but your accusations are laying at the wrong feet there.

How can you blame the mark when the mark was set up from the get go with full knowledge that the mark would most likely default?
Was that not a secondary benefit to the so called lenders?
Who takes possession of the actually property, both physically and legally when the loan goes into default?
What happens to the property then?
Does it not then go back on the market with another opportunity for profit for the ones that helped set up the sting in the first place?

Tis the wrong feet where you lay burden and the wrong feet you kiss.

Since: Jul 12

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#4924 Oct 17, 2012
koz wrote:
<quoted text> When the Republican Congress forced that budget on him, how much was the national debt reduced?
Lets assume you are talking Clinton and the Republican Congress since you did not specify.

Who forced what on whom? Why don't you go back and look at the budget request from Clinton to Congress and how much Congress approved.

Table 470 at the bottom of the page. Debt held by public, total column.

http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/t...

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

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#4926 Oct 17, 2012
okb2 wrote:
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Would you by a timeshare? Only an idiot would and it happens everyday.
That is why the role of the lending institution is to perform "due dilligence" in the lending process to ensure that borrowers are capable of making the mortgage payments.
The whole idea behind the "teaser" rates and the "Pay-Go" loans was to qualify people for loans that they could not afford and then sell the loans making a fortune.
Don't believe me? How many firms used either "teaser" rates or "Pay-Go" (pay what you can, even below the interest charge) and then held on to the loan?
It was, for all intents and purposes, their loss leader advertiser. As with all loss leader advertisments, their objective is to fleece more wool from the sheep.

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#4927 Oct 17, 2012
okb2 wrote:
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Third parties won't get off the ground in the US because few of them have the sticking around power unless they are so far fringe as to not appeal to the broad base. The Green Party is an example.
Once they start to appeal to the broad base then one or the other or both of the major parties will shift their position to be in competition with the new party.
Were not both current parties considered to be radical third parties at their inception?

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

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#4928 Oct 17, 2012
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Are we fighting enemy combatants in Mexico?
Are we fighting "enemy combatants" in Egypt?
Libya?
Syria?

Iran?

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

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#4929 Oct 17, 2012
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Yeah...supplied by our own govt.
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I draw the line at the safety and security of my country and that of our allies.
"I draw the line at the safety and security of my country and that of our allies."

COPOUT !!!!!!!!!!

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

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#4930 Oct 17, 2012
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Mexico's problems are caused by more than a few guns being brought across the border. It starts at the mexican capitol and gets worse the farther you go down the line. The drug cartels are able to run roughshod over the populous because the public is disarmed by their own govt. Mexico's govt is one of the most corrupt in the world.
Remove the word "Mexico's" in your last sentence and insert "America's" and see how it STILL reads true.
This "war on crime" is one utter waste of our wealth that we no longer have to spare.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

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#4931 Oct 17, 2012
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Mexico is a leech sucking us dry.
Remove the word "Mexico" and insert any of the following.

UNITED NATIONS

Iraq
Afghanistan
Syria
Israel
Egypt
Kenya

and any and ALL foreign countries that receive foreign "aid" from us the US.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

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#4932 Oct 17, 2012
Henry Kissinger wrote:
who cares about the deficit?
Obama turned around the economy! Obama saved the auto industry thus keeping working people in the Midwest from falling into poverty! Obama is addressing global warming! FOUR MORE YEAR! FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS! Obama2012!
Have some more koolaid sir. Your snake handling abilities are not yet at the predescribed level for you to be immune to the snake's poison.
Did you get yo Bama fon yet?

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

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#4933 Oct 17, 2012
Dr Freud wrote:
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"Hint, don't listen to the voices!"
Wait! Wait! Maybe one of those voices will demand that he go hang himself ...
Well, think: This could be a Darwinian prize moment, could it not?
Oh, like a teaching moment eh.
<snort>

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#4934 Oct 17, 2012
okb2 wrote:
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Pre-Stimulus? You are the loser moron just like you are everytime you do this sort of thing.
Kinda like foreplay huh.
It just makes you all hot and bothered with no satisfactional release of pent up angst and energy.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

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#4935 Oct 17, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
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The downturn began under Clinton. It’s just convenient to blame Bush. Hell, Obama is still blaming Bush.
Reagan inherited a faltering economy. How many times did he blame Carter?
One would have to go back and count them in the debates to know for sure, but it was multiple times.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

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#4936 Oct 17, 2012
Armed Veteran wrote:
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The question is, if Obama is reelected, who will he blame for the economy he is going to inherit this time??
Easy, he’ll continue to blame Bush.

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#4937 Oct 17, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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Were not both current parties considered to be radical third parties at their inception?
Lincoln as a radical?

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

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#4938 Oct 17, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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Sorry cynic, but your accusations are laying at the wrong feet there.
How can you blame the mark when the mark was set up from the get go with full knowledge that the mark would most likely default?
Was that not a secondary benefit to the so called lenders?
Who takes possession of the actually property, both physically and legally when the loan goes into default?
What happens to the property then?
Does it not then go back on the market with another opportunity for profit for the ones that helped set up the sting in the first place?
Tis the wrong feet where you lay burden and the wrong feet you kiss.
The mark should go into the biggest transaction of their life educated, or bring an advisor. Anyone so stupid gets what they deserve.

Which feet have I kissed?

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#4939 Oct 17, 2012
okb2 wrote:
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Regardless of when the downturn began, blaming government for anything other than a small portion is not very smart. The cause was greed in the finance industry and the housing industry including sales and mortgage lenders.
Reagan blamed Carter a lot.
Do a search for "bush blames Clinton" and see what happens.
The housing collapse happened and people just like you tried to blame Clinton....and when it was not Clinton it was Carter with the CRA which was what, 26 years before the collapse?
Really?

Here’s the best one person attempting to illustrate what you state http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/01/29/8317...

A few example of Obama.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-blames-bu...
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katehicks/2012/0...
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/how-long-can-...

This would be quite amusing if it didn’t impact so many people

http://blogs.ajc.com/kyle-wingfield/2012/06/2...

Obama needs to grow a set and speak the truth.

I mention Reagan and you want to drag Bush back into it. Another one that desires to blame Bush for all of our woes? I’m not a fan of Bush, but he was a much better president than the talking head we have now.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

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#4940 Oct 17, 2012
okb2 wrote:
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Lincoln as a radical?
Of course he was considered a radical at the time.
It came to actual blows on the Senate floor as two Democrats, Democratic representatives Preston Brooks and Lawrence Keitt (South Carolina) brutally attacked Charles Sumner with a cane after Sumner gave a passionate anti-slavery speech which Brooks took offense (he was related to the main antagonist of Sumner's speech, South Carolina Senator Andrew Butler). Both representatives resigned from Congress with severe indignation over their ouster, but were returned to Congress by South Carolina voters in the next year. Sumner was not able to return to the Congressional halls for four years after the attack. Brooks was heard boasting "Next time I will have to kill him," as he left the Senate floor after the attack.

On the same day as the attack came the news of the armed attack in Lawrence, Kansas. As a direct outgrowth of the "settler sovereignty" of the Kansas-Nebraska Act, an armed band of men from Missouri and Nebraska sacked the town of Lawrence and arrested the leaders of the free state. The anti-abolitionists had made it clear that "settler sovereignty" meant pro-slavery. Labeled only as "ruffians" by Southern politicians, Horace Greeley was quick to decry both events as plots of the pro-slavery South. "Failing to silence the North by threats...the South now resorts to actual violence." The first rumblings of the Civil War had begun. The stage was set for the 1856 election, one which held the future of the Union in its grasp.

http://www.ushistory.org/gop/origins.htm

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#4941 Oct 17, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
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The mark should go into the biggest transaction of their life educated, or bring an advisor. Anyone so stupid gets what they deserve.
Which feet have I kissed?
My mistake. You did no kissing of feet in this particular case.

“Antisocialistic”

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#4942 Oct 17, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>So you say. But then you also said the whole VA system was substandard.
I said the standard of care was lower for the VA as a whole.
NoBlamer 2012

Mcarthur, CA

#4943 Oct 17, 2012
okb2 wrote:
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Lets assume you are talking Clinton and the Republican Congress since you did not specify.
Who forced what on whom? Why don't you go back and look at the budget request from Clinton to Congress and how much Congress approved.
Table 470 at the bottom of the page. Debt held by public, total column.
http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/t...
post #4916

ahhh...

look at the lying loser who ran away with her tail between her legs

NoBlamer 2012 wrote:
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how much money do you now pay in taxes ?
how much more do you want to pay ?
when will it be enough ?
okb2 wrote:
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I pay more than twice as much as Romney, sometimes closer to 3 times what he pays.

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