Obama heads home to refocus on the ec...

Obama heads home to refocus on the economy

There are 126 comments on the WPTZ-TV Plattsburgh story from Jul 24, 2013, titled Obama heads home to refocus on the economy. In it, WPTZ-TV Plattsburgh reports that:

President Barack Obama returns to his home state of Illinois on Wednesday to kick off a series of speeches intended to shift the public conversation back to the economy.

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“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#112 Jul 26, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Millions of people saw their 401k accounts plummet when the DOW plummeted.
Now those same millions see their 401k accounts about back to where they were.
I'd say it's a pretty good indicator of how the direction of the economy.
*sigh*

You're not understanding. The market is all based on Fraud. Fake derivatives. Ok these people many have had their 401k's go back up. But, the system is based on fraud.

The entire market right now is only functioning because the Fed is dumping $85B/mo into the financial markets. The house of cars will eventually come down because there is no manufacturing.

The U6 numbers show this. The media and DNC like to go around and wave their flags that they created what 190k jobs last month or something like that? That was about the figure. But, they fail to tell everyone that those jobs are temp and part time jobs in the service sector.

Want to wipe someones ass, flip burgers, be a greeter at Walmart, etc.. then there is a job for you.

But, during the exact same time, middle class manufacturing jobs lost 200k+.

And the market is not showing this due to the Fed pumping in money into the financial system.

When this house of fake cards comes crashing down, all those 401k's your toting will come down as well. And what happened in Cyprus will happen here. it is called "Bailed In".

But you keep up carrying your DNC flag and listening to the state issued figures which are a lie and when it comes crashing down, only hoe you protected yourself.
LostLiberals

Arlington, TX

#113 Jul 26, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Easy-
DOW in Jan 2009 when Obama took over: 8,200
DOW today: 15,555
ALMOST DOUBLE
Any more stupid questions?
Stupid my friend is quoting the DOW as a benchmark of economic health when the Federal Reserve has artificially raised the DOW. Again you make an excellent example of an Obama program that throws taxpayer money into a hole. Your limited recall will probably make you unable to remember a couple of weeks ago when Ben Bernanke made a comment that the money spigot may be closed and the market plunged immediately. As soon as the artificial prop was even threatened to be removed the market went off a cliff - what do you think it is going to do when they really shut off the money. In the dream world you live in they can just artificially raise the market by dumping taxpayer money into it forever - here in the real world it has to stop at some point. Perhaps before you start word stupid around you might want to make sure it doesn't apply to yourself more accurately first. You are a typical low information Obama follower that doesn't even understand your own side's talking points. Head back to the drawing board genius.

Any more stupid answers?
LostLiberals

Arlington, TX

#114 Jul 26, 2013
Kahoki wrote:
<quoted text>
*sigh*
You're not understanding. The market is all based on Fraud. Fake derivatives. Ok these people many have had their 401k's go back up. But, the system is based on fraud.
The entire market right now is only functioning because the Fed is dumping $85B/mo into the financial markets. The house of cars will eventually come down because there is no manufacturing.
The U6 numbers show this. The media and DNC like to go around and wave their flags that they created what 190k jobs last month or something like that? That was about the figure. But, they fail to tell everyone that those jobs are temp and part time jobs in the service sector.
Want to wipe someones ass, flip burgers, be a greeter at Walmart, etc.. then there is a job for you.
But, during the exact same time, middle class manufacturing jobs lost 200k+.
And the market is not showing this due to the Fed pumping in money into the financial system.
When this house of fake cards comes crashing down, all those 401k's your toting will come down as well. And what happened in Cyprus will happen here. it is called "Bailed In".
But you keep up carrying your DNC flag and listening to the state issued figures which are a lie and when it comes crashing down, only hoe you protected yourself.
You are wasting your time trying to educate the genius. He is a blind follower - they make a lot of noise but not much sense.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#115 Jul 26, 2013
Say What What wrote:
<quoted text>So oblama actually won 4% of the vote....47% was paid for with free welfare...promises of never ending unemployment benefits...free phones......FREEEEE Healthcare. If you're a slacking society leeching, brain dead, loser......of course youre gonna vote for the guy promising free shit.
What a moron. A large chunk of that 47% on "free welfare" are racist redneck nascar fans- I doubt they voted for Obama.

Cry all you want, but the guy I voted for won the election.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#116 Jul 26, 2013
Kahoki wrote:
<quoted text>
*sigh*
You're not understanding. The market is all based on Fraud. Fake derivatives. Ok these people many have had their 401k's go back up. But, the system is based on fraud.
The entire market right now is only functioning because the Fed is dumping $85B/mo into the financial markets. The house of cars will eventually come down because there is no manufacturing.
The U6 numbers show this. The media and DNC like to go around and wave their flags that they created what 190k jobs last month or something like that? That was about the figure. But, they fail to tell everyone that those jobs are temp and part time jobs in the service sector.
Want to wipe someones ass, flip burgers, be a greeter at Walmart, etc.. then there is a job for you.
But, during the exact same time, middle class manufacturing jobs lost 200k+.
And the market is not showing this due to the Fed pumping in money into the financial system.
When this house of fake cards comes crashing down, all those 401k's your toting will come down as well. And what happened in Cyprus will happen here. it is called "Bailed In".
But you keep up carrying your DNC flag and listening to the state issued figures which are a lie and when it comes crashing down, only hoe you protected yourself.
Most of my assets get moved into gold & silver bullion once they reach their target- i.e. I invested in coal stocks when they crashed and made a 100% return, so I sold it and bought more bullion. I also have significant assets in real property, guns & ammo, long term food storage, renewable power generation, etc.

I'm more than well protected for the coming crash, just like I was prepared & protected for the crash in 2000 & 2008.

It doesn't take a genius to see these crashes coming.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#117 Jul 26, 2013
LostLiberals wrote:
<quoted text>
Stupid my friend is quoting the DOW as a benchmark of economic health when the Federal Reserve has artificially raised the DOW. Again you make an excellent example of an Obama program that throws taxpayer money into a hole. Your limited recall will probably make you unable to remember a couple of weeks ago when Ben Bernanke made a comment that the money spigot may be closed and the market plunged immediately. As soon as the artificial prop was even threatened to be removed the market went off a cliff - what do you think it is going to do when they really shut off the money. In the dream world you live in they can just artificially raise the market by dumping taxpayer money into it forever - here in the real world it has to stop at some point. Perhaps before you start word stupid around you might want to make sure it doesn't apply to yourself more accurately first. You are a typical low information Obama follower that doesn't even understand your own side's talking points. Head back to the drawing board genius.
Any more stupid answers?
And yet I've profited off the stock market every year since I've been investing (20+ years). That's how I've managed to be retired since age 38 when I retired from the military and I live with ZERO debt- not even a mortgage.

Call me what you want, but I won't have to work another day of my life no matter what happens with the market or the economy.
chisholm

Columbus, OH

#118 Jul 26, 2013
Say What What wrote:
<quoted text>So oblama actually won 4% of the vote....47% was paid for with free welfare...promises of never ending unemployment benefits...free phones......FREEEEE Healthcare. If you're a slacking society leeching, brain dead, loser......of course youre gonna vote for the guy promising free shit.
Not a word of that is true, which makes you either a huge liar or Topix' biggest fool.
chisholm

Columbus, OH

#119 Jul 26, 2013
Kahoki wrote:
<quoted text>
*sigh*
You're not understanding. The market is all based on Fraud. Fake derivatives. Ok these people many have had their 401k's go back up. But, the system is based on fraud.
The entire market right now is only functioning because the Fed is dumping $85B/mo into the financial markets. The house of cars will eventually come down because there is no manufacturing.
The U6 numbers show this. The media and DNC like to go around and wave their flags that they created what 190k jobs last month or something like that? That was about the figure. But, they fail to tell everyone that those jobs are temp and part time jobs in the service sector.
Want to wipe someones ass, flip burgers, be a greeter at Walmart, etc.. then there is a job for you.
But, during the exact same time, middle class manufacturing jobs lost 200k+.
And the market is not showing this due to the Fed pumping in money into the financial system.
When this house of fake cards comes crashing down, all those 401k's your toting will come down as well. And what happened in Cyprus will happen here. it is called "Bailed In".
But you keep up carrying your DNC flag and listening to the state issued figures which are a lie and when it comes crashing down, only hoe you protected yourself.
"Middle class manufacturing jobs" are never again going to be what they once were. The era of big industry and big-paying unionized jobs is gone, and Conservatives have done their share to help kill it by liberalizing regulations, allowing jobs to be shipped overseas, attacking unions, etc.

Even as Obama is pushing for green manufacturing, the right and Republicans are trying to kill THOSE jobs. And their acceptance of the Sequester and spending cuts will likely kill millions more.

So maybe instead of jerking the knee for yet another attack on the DNC, you could see this as America's problem, one caused by BOTH parties?

Just a suggestion.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#120 Jul 26, 2013
chisholm wrote:
<quoted text>

Even as Obama is pushing for green manufacturing, the right and Republicans are trying to kill THOSE jobs.
Many of these green jobs are tax subsidized. An example is Tesla Motors which only turned a profit because California twisted it's tax code in such a way to make sure Tesla would show a profit.
.
If alternative energy can make a profit using only the typical tax deductions any business gets, fine.
.
If Obama has to go after China for dumping solar panels below cost, fair enough. But a deal like Tesla got is something Republicans do not support.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#121 Jul 26, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
<quoted text>
Many of these green jobs are tax subsidized. An example is Tesla Motors which only turned a profit because California twisted it's tax code in such a way to make sure Tesla would show a profit.
.
If alternative energy can make a profit using only the typical tax deductions any business gets, fine.
.
If Obama has to go after China for dumping solar panels below cost, fair enough. But a deal like Tesla got is something Republicans do not support.
Stop subsidizing oil & coal & gas and start charging those companies for the ACTUAL cost of their environmental impact and the cost in military support, and then we'll see just how affordable fossil fuels are.
chisholm

Columbus, OH

#122 Jul 26, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
<quoted text>
Many of these green jobs are tax subsidized. An example is Tesla Motors which only turned a profit because California twisted it's tax code in such a way to make sure Tesla would show a profit.
.
If alternative energy can make a profit using only the typical tax deductions any business gets, fine.
.
If Obama has to go after China for dumping solar panels below cost, fair enough. But a deal like Tesla got is something Republicans do not support.
Like I said, he's pushing for green jobs. What do tax subsidies have to do with it? Many mainstream businesses, including big corporations, get tax subsidies and other breaks. Do you complain when that happens?

No, you do not.

Got any proof California "twisted its tax code" for Tesla? What do you have against them anyway? Why do righties hate green businesses? Just anti-environmentalism, partisan hatred of Dems, what?

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#124 Jul 26, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop subsidizing oil & coal & gas and start charging those companies for the ACTUAL cost of their environmental impact and the cost in military support, and then we'll see just how affordable fossil fuels are.
Is there no line from the left you consider too lame?
.
Oil gets tax deductions typical of most industries. The special depreciation was designed for small producers to keep low output wells in production.
.
Now we can send millions into your neighborhood where they can eat organic, live natural and then we'll see what you have to say about environmental impact.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#125 Jul 26, 2013
chisholm wrote:
<quoted text>
Like I said, he's pushing for green jobs. What do tax subsidies have to do with it? Many mainstream businesses, including big corporations, get tax subsidies and other breaks. Do you complain when that happens?
No, you do not.
Got any proof California "twisted its tax code" for Tesla? What do you have against them anyway? Why do righties hate green businesses? Just anti-environmentalism, partisan hatred of Dems, what?
I'll allow you to research Tesla's special tax arrangement, it's been in the news.
.
I am environmental, but I take other economic issues into consideration. I have complained about other subsidies but the liberal media likes to blur subsidies with real business expense deductions.
.
Defense industries are a good example. Some government business has to be steered towards them to keep certain operations alive and ready to go in case there is a war or a major military operation.
.
Offering contracts for equipment that isn't needed is a subsidy.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#126 Jul 26, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
<quoted text>
Is there no line from the left you consider too lame?
.
Oil gets tax deductions typical of most industries. The special depreciation was designed for small producers to keep low output wells in production.
.
Now we can send millions into your neighborhood where they can eat organic, live natural and then we'll see what you have to say about environmental impact.
Oil also gets TRILLIONS in environmental & healthcare & war costs forgiven by the govt.

The sheeple will stay in the city because they're stupid enough to believe there is an endless supply of cheap oil & gas. By they time they figure out the truth, it'll be too late and they'll be stuck in their deathtraps.

I will celebrate!
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#127 Jul 26, 2013
Come on Putin, teach him a lesson.
Liberals R Defective

Canton, OH

#128 Jul 26, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
If Obama gets all the blame for the current economy regardless of who controls congress, then the same applies to Bush.
Yes, I'm well aware the GOPasaurs oppose any and all regulation of the financial & mortgage industry, which led directly to the economic collapse.
I didn't know that Barney Frank was a Republican. I always remember him a a queer democrat socialist. He was the one who stopped the Bush administration from investigating Fannie and Freddie. Good try at rewriting history, Sheepie. Just remember that the truth will set you free.
STD free

United States

#129 Jul 26, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>What a moron. A large chunk of that 47% on "free welfare" are racist redneck nascar fans- I doubt they voted for Obama.

Cry all you want, but the guy I voted for won the election.
Obama is out in 2016. Our Constitution limits Presidency to 2 terms. Oh damn no Obama Care, phones turned off and people may actually have to get a job.
STD free

United States

#130 Jul 26, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>And yet I've profited off the stock market every year since I've been investing (20+ years). That's how I've managed to be retired since age 38 when I retired from the military and I live with ZERO debt- not even a mortgage.

Call me what you want, but I won't have to work another day of my life no matter what happens with the market or the economy.
Congrats I well on my way too. People are just lazy and would rather sit back and complain. I had a strong feeling house of cards about to come crashing was the 401Ks.
See the Light

El Paso, TX

#134 Jul 26, 2013
He's focused 19 times before, when will he get it right?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#136 Jul 27, 2013
STD free wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama is out in 2016. Our Constitution limits Presidency to 2 terms. Oh damn no Obama Care, phones turned off and people may actually have to get a job.
And Hillary will take over in Jan 2017......

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