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Arpaio investigates Obama's birth certificate

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America's self-proclaimed toughest sheriff finds himself entangled these days in his own thorny legal troubles: a federal grand jury probe over alleged abuse of power, Justice Department accusations of racial profiling and revelations that his department didn't adequately investigate hundreds of Arizona sex-crime cases.

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Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#782 Apr 29, 2012
Conservative girl wrote:
<quoted text>If we are to believe that Obama overturned his adoption in Indonesia, then he would be a naturalized American today. Still ineligible to be President, but he is regardless, because Pelosi forged the eligibility document for he to be on the Democratic Party ticket in 2008.
Obama's birth certificates are forgeries, it has been proven they are photo-shop generated. I would put money on it the only certificate he has is foreign. But conclusive proof will not come out until he is gone. Then and only then, will these ignorant Liberals hold their heads in shame.
BIRTHER NUTJOB.

“It matters but not very much”

Since: Oct 07

Houston, TX

#783 Apr 29, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
Documentation of the President's birth has been provided by the state of Hawaii.
No, it hasn't. The original document has never been produced nor has any certified copy of it been produced. Nothing official without doubt has been produced or examined. A state official (one without a halo, by the way) in Hawaii only SAID the state has those documents. It has never produced them for examination. Obama has never produced any original, valid document or a certified copy of an original document. What was produced and claimed to be a copy of the original was proven to be a forgery - twice.

I believe that official in Hawaii has resigned since. And the governor said he saw Obama's name on a list of names. That's it.

“It matters but not very much”

Since: Oct 07

Houston, TX

#784 Apr 29, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
CG--Adoption, overturned adoption--all irrelevant.
The President is a natural-born citizen by virtue of being born in the state of Hawaii to an American citizen.
Once one is born an American citizen they retain such citizenship unless and until as an adult they make a choice to renounce that citizenship.
You got any proof that Barack Obama as an adult ever renounced his US citizenship?
I didn't think so.
You are absolutely incorrect in your assumptions. Prove all that you say above. Give us the laws for 1961. Show us the proof in the form of a birth certificate from Hawaii.

There is no proof that Obama was born ANYwhere at all. But Obama says he was born in Hawaii, so it must be true according to you, but Obama can't produce proof. But he SAYS it's true. Nice cult religion you have going on for yourself, there.

What's more, you fall for his bull. He hides all his records so the truth can't be seen and verified or refuted, yet you say prove what we claim. You know we can't because Obama has all his records sealed, hidden, expunged, erased, or removed. YOU, then claim you are correct without a shred of proof - on faith alone.

And YOU want us to believe in YOUR religion? LOL! Religion is based on a belief in God, not Obama. But, to each his own god, I suppose. My god in this is truth that requires proof, and Obama isn't telling it or providing evidence of it. He's a politician and is nowhere even close to being a decent human being, so his word alone means nothing.

“Don't trust the internet!”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#785 Apr 29, 2012
Independent patriot wrote:
<quoted text>
No, it hasn't. The original document has never been produced nor has any certified copy of it been produced. Nothing official without doubt has been produced or examined. A state official (one without a halo, by the way) in Hawaii only SAID the state has those documents. It has never produced them for examination. Obama has never produced any original, valid document or a certified copy of an original document. What was produced and claimed to be a copy of the original was proven to be a forgery - twice.
I believe that official in Hawaii has resigned since. And the governor said he saw Obama's name on a list of names. That's it.
1) You made the claim of resignation before (including an accusation that it was due to having stood behind the Hawaiian bc). You have yet to offer an substantiation for that belief. FAIL

2) There has never been any "proof" that either of the documents is a forgery. There has been a lot of speculation about what people have seen on the internet. This has been provided only as a convenience to the birther movement--which has never established probable cause or any other reason that they are entitled to view the actual certified documents. FAIL again.

“Don't trust the internet!”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#786 Apr 29, 2012
Independent patriot wrote:
<quoted text>
You are absolutely incorrect in your assumptions. Prove all that you say above. Give us the laws for 1961. Show us the proof in the form of a birth certificate from Hawaii.
There is no proof that Obama was born ANYwhere at all. But Obama says he was born in Hawaii, so it must be true according to you, but Obama can't produce proof. But he SAYS it's true. Nice cult religion you have going on for yourself, there.
What's more, you fall for his bull. He hides all his records so the truth can't be seen and verified or refuted, yet you say prove what we claim. You know we can't because Obama has all his records sealed, hidden, expunged, erased, or removed. YOU, then claim you are correct without a shred of proof - on faith alone.
And YOU want us to believe in YOUR religion? LOL! Religion is based on a belief in God, not Obama. But, to each his own god, I suppose. My god in this is truth that requires proof, and Obama isn't telling it or providing evidence of it. He's a politician and is nowhere even close to being a decent human being, so his word alone means nothing.
The State of Hawaii, though duly authorized personnel, have provided certified documentation of his birth there.

At least two courts have ruled that Obama's birth to an American parent is also consistent with applicable laws in determining the state of his citizenship at birth.

“It matters but not very much”

Since: Oct 07

Houston, TX

#787 Apr 29, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
1) You made the claim of resignation before (including an accusation that it was due to having stood behind the Hawaiian bc). You have yet to offer an substantiation for that belief. FAIL
2) There has never been any "proof" that either of the documents is a forgery. There has been a lot of speculation about what people have seen on the internet. This has been provided only as a convenience to the birther movement--which has never established probable cause or any other reason that they are entitled to view the actual certified documents. FAIL again.
Please post where I claimed the official quit because of Obama.

There is adequate proof that the documents are forgeries. Probable cause has been established. You just don't accept it because you are an Obama zombie and can't stand the thought that he got caught in his lies. Makes you and his other worshipers look like fools.

You just can't accept that at this point, because of the valid doubts, the hiding of records, and lies from the Obama camp/administration, only the original birth certificate that can be authenticated by an independent forensic team will convince us of Obama's citizenship and qualifications to run and serve as president. Even then, however, his Indonesian citizenship is in question, because Presidents can't have allegiance to two countries, and therefore, can't hold dual citizenship. No one knows if he ever gave up his Indonesian citizenship because he has sealed all his records.

Sorry, but the only failure here is YOU and your Obama religion. You just can't accept that your god is most likely a cheat, a liar, and a usurper. Let's not forget traitor. You must work for him.

“It matters but not very much”

Since: Oct 07

Houston, TX

#788 Apr 29, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
The State of Hawaii, though duly authorized personnel, have provided certified documentation of his birth there.
At least two courts have ruled that Obama's birth to an American parent is also consistent with applicable laws in determining the state of his citizenship at birth.
Where is that proof from Hawaii? Show us, please.

Not if that child was born on foreign soil and the mother (the citizen) was not old enough to be qualified to register her child as a US citizen born on foreign soil.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#789 Apr 29, 2012
Independent patriot wrote:
<quoted text>
No, it hasn't. The original document has never been produced nor has any certified copy of it been produced. Nothing official without doubt has been produced or examined. A state official (one without a halo, by the way) in Hawaii only SAID the state has those documents. It has never produced them for examination. Obama has never produced any original, valid document or a certified copy of an original document. What was produced and claimed to be a copy of the original was proven to be a forgery - twice.
I believe that official in Hawaii has resigned since. And the governor said he saw Obama's name on a list of names. That's it.
BIRTHER NUTJOB

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#790 Apr 29, 2012
Independent patriot wrote:
<quoted text>
Where is that proof from Hawaii? Show us, please.
Not if that child was born on foreign soil and the mother (the citizen) was not old enough to be qualified to register her child as a US citizen born on foreign soil.
BIRTHER NUTJOB

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#791 Apr 29, 2012
Independent patriot wrote:
<quoted text>
Please post where I claimed the official quit because of Obama.
There is adequate proof that the documents are forgeries. Probable cause has been established. You just don't accept it because you are an Obama zombie and can't stand the thought that he got caught in his lies. Makes you and his other worshipers look like fools.
You just can't accept that at this point, because of the valid doubts, the hiding of records, and lies from the Obama camp/administration, only the original birth certificate that can be authenticated by an independent forensic team will convince us of Obama's citizenship and qualifications to run and serve as president. Even then, however, his Indonesian citizenship is in question, because Presidents can't have allegiance to two countries, and therefore, can't hold dual citizenship. No one knows if he ever gave up his Indonesian citizenship because he has sealed all his records.
Sorry, but the only failure here is YOU and your Obama religion. You just can't accept that your god is most likely a cheat, a liar, and a usurper. Let's not forget traitor. You must work for him.
BIRTHER NUTJOB

“It matters but not very much”

Since: Oct 07

Houston, TX

#792 Apr 29, 2012
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>BIRTHER NUTJOB
Polly want a cracker?

“Don't trust the internet!”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#793 Apr 29, 2012
Independent patriot wrote:
<quoted text>
Please post where I claimed the official quit because of Obama.
There is adequate proof that the documents are forgeries. Probable cause has been established. You just don't accept it because you are an Obama zombie and can't stand the thought that he got caught in his lies. Makes you and his other worshipers look like fools.
You just can't accept that at this point, because of the valid doubts, the hiding of records, and lies from the Obama camp/administration, only the original birth certificate that can be authenticated by an independent forensic team will convince us of Obama's citizenship and qualifications to run and serve as president. Even then, however, his Indonesian citizenship is in question, because Presidents can't have allegiance to two countries, and therefore, can't hold dual citizenship. No one knows if he ever gave up his Indonesian citizenship because he has sealed all his records.
Sorry, but the only failure here is YOU and your Obama religion. You just can't accept that your god is most likely a cheat, a liar, and a usurper. Let's not forget traitor. You must work for him.
It doesn't matter what I accept (or you and your fellow birthers, either). It matters that duly authorized officials of state and federal government have accepted the President, based on documentation presented to them (which was NOT presented via internet) as a natural-born citizen of the United States.

“Don't trust the internet!”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#794 Apr 29, 2012
Independent patriot wrote:
<quoted text>
Where is that proof from Hawaii? Show us, please.
Not if that child was born on foreign soil and the mother (the citizen) was not old enough to be qualified to register her child as a US citizen born on foreign soil.
There is no such thing as the registration process which you claim that Obama's mother was not old enough to participate in.

And you cannot prove otherwise.

“It matters but not very much”

Since: Oct 07

Houston, TX

#795 Apr 29, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no such thing as the registration process which you claim that Obama's mother was not old enough to participate in.
And you cannot prove otherwise.
There might not be now, but there was when Obama was born, and that is what would decide his current citizenship based on birth registration alone.

You don't seem to understand the fact that laws are not retroactive unless they specifically state that they are.

“It matters but not very much”

Since: Oct 07

Houston, TX

#796 Apr 29, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
It doesn't matter what I accept (or you and your fellow birthers, either). It matters that duly authorized officials of state and federal government have accepted the President, based on documentation presented to them (which was NOT presented via internet) as a natural-born citizen of the United States.
That, of course, can change at any time.

“Don't trust the internet!”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#797 Apr 29, 2012
Independent patriot wrote:
<quoted text>
There might not be now, but there was when Obama was born, and that is what would decide his current citizenship based on birth registration alone.
You don't seem to understand the fact that laws are not retroactive unless they specifically state that they are.
You don't seem to understand that just because you want something to be true doesn't make it so.

If you think that there was a law in place at the time Obama was born that precluded him from citizenship, cite it.

And then show how it applies to someone born in Hawaii to a mother who was a US citizen.

“Don't trust the internet!”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#798 Apr 29, 2012
Independent patriot wrote:
<quoted text>
That, of course, can change at any time.
Well, you be sure and let us know when it does, OK?

“WestieLover”

Since: Apr 12

The city that I reside

#799 Apr 29, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
CG--Adoption, overturned adoption--all irrelevant.
The President is a natural-born citizen by virtue of being born in the state of Hawaii to an American citizen.
Once one is born an American citizen they retain such citizenship unless and until as an adult they make a choice to renounce that citizenship.
You got any proof that Barack Obama as an adult ever renounced his US citizenship?
I didn't think so.
Ask his sister on Facebook she said that he was adopted in Indonesia by her father, his step-father. Obama is a Indonesian. Show me the papers where he surrendered his Indonesian passport/citizenship, and applied for Dual British Kenyan American citizenship again? And that would make him naturalized a second time around. Still not eligible to be President. He was an adult when he traveled to Indonesia to visit mom, and on to Pakistan to visit friends. So if after that he renounced his Indonesian citizenship where is the document? Where is the naturalized American B.C.? It doesn't exist, because the documents he and his fellow Progressives have concocted are forgeries. Your prince is a fraud!! And you are a putz!!

“WestieLover”

Since: Apr 12

The city that I reside

#800 Apr 29, 2012
Independent patriot wrote:
<quoted text>
Where is that proof from Hawaii? Show us, please.
Not if that child was born on foreign soil and the mother (the citizen) was not old enough to be qualified to register her child as a US citizen born on foreign soil.
He can't because both certificates Obama has put forth on his website and elsewhere are both forensically proven forgeries.
That is an inconvenient truth for Liberals.
They cannot accept it, for to do so it would damage their perception of what is truthful and false, their very beliefs system.They must at all cost follow the story line, anything else assaults their comfort zone and all we hear are rants of "birther nut jobs".
It is their coping mechanism in play. Poor things.
Billy Ringo

New York, NY

#801 Apr 29, 2012
This birth certificate thing is a winning issue !!!!!

Barny Fife should offer his teabagging services to Willard - it's a hot campaign issue ....

Could be ...do I dare say it ... a Game Changer..

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