Health care: Republicans aim to halt 'Obamacare'

Aug 22, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: WJLA-TV Arlington

More than a third of House Republicans urged their leader Thursday to trigger a government shutdown rather than fund the implementation of the health care overhaul they call "Obamacare."

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Dr Butler

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hello Moto Robotopix! heo is u doing get fund editing Hument Bhaving yet?!!!;-000
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LOL. Put Mitt in the Whitehouse while you're at it.
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There is nothing simple about Obamacare. It runs more than 2,000 pages. It has spawned more than 10,000 pages of regulations.

Recent polls show 54 percent of Americans oppose the law, 53 percent want opponents to “continue trying to change or stop it,” and 56 percent want to return what we had before.

Unions that supported it are now “frustrated and angry” over its unintended consequences. One such union is calling for repeal.
Dr Butler

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Lance Winslow wrote:
LOL. Put Mitt in the Whitehouse while you're at it.
Pastor Mitt or Bishop>Dr. Obama = McSame!!!;-00h, Lance U is Califorear the climp!! ;-0000
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Scary times. UPS just announced that all Spouses will no longer be covered by their employees policys. They stated that the implimentation and "new rules" forced on them by the ACA will cost $60,000,000 in increased costs for their workers coverage so they had to abandon spousal coverage.

Tragic times ahead for Working Americans and their Employers if the ACA implimentation is not stopped

Google... UPS/Spousal Coverage... and weep.

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Progressive Schmugressive wrote:
There is nothing simple about Obamacare. It runs more than 2,000 pages. It has spawned more than 10,000 pages of regulations.
Recent polls show 54 percent of Americans oppose the law, 53 percent want opponents to “continue trying to change or stop it,” and 56 percent want to return what we had before.
Unions that supported it are now “frustrated and angry” over its unintended consequences. One such union is calling for repeal.
Going off what you just said...

If the law is 2,000 pages long and has spawned 10,000 pages of regulation HOW MANY of the 54% of Americans who oppose it have read all 12,000 pages?

How many have read even ONE of the 12,000 pages?

Half the American people are utterly mind controlled by FoxNews. They have NO IDEA what health care is.

Hell, one of the Tea Party candidates in 2010 ran opposing Obamacare and during his Congressional Orientation was complaining about how he wouldn't have health care coverage between leaving his old job and taking his new one.

He LITERALLY RAN ON opposing that. Then COMPLAINED that he wasn't getting it.

I would bet that if you gave all 54% of these people healthcare for one year then told them you were taking it away, they would ALL Fight tooth and nail to keep it.

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Dane Thorsen wrote:
Scary times. UPS just announced that all Spouses will no longer be covered by their employees policys. They stated that the implimentation and "new rules" forced on them by the ACA will cost $60,000,000 in increased costs for their workers coverage so they had to abandon spousal coverage.
Tragic times ahead for Working Americans and their Employers if the ACA implimentation is not stopped
Google... UPS/Spousal Coverage... and weep.
We need to transition away from the model of employers paying for health care.

It was an accident that we got into that in the first place.
It makes no sense.
It has stagnated wages.
It makes "good" companies less competitive than "bad" ones.

Free up ALL companies from paying health care costs. Watch as profits and salaries soar.

Transition everyone to a centrally based health care system. Allow people to purchase additional health care plans if they want them.

America benefits. Americans benefit. Companies benefit.
Lance Winslow

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Nuggin wrote:
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We need to transition away from the model of employers paying for health care.
It was an accident that we got into that in the first place.
It makes no sense.
It has stagnated wages.
It makes "good" companies less competitive than "bad" ones.
Free up ALL companies from paying health care costs. Watch as profits and salaries soar.
Transition everyone to a centrally based health care system. Allow people to purchase additional health care plans if they want them.
America benefits. Americans benefit. Companies benefit.
Every Republican led corporation in America would be pleased to drop health care benefits for employees. That's why there are laws requiring it.

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Lance Winslow wrote:
<quoted text>Every Republican led corporation in America would be pleased to drop health care benefits for employees. That's why there are laws requiring it.
There aren't.

Health Care wasn't something that was provided by businesses until WWII when there was a salary freeze put in place by the government.

Businesses which were looking to recruit people had to offer some other form of benefit.

At first, this was fine.

However, over the last few decades the cost of health insurance has skyrocketed.

As a result, employers have been paying more for health insurance, and not providing employees with wage increases.

This is why wages are stagnant compared to things like housing costs, car cost, etc.

Move health care to a single central provider and you instantly do away with ridiculous sweetheart deals with specific hospitals. You do away with "in plan" "out of plan" providers. You give the single payer MASSIVE bargaining power to reduce the cost of everything.

You also get a central authority which can prevent the "$500 for gauze" billing.

Then, if people want special a la cart insurance on top of that, they can buy it seperately.

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Nazicare is a train wreck of huge proportions put together haphazardly by freedom hating Nazicrats.

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Eighthman wrote:
Nazicare is a train wreck of huge proportions put together haphazardly by freedom hating Nazicrats.
And you can back this up with what evidence....

Oh right, none.

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We have to pay for the plan to see how much it costs.

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So What does this mean? That we have to have socialized medicine? If 54% of Americans don't want it, shouldn't we get rid of it? And BTW I hear much higher percentages than that!
My president was elected by dead people!
Regards, Terri
Nuggin wrote:
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Going off what you just said...
If the law is 2,000 pages long and has spawned 10,000 pages of regulation HOW MANY of the 54% of Americans who oppose it have read all 12,000 pages?
How many have read even ONE of the 12,000 pages?
Half the American people are utterly mind controlled by FoxNews. They have NO IDEA what health care is.
Hell, one of the Tea Party candidates in 2010 ran opposing Obamacare and during his Congressional Orientation was complaining about how he wouldn't have health care coverage between leaving his old job and taking his new one.
He LITERALLY RAN ON opposing that. Then COMPLAINED that he wasn't getting it.
I would bet that if you gave all 54% of these people healthcare for one year then told them you were taking it away, they would ALL Fight tooth and nail to keep it.

“Headed toward the cliff”

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The GOPasaurs are crapping their pants because every day there is another news report that Obamacare is going to be a success, and they have no alternative except "die quickly".

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Oh Well, We'll just have to pass it to find out what's in it! Then we'll dump it! Why bother! Dump it now!
My president was elected by dead people!
Regards, Terri
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And you can back this up with what evidence....
Oh right, none.

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TerryE wrote:
So What does this mean? That we have to have socialized medicine? If 54% of Americans don't want it, shouldn't we get rid of it? And BTW I hear much higher percentages than that!
My president was elected by dead people!
Regards, Terri
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Your president was not elected by dead people.
Romney and the GOP flat out told Americans he wasn't interested in representing the poor, non-whites, non-religious, women, veterans, disabled people or the retired.

That doesn't leave many people left.

And, we are not a "majority rules" society. If we were, Bush would never have been elected since he never carried the popular vote. And, when his approval rating was in the 20s, he would have been booted from office.

What 54% want is irrelevant, especially since NONE of them can actually articulate what their problem with Obamacare is.

Remember the Tea Party signs? "Keep your government hands off my social security".

People are stupid.

“your life is great”

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too bad the GOP-TP took the single payer option out of the ACA.

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A Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF) tracking survey from March found skepticism about “Obamacare” but widespread approval of actual Obamacare policies. Over 75 percent of respondents like the law’s insurance subsidies; 80 percent favor the statewide insurance marketplaces; a staggering 88 percent approve of the small business tax credits to help pay for employees’ health coverage.

(rut-roh, people don't know anything about the ACA)
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a remarkable encounter between Reina Diaz-Dempsey, a Kentucky public health worker signing people up for insurance coverage under health care reform, and a middle-aged man who approached her booth at the State Fair. After Diaz-Dempsey explained that he will either qualify for tax credits to buy insurance through Kynect (the state’s new insurance marketplace) or an expanded Medicaid pool in October, the man seemed pleased and mused,“This beats Obamacare, I hope.”

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Your cutesey way of finding agreement with and through either non existent or very obscure entities always amuses me. Tell me, did this Kaiser family Foundation do it's polling in the ghetto? And did they pay their taxes last year? Why do you ask? you say! Well if they're wealthy, then they're part of the much maligned 1% and just doing it for whatever favors they can get from the Obama Regime. Much like Warren Buffett. And one senile citizen does not a majority make. Most people that are not the losers that you parade around as "normal" despise the Govt and don't want anything to do with them. From the Motor vehicle Dept to the Post office, the Govt is hated! The govt is only there to push us around and steal our money!
My president was elected by dead people!
Regards, Terri
anneutral wrote:
A Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF) tracking survey from March found skepticism about “Obamacare” but widespread approval of actual Obamacare policies. Over 75 percent of respondents like the law’s insurance subsidies; 80 percent favor the statewide insurance marketplaces; a staggering 88 percent approve of the small business tax credits to help pay for employees’ health coverage.
(rut-roh, people don't know anything about the ACA)
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a remarkable encounter between Reina Diaz-Dempsey, a Kentucky public health worker signing people up for insurance coverage under health care reform, and a middle-aged man who approached her booth at the State Fair. After Diaz-Dempsey explained that he will either qualify for tax credits to buy insurance through Kynect (the state’s new insurance marketplace) or an expanded Medicaid pool in October, the man seemed pleased and mused,“This beats Obamacare, I hope.”
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At least now we know which third of the House should be replaced with more responsible legislators.

It borders on treason to threaten to shut down the government of the U.S. because you don't like a law your OWN HOUSE PASSED.

Obamacare has simply become a way for the radical right to attack the government. They need to be stopped.

Americans, the GOP does NOT want you to have health care...does NOT want you to have the option of getting individual coverage at a lower price...does NOT want to eliminate denial of insurance due to pre-existing conditions...does NOT want any reform at all of a collapsing, corrupt system.

Remember that in 2014, please.

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