Texas town's rental ban to get second...

Texas town's rental ban to get second hearing

There are 330 comments on the The Kansas City Star story from Sep 18, 2012, titled Texas town's rental ban to get second hearing. In it, The Kansas City Star reports that:

A Dallas suburb's long, expensive fight to ban illegal immigrants from renting homes will get perhaps its most important hearing Wednesday before a largely conservative group of judges with the power to influence the national immigration debate.Farmers Branch was sued four years ago after it passed an ordinance allowing the city building inspector ... (more)

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Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#327 Oct 19, 2012
barry wrote:
<quoted text>that is the way things should work in a perfect world. however the facts are that a court has already heard these arguments and already agreed with the defense attorney's assertions. it is up to the "building inspector" to make the decision. this case is an appeal of a decision not of the facts.
and yes, my assertion that once the gov is granted permission to decide who can live where that eventually they will decide what we can buy and where we can travel and where we can go to church seems like fear mongering. whoever these are not new concepts. they exist in our world today and our country has been down similar roads before. so be careful what powers you wish to grant to government because they will always want a little more.
In a perfect world we would not need laws.
A judge agreeing with the attorney’s argument as we all know depends on the judge’s political affiliation. The fact is the federal government determines immigration status not a building inspector or any state or local official. It is true that the local officials would actually issue the permit based on what the federal government says. If the federal government cannot or will not issue that information to the officials then the officials have no choice but to issue the permit or face legal action by the applicant, the state and the federal government. Our system has checks and balances and for a judge to rule based on what might happen rather than based on the law and the facts is wrong. Any law can be used improperly and abused but there are other laws to deal with that. If officials deny permits without cause they can and should be prosecuted but to throw out a law because it might be abused is like terminating a pregnancy because the baby might grow up to be a serial killer.

Since: May 11

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#328 Oct 20, 2012
I'm a landlord. I own several rental properties.

I'll rent to anyone who can pay his rent.

I don't care if he is a citizen, tourist, student, on an H-1B visa, legal immigrant, illegal immigrant, or space alien.

It's not my job to play cop or border patrol agent.

If some guy named Pedro wants to rent one of my units, and has a job and can pay the rent, it ain't my damned job to ascertain his immigration status.
barry

Henagar, AL

#329 Oct 21, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
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Call it what ever you want..........LOL
My opinion is that anyone that even rents to one of you scum suckers should have there house confiscated........
Any business that hires scum suckers like you should be confiscated.......
Any scum sucker like you that is caught in the USA should be sentenced to 30 years of hard labor.......
All children should be confiscated and put up for adoption.......
Then pond scum suckers like you would think twice about entering the USA illegally or over staying your visa......
"scum sucker", "pond scum sucker"; classy, real classy.
barry

Henagar, AL

#330 Oct 21, 2012
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
<quoted text>
In a perfect world we would not need laws.
A judge agreeing with the attorney’s argument as we all know depends on the judge’s political affiliation. The fact is the federal government determines immigration status not a building inspector or any state or local official. It is true that the local officials would actually issue the permit based on what the federal government says. If the federal government cannot or will not issue that information to the officials then the officials have no choice but to issue the permit or face legal action by the applicant, the state and the federal government. Our system has checks and balances and for a judge to rule based on what might happen rather than based on the law and the facts is wrong. Any law can be used improperly and abused but there are other laws to deal with that. If officials deny permits without cause they can and should be prosecuted but to throw out a law because it might be abused is like terminating a pregnancy because the baby might grow up to be a serial killer.
it's still an appeal. the facts have been determined. the building inspector will make the decision on the value of a persons legal status. that is the case and the question the court needs to uphold or reject. you don't think that a building inspector could not be political also?

it is not about "might be abused" it is about will be abused and will lead to other activities that will require a permit by the gov.
freebird

Long Beach, CA

#331 Oct 21, 2012
libertarian4321 wrote:
I'm a landlord. I own several rental properties.
I'll rent to anyone who can pay his rent.
I don't care if he is a citizen, tourist, student, on an H-1B visa, legal immigrant, illegal immigrant, or space alien.
It's not my job to play cop or border patrol agent.
If some guy named Pedro wants to rent one of my units, and has a job and can pay the rent, it ain't my damned job to ascertain his immigration status.
Your point? That as long as you benefit from the illegal alien [email protected] the rest of us?
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#332 Oct 21, 2012
barry wrote:
<quoted text>it's still an appeal. the facts have been determined. the building inspector will make the decision on the value of a persons legal status. that is the case and the question the court needs to uphold or reject. you don't think that a building inspector could not be political also?
it is not about "might be abused" it is about will be abused and will lead to other activities that will require a permit by the gov.
So guilty until proven innocent. If the building inspector unfairly denys a permit he can be sued and/or end up in jail. Yet you believe that he will risk that just to keep “the wrong type of people “ out.
As I said before, I have needed a permit to move in and out of every place I have lived for over 30 years but I still do not need a permit to go to church as you suggest will happen and I do not see that day comming just because a few towns require proof of immigration status when applying for a moving or occupancy permit..
barry

Henagar, AL

#333 Oct 21, 2012
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
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So guilty until proven innocent. If the building inspector unfairly denys a permit he can be sued and/or end up in jail. Yet you believe that he will risk that just to keep “the wrong type of people “ out.
As I said before, I have needed a permit to move in and out of every place I have lived for over 30 years but I still do not need a permit to go to church as you suggest will happen and I do not see that day comming just because a few towns require proof of immigration status when applying for a moving or occupancy permit..
your moving permit was in no way a permission to move. it only was an acknowledgement that you had given the required information to your municipality. no one is ever denied permission to move if they apply for a moving permit.
sadly and you know it is true there are countries in this world who do regulate church attendance. we will probably not see it in our life time but this step just opens a door to take a step closer in any direction that gov wishes to take in regulating our freedoms.

as for your first comment, the building inspector will make a mistake and will be sued and the town then will abandon the law. however there will be innocent victims along the way before some one with the means and the courage will do it.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

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#334 Oct 21, 2012
barry wrote:
<quoted text>"scum sucker", "pond scum sucker"; classy, real classy.
Me classy?????

Not in a hundred years..........

You pond scum?? Everyday of your pitiful life

“Facts”

Since: May 08

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#335 Oct 21, 2012
nym8387 wrote:
<quoted text>Barry is the most delusional person in the world. This dude is just pissed because he won't be able to get away with extortion and tax evasion anymore.
He most likely one of the criminals Mexico kicked out of Mexico

Since: May 11

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#336 Oct 29, 2012
freebird wrote:
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Your point? That as long as you benefit from the illegal alien [email protected] the rest of us?
I really don't have a problem with "illegals," even if I wasn't renting to them.

The only problem with them is that SOME of them use welfare benefits, but that is on US, not them. We should eliminate welfare benefits for illegal aliens AND American citizens.

But I have no problem with people coming here just to work. If some guy from Mexico is willing to cross the Rio Grande and come here (Texas) to pick watermelons in 105 degree heat for a low wage, I say let him come, because I'm sure as Hell not going to do that work.

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