Cost of gas rises to record, and could go higher

[eternal cynic]

redding moose wrote:

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the falling US$ has no impact on what is paid for a barrel of crude oil... but for a few circumstances like iran, oil on the global mkt is traded in dollars, so there is NO ADDED INCREMENTAL COST...

Your theory eliminates the possibility of prices being set higher in response to the declining value of the dollar.

Rising gas prices may be just what we need to finally make alternate fuels a reality. Preferably hydrogen.

[Disgusted American]

...and the Gov't Still WON'T disclose the NOTES from Cheney's Energy meeting..2-3yrs ago...hmmmmm...hiding something Im sure! EVERYTHING the GOP has done the last 7.5yrs has Crapped all over America,it's Constitution,it's people...and our very way of life!

[CA Native]

thank God i work from home or i'd be working just to put gas in my car.

[Pray to Zeus]

Clinton fucked Monica, but Georgie boy fucked the whole country. I knew we were in trouble when I saw W holding hands with that Arab king wearing a dress. They clearly are in bed together. I think we need 2 gas prices, one for the people who put that a** in office, and a more resonable price for the rest of us. If we put a big oil man in the white house, what else would you expect?

[LORAX]

Did anyone catch the press conference where GW was dumbfounded at the suggestion of $4/gallon.

And people wonder why we dont trust our government.

[from Lexingtons forum]

Folks, I have an idea that would work to cut down gas prices, but it takes EVERYONE out there to do it. Let's take one day and stop driving, flying, using public transit, stop using any vehicle that uses gasoline or diesel. If everyone in America did this just for one day, it would send a ripple effect to Washington. The move would essentially cripple the nation worse than 9-11. I'm meaning everyone,truckers--refuse to haul for one day only, no traffic anywhere to be seen, the nation would be at a stand still, and it would send a message to Washington that we are not going to take these ridiculous gas prices anymore. And if that didn't work, organize more and more gas protests until the move makes law makers take action and reduce gas prices. People this can happen if you do it and it can work, it just takes guts on our part.

[Reality]

a a better stimulous package would have been a moratorium on all taxes collected on gas...for six months, every single item in consumer world is tied to the price of gas, cut the tax

[Ralph]

With his background in the teachings of Islam, he, who bears a Muslim name, he, who refuses to salute the American flag during the national anthem or refuses to wear a flag pin on his lapel, I believe Senator Obama to be the definitive wolf in sheeps clothing. As the Senator of Illinois, look at his record to see how many times he was absent or voted no to any bill that was proposed to benefit the United States, militarily or economically, or to strengthen our national security.
I believe him to be a trojan horse, a very dangerous man. He is very intelligent, articulate and is very charismatic. He is a dynamic orator.
He is very handsome and is appealing to a large segment of the voting population. He can win.

[bruce]

Ralph wrote:

With his background in the teachings of Islam, he, who bears a Muslim name, he, who refuses to salute the American flag during the national anthem or refuses to wear a flag pin on his lapel, I believe Senator Obama to be the definitive wolf in sheeps clothing. As the Senator of Illinois, look at his record to see how many times he was absent or voted no to any bill that was proposed to benefit the United States, militarily or economically, or to strengthen our national security.
I believe him to be a trojan horse, a very dangerous man. He is very intelligent, articulate and is very charismatic. He is a dynamic orator.
He is very handsome and is appealing to a large segment of the voting population. He can win.

Stop wasting the gas, stop farting.

[LEVEL1]

If you don't own a bicycle, now is the time to buy one before real estate moguls, flippers & investors create "The Coming Bicycle Bubble"

[bruce]

LORAX wrote:

Did anyone catch the press conference where GW was dumbfounded at the suggestion of $4/gallon.
And people wonder why we dont trust our government.

He probably didn't understand because they were speaking in english.

[watchingall]

Some interesting statistics, 97% of all our transportation is based on hydrocarbons. The primary feed stock is oil. Our domestic production of oil has been declining at 1.25% annually. We are still the third largest producer of oil on the planet, behind Russia and Saudi. Our gasoline demand increases on average 1.8% and has since 2003. We currently produce a little less than 30% of our domestic oil needs from reserves in the US. If this decline continues by 2012 we will produce less than 12% of our domestic needs. Short term we need to control more of the feed stock to reduce the price. Our oil producers have access to 15% of the reserves globally and 46% of the global supply is produced from that 15%.

The only way to reduce the price of gasoline is to diversify the fuel base. The next best fuel we can move to is diesel. Good news on Diesel is that it goes 25% farther and you can make it from just about anything. Engines are more dependable and the big auto guys know how to make them.

Since consumers are driving this (literally) we need to demand a policy that works us through this transition. We need to demand better cars, preferrably diesel, and we need to keep this economy moving.

Mid term policy should reflect this and long term policy needs to reflect some sort of transitional fuel.

And this doesn't even begin to address the power needs for our ever growing nation.

Relevant reading
http://www.worldenergysource.com/articles/tex...

http://www.worldenergysource.com/articles/pdf...

http://www.worldenergysource.com/wemr/cover.c...

One could argue that since demand keeps rising the price has not peaked yet.

[bruce]

from Lexingtons forum wrote:

Folks, I have an idea that would work to cut down gas prices, but it takes EVERYONE out there to do it. Let's take one day and stop driving, flying, using public transit, stop using any vehicle that uses gasoline or diesel. If everyone in America did this just for one day, it would send a ripple effect to Washington. The move would essentially cripple the nation worse than 9-11. I'm meaning everyone,truckers--refuse to haul for one day only, no traffic anywhere to be seen, the nation would be at a stand still, and it would send a message to Washington that we are not going to take these ridiculous gas prices anymore. And if that didn't work, organize more and more gas protests until the move makes law makers take action and reduce gas prices. People this can happen if you do it and it can work, it just takes guts on our part.

I think that might be difficult to do because some people have essential jobs. We have to use more solar, wind and geothermal for stationary sources while at the same time cutting down on gas use.

[Talt]

Thanks Dubya. We have to get these repugiKONs out of office before gas is $20 / gallon.

[Edthirty]

bruce wrote:

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Stop wasting the gas, stop farting.

LOL
Hey, I think you'll agree, after what we've had to endure over the past eight years, it will be hard for anyone to do any worse...

[bruce]

LEVEL1 wrote:

If you don't own a bicycle, now is the time to buy one before real estate moguls, flippers & investors create "The Coming Bicycle Bubble"

I have been a bike mogul myself. I have owned gas and electric bikes as well as human powered. Sh... Sh. Don't ruin my new get rich quick scheme. Flipping bikes is fun.

[Steve]

mayo420 wrote:

Somehow I think Americans have found a place to spend their rebate checks. And it ain't at the local Walmart or Circuit City. The stimulus package, as it is, should be renamed the "keeping pace" package.

Why do you think Bush gave us this, it is the last thing he can do for his oil cronies, here fellas have a few billion on me before I go, as far as gas mileage I had a 1973 Plymouth Duster with a 340, v8 and it got 23 miles to the gallon, now I have a 6 cylinder and get 16, what a joke.

[Just for the record]

Talt wrote:

Thanks Dubya. We have to get these repugiKONs out of office before gas is $20 / gallon.

Well I don't see the democrat controlled congress doing anything, so I think your logic is flawed.

[WiseOldWizard]

LEVEL1 wrote:

If you don't own a bicycle, now is the time to buy one before real estate moguls, flippers & investors create "The Coming Bicycle Bubble"

They are economical but they are hard to ride when you have 20 inches of snow as we did this weekend. The point is that there is no reason that the American public should have to make these sacrifices. Time to stand the oil companies and our elected representatives on their heads. Remember them come November.

[Just for the record]

The Rock wrote:

The United States is feelling the pain of stupidity .When George junior was campaining I told you not to vote for him because you will relive the four years of hell his father took us through when he was in the white house,but you did not listen ;so George junior is trying to see if eight years can wake up the sleepers in this country. When george junior turm is up even the baby on the brest will suffer.

Do you remember under Carter we had double digit infaltion, sky rockting energy prices, and gas rationing. Before blaiming the Bushes, study a little history and find out how bad it could be.