CO Baker Found Guilty for Denying Gay Couple Wedding Cake - May Face a Year in Jail

Dec 8, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Gateway Pundit

Gay activists protest the Masterpiece Cakeshop in 2012. Owner Jack Phillips now faces charges for not baking a cake for the gay couple.

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1. Women WERE allowed to vote in many places in early American history, until that right was taken away from them.
I would like to have more information about this. Can you name a few places so I can take a look.

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I agree with your agreement, LOL!
Do you notice the hatred against gay people in these threads when some Christian is forced to do something they do not want to do? I really insist that gay people are making enemies when they use the Government to force Christians to do things against their wishes. I feel gay people and kkkrist-insanity-ists would all get along much better if gays would patronize gay business and ignore the "Christian" ones.
Check out the link I just posted. Why would any gay couple go to a Christian owned bakery and be shit on, when gay bakeries exists to cater to their every whim?
Something is really wrong with Dave Mullins and Charlie Craig for avoiding a gay business and taking their money to a Christian bakery where they are hated.
Are the homophobes right that they just wanted some attention?
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I agree. I'm a church-going Protestant, and have shopped around over the years to find a church to attend that welcomes and accepts LGBT people.(They're not hard to find).

So I have never understood, and still don't understand, why some LGBT people choose to be Roman Catholics. It's like a black American choosing to join the KKK. It doesn't make sense.

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Make friends, not enemas....
Hear hear!

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Only idiots refer to GRID. Gays and straights get the same virus, moron.

Got a taste for chocolate, I see.
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You think about big black cocks more than I ever have. Just go find one and get laid.
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According to all recent polling a large majority of Catholics SUPPORT marriage for same-sex couples.
i wouldn't consider 48% a large majority

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Freedom and liberty are in retreat under Government, which is why we need less Government not more Government.
I wish gays would support gay businesses not only because it puts homophobic business's out of business but because they get a better product at a gay business.
If a homophobic businessman is forced to accept gay people then the homophobe stays in business and gay people end up supporting the enemy.
I would never go to a "Christian" bakery. And I wish they would put signs in their windows that said "No fags allowed". It would put them out of business that much sooner.
Govt. has exploded under the 0rganizer and the surrendercrats. Most of the porkulus goes to keep it afloat. The IRS is hiring all the time. They're going to keep everyone's tax refunds that didn't sign up for 0failurecare... the largest middle class tax increase in history.

Better product at a gay business? Then why are they suing to get this guy to make their cake? LOL

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Similar cases have LOST, and there's no reason to think differently in this case. Being gay is neither a choice nor a lifestyle.

Discrimination laws cover both innate (race, gender, orientation) and chosen (religion, political affiliation) traits.
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It definitely has conflicts. It's just wrong on many levels constitutionally an morally. I hope this law gets over turned. One of the posters said is like being Black and not being served. I have to totally disagree! Gay is a choice and a lifestyle. Not an outter color we can all see.
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Scary comments after the article. All the ultra right wing WND reading nut jobs. They are still out there.
Don't want to see jail time for the bigot, but a business busting fine would send a great message out to others who would practice bigoted discrimination.
The Judge has violated this bakers "individual constitutional rights" simply because he chose rightly not to violate his conscience. I know that you that you will most likely consider me a "right wing WND reading nut job" but consider this. You say a judge should fine him, take away his lively hood, because he disagrees with you, or other gays. Being gay is based upon a choice you make, to have sex behind closed doors with the individual of your choice. Being gay is not the same as being a person of color. If you own a store and are allowed not to serve a person who fails to wear a shirt or shoes, maybe you should be fined. Being gay is not your identity. It is choice, the same as the baker who says, "I can't bake your cake, however I know someone who will. You get your cake. But in truth you are not satisfied, because what you really want is to be superior, to say look at me, I am gay and you must accept me. Well, that is never going to happen. and the sooner you and others understand this fact, that you can't control someone by judicial caveat, then happiness can be had by all. If I was the baker not only would I not bake your cake, but I just might take it to court and let the judge wear it. If I am to be arrested it might as well be for a good cause.

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Fair housing laws have been around for decades, idiot. Orientation may be a relatively new addition, but many such inclusions predate Obama's term in office.

BTW...gays usually make great tenants and homeowners.
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This is one of the many ways barock and the liberal traitorcrats kill business.
I have clients with rental properties. Many laws have been passed to protect the lessee at the expense of the landlord. Because they don't want to rent to undesirables, they've raised their rents to exorbitant levels and taken many properties off the market.
Liberals only approve of free speech they agree with.

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Christians want to control women in every arena. You're just butthurt because you're no longer allowed to use your religion to run everyone's lives anymore.
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The war on women is in the middle east and asia, not America.
The war on Christianity is everywhere.
It's being perpetrated by barock's muslim bros. and the ACLU.
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Personally I would welcome a sign outside that warned me that the owners were simple minded bigots so I could avoid walking in the door. They would quickly find themselves out of business because normal people would never enter.
We don't need a law because people vote with their pocketbook and any business that openly discriminates does not do well.
Didn't Harvey Milk organize to warn gays not to buy from stores on Castro street who were owned by homophobes? And the homophobes either changed and started welcoming gays or they went out of business. No law needed.
I have a black friend in Mississippi who said he would rather go to a business who wanted to do business with him rather than a business that was forced by the government to accept him as a customer.
Why isn't it enough for gay people to just avoid business's that discriminate against them and patronize those that welcome them?
It would stop some of the resentment bigots express here claiming gay rights are being forced down their throats. I say, let them discriminate and lose business.
Most normal people would still buy from a baker that sells good cakes and pastries. Nobody cares if he refuses to sell a cake to Steve and Bill and their perverted friends based on his religious beliefs. Homosexuality is not the same as a colored or race issue. Many feel this is a perverted lifestyle and goes against normal society behavious. Many blacks even despise this lifestyle. The bakers business may even pick up. Most people see this as a handful of perverts picking on this baker. The Gays tried boycotting a chicken franchise and the business skyrocketed. Everybody and their dogs went out and bought chicken from this chicken business to protest these gay thugs.
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Personally I would welcome a sign outside that warned me that the owners were simple minded bigots so I could avoid walking in the door. They would quickly find themselves out of business because normal people would never enter.
We don't need a law because people vote with their pocketbook and any business that openly discriminates does not do well.
Didn't Harvey Milk organize to warn gays not to buy from stores on Castro street who were owned by homophobes? And the homophobes either changed and started welcoming gays or they went out of business. No law needed.
I have a black friend in Mississippi who said he would rather go to a business who wanted to do business with him rather than a business that was forced by the government to accept him as a customer.
Why isn't it enough for gay people to just avoid business's that discriminate against them and patronize those that welcome them?
It would stop some of the resentment bigots express here claiming gay rights are being forced down their throats. I say, let them discriminate and lose business.
Harvey Milk was a disgrace.
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Make no bones about it. Gay lifestyle is a choice and a sin. I'm tired of having their lifestyle pushed down my throat.

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Medical treatment cannot be forced on anyone unless they are certified to be incompetent. That's established law. Let's stick to reality.

By your logic, restaurants can deny service to anyone, and can also ignore health, safety, employment, and any other laws that they disagree with? Such laws protect the public and those who conduct business with them. Businesses are separate entities from their owners, which also protects the owner. Businesses are incapahle of worship.
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Is it respecting his right to be a bigot to force him to run his business differently than how he wants to run it? If you are free to be gay then why isn't he free to be a bigot? If the Government can force him to do things he does not want to do, then it can force you to do things you do not want to do. Or prevent you from doing things you do want to do.
Each time the Government is asked "to do something" it gets bigger and stronger and more powerful and it is then easier for it to turn around and bite you in the a$$.
What if there was a new vaccine with all kinds of horrible side effects but it prevented HIV transmission and the Government decided to force all gays to take it. Do you want a Government that powerful? I don't.
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The Judge has violated this bakers "individual constitutional rights" simply because he chose rightly not to violate his conscience. I know that you that you will most likely consider me a "right wing WND reading nut job" but consider this. You say a judge should fine him, take away his lively hood, because he disagrees with you, or other gays. Being gay is based upon a choice you make, to have sex behind closed doors with the individual of your choice. Being gay is not the same as being a person of color. If you own a store and are allowed not to serve a person who fails to wear a shirt or shoes, maybe you should be fined. Being gay is not your identity. It is choice, the same as the baker who says, "I can't bake your cake, however I know someone who will. You get your cake. But in truth you are not satisfied, because what you really want is to be superior, to say look at me, I am gay and you must accept me. Well, that is never going to happen. and the sooner you and others understand this fact, that you can't control someone by judicial caveat, then happiness can be had by all. If I was the baker not only would I not bake your cake, but I just might take it to court and let the judge wear it. If I am to be arrested it might as well be for a good cause.
Very good post

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They don't live in denver, they live in a suburb of denver. There may not be a gay-owned bakery near them or the venue. Maybe this place was more affordable. It doesn't matter. The whole point of antidiscrimination laws is to level the playing field. As I recall from the story, this place was recommended to them.

BTW...being gay doesn't make you a great caterer or baker; I've had horrendous stuff from a few gay food services. A lot of bakers make things really pretty but the food tastes like sawdust. Wedding cakes are at the top of the list for that.
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I agree with your agreement, LOL!
Do you notice the hatred against gay people in these threads when some Christian is forced to do something they do not want to do? I really insist that gay people are making enemies when they use the Government to force Christians to do things against their wishes. I feel gay people and kkkrist-insanity-ists would all get along much better if gays would patronize gay business and ignore the "Christian" ones.
Check out the link I just posted. Why would any gay couple go to a Christian owned bakery and be shit on, when gay bakeries exists to cater to their every whim?
Something is really wrong with Dave Mullins and Charlie Craig for avoiding a gay business and taking their money to a Christian bakery where they are hated.
Are the homophobes right that they just wanted some attention?
Three Tomatoes Catering - Celebration Wedding Cakes
Denver, CO LGBT Wedding Cakes
Deliciously Amazing Celebration Cakes
At Three Tomatoes Catering, we are most proud to share our deliciously amazing Celebration Cakes! We employ a full-time pastry chef, that hand creates each and every sweet delight - from delectable sweets, creams, and frostings - fresh daily.
Website, Contact Info & LGBT Wedding Brochure: Three Tomatoes Catering

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The only way to tell if a business won't serve "your kind" is to go inside and attempt to do business with them.
How many times would you accept being formally turned away from a business before you protested the humiliation? Are you suggesting that we go back to posting signs listing the unacceptable customers on the doors of all establishments?
"No Blacks"
"No Gays"
"No Interracial Weddings"
"We don't serve Muslims"
"No Jews"
Actually, the bigots *DO* think we should go back to posting such signs. It would make their lives SO much easier to know right up front which businesses hate the same type of people that they hate.

Frankly, I wouldn't mind it, either. Then I'd know right up front which business to not spend my money at, regardless of which flavor of people they hate. Hate is hate and it's not to be supported.

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We're not i~ a depression. In fact, economic indicators are up...housing, employment, etc, are all improving.
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What century are you in?
You going to ban free speech next?
barock is only half black, and has nothing in common with most blacks, other than racism. Blacks are far more racist than whites nowadays. He went to prep schools and ivy league colleges (although he's the first President to not release his grades).
I don't think barock is the worst President in history because he's half black. He's the worst because he turned recession to depression while doubling the debt and dividing the country over every issue possible. He's the worst because he turned arab spring to winter by golfing from behind, surrendering on all fronts, abandoning our allies and appeasing our enemies.
freedom and liberty are in retreat under the 0rganizer.

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There is no logic in seeking out a religion, period. That's time, energy, and resources that could go to realistic goals.
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I agree. I'm a church-going Protestant, and have shopped around over the years to find a church to attend that welcomes and accepts LGBT people.(They're not hard to find).
So I have never understood, and still don't understand, why some LGBT people choose to be Roman Catholics. It's like a black American choosing to join the KKK. It doesn't make sense.

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