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# Give 'em hell, Mitt: fight Obama's smears

There are 13853 comments on the New York Post story from Aug 17, 2012, titled Give 'em hell, Mitt: fight Obama's smears. In it, New York Post reports that:

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NoBlamer 2012
#7260 Oct 8, 2012
How Taxes Really Work

This is a VERY simple way to understand the tax laws. Let's put tax cuts
in terms everyone can understand, maybe even you.

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for dinner. The bill for all ten
comes to \$100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would
go something like this.

The first four men, the poorest would pay nothing; the fifth would pay \$1;
the sixth would pay \$3; the seventh \$7; the eighth \$12; the ninth \$18; and
the tenth man, the richest would pay \$59.

That's what they decided to do. The ten men ate dinner in the restaurant
every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day; the
owner threw them a curve (in tax language a tax cut).

"Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the
cost of your daily meal by \$20." So now dinner for the ten only cost
\$80.00.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the
first four men were unaffected. They would still eat for free. But what
about the other six, the paying customers? How could they divvy up the \$20
windfall so that everyone would get his "fair share?"

The six men realized that \$20 divided by six is \$3.33. But if they
subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth
man would end up being PAID to eat their meal. So the restaurant owner
suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the
same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

So the fifth man paid nothing, the sixth pitched in \$2, the seventh paid
\$5, the eighth paid \$9, the ninth paid \$12; leaving the tenth man with a
bill of \$52 instead of his earlier \$59.

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued

But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings.
"I only got a dollar out of the \$20," declared the sixth man, but he,
pointing to the tenth. "But he got \$7!" "Yeah, that's right," exclaimed
the fifth man, "I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got seven
times more than me!" That's true!" shouted the seventh man, why should he
get \$7 back when I got only \$2? The wealthy get all the breaks!" Wait a
minute," yelled the first four men in unison, "we didn't get anything at
all. The system exploits the poor!"

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night he
didn't show up for dinner, so the nine sat down and ate without him. But
when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered, a little late what was
very important.

They were FIFTY-TWO DOLLARS short of paying the bill! Imagine that!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college instructors, is how the
tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most
benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being
wealthy, and they just may not show up at the table anymore.

Where would that leave the rest? Unfortunately, most taxing authorities
anywhere cannot seem to grasp this rather straightforward logic!

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Are You Kidding
#7261 Oct 8, 2012
Nobama wrote:
<quoted text>
The 47% have deluded themselves into believing that socialism is some magic formula that the billionaires will support all the welfare trash, food stampers without anyone working to deserve a damn penny of it.
Or that somehow, those who have no education or any job skills will magically get a good paying job because the billionaires stop putting their money or investments into overseas markets.
Gee...if that billionaire didn't have a swiss bank account we could all be doctors, lawyers or engineers.
Gee...if we could just take that money away from Warren Buffet or Bill Gates...we could all have free medical care for the entire planet and everyone would have a middle-class life style because everyone becomes instantly intelligent with good work ethics.
We all know that nobody would drop out of high school, quit using drugs, stop piercing their faces, quit tattooing 90% of their body, take a bath, brush their teeth, exercise and work hard for at least 40 hours per week, while being honest and taking care of our children by at least financially supportting them. If only Romney didn't have a bank account in the Cayman Islands.
Kill the rich and take their money...yeah, that's the ticket.!
It is so amazing that they hate Romney because he has money. Do they think the Dems have no money??? They are delusional if they think Obama is the answer!!!!

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downhill246
#7262 Oct 8, 2012
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>these people talk all this crap about they hate socialism and communism. Yeah right. They all live on European socialism. Take away their socialist security, their government Medicare, their government Medicaid for their parents' free rest homes from the government, take away their local, state and federal government pensions, VA pensions and health care, and they would all be out in the streets.
They spent all of their money and they all live on government pensions and get government health care - the epitomy of European socialism.
Last time I checked, private investment of Social Security and Medicare payroll deductions were not an option and they should be a choice, especially Social Security. Over the past forty years the S+P 500 has had an average yearly return of 6.85 %, corporate bonds returned 3.46 and 2.44 for government bonds.
In contrast, Social Security has had an average yearly return of 1.23%

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#7263 Oct 8, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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Last time I checked, private investment of Social Security and Medicare payroll deductions were not an option and they should be a choice, especially Social Security. Over the past forty years the S+P 500 has had an average yearly return of 6.85 %, corporate bonds returned 3.46 and 2.44 for government bonds.
In contrast, Social Security has had an average yearly return of 1.23%
exactly, especially when the SCOTUS ruled in Flemming v. Nestor (1960), that individual's have no legal rights to Social Security: Congress can cut or eliminate Social Security benefits at any time regardless of a Individual's contributions because Social Security is a Tax and a Tax Money is the property of the Federal Government Under the US Constitution. Elimination of Social Security would help the Federal Deficit tremendously just by eliminating Social Security altogether, The Federal Government wouldnt be responsible for the IOU's in the Social Security Trust Fund.

http://www.socialsecurity.org/daily/01-13-99....

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frank
#7264 Oct 8, 2012
mjjcpa wrote:
'HOPE IS NOT A STRATEGY'
Romney to rip Obama's foreign policy...
IRAN'S PATH TO NUKE WARHEAD NOW '2-4 MONTHS'...
REPORT: Ambassador Stevens Wanted Security Team to Stay in Libya Past August...
Made 'Multiple Pleas' For More Security...
Warned of Danger on Day of Death...
Talking stupid nonsense as is customary by right-wingnuz morons! The Republican Congress has cut security funding by \$300 mil in spite of Ambassador Chris Stevens request for increasing U.S. Foreign Service security and International Development staffing levels. As well as repeated analysis by the Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress, indicating that our embassies are critically understaffed and lacks security!

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downhill246
#7265 Oct 8, 2012
frank wrote:
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Talking stupid nonsense as is customary by right-wingnuz morons! The Republican Congress has cut security funding by \$300 mil in spite of Ambassador Chris Stevens request for increasing U.S. Foreign Service security and International Development staffing levels. As well as repeated analysis by the Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress, indicating that our embassies are critically understaffed and lacks security!
"Another aide with knowledge of the State Departments efforts to improve security said the consulate in Benghazi, where Stevens and other Americans died, was considered a temporary facility. It was not on the administrations request list for structural improvements for fiscal 2012 or 2013, according to the source."

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downhill246
#7266 Oct 8, 2012
"It is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high today and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now."
President John F. Kennedy

What Obama doesn't tell you is that the only reason that the unemployment rate is closer to 8% than 11% is because so many people have stopped looking for jobs that they're no longer counted. The labor participation rate dropped from a 31 year low in August to a fifty year low in September.Way to go, Barack.

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“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#7267 Oct 8, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>exactly, especially when the SCOTUS ruled in Flemming v. Nestor (1960), that individual's have no legal rights to Social Security: Congress can cut or eliminate Social Security benefits at any time regardless of a Individual's contributions because Social Security is a Tax and a Tax Money is the property of the Federal Government Under the US Constitution. Elimination of Social Security would help the Federal Deficit tremendously just by eliminating Social Security altogether, The Federal Government wouldnt be responsible for the IOU's in the Social Security Trust Fund.
http://www.socialsecurity.org/daily/01-13-99....
So as usual you are saying the liberal FDR's word was no good........imagine that, liberals lying to America.

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“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#7268 Oct 8, 2012
frank wrote:
<quoted text>
Talking stupid nonsense as is customary by right-wingnuz morons! The Republican Congress has cut security funding by \$300 mil in spite of Ambassador Chris Stevens request for increasing U.S. Foreign Service security and International Development staffing levels. As well as repeated analysis by the Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress, indicating that our embassies are critically understaffed and lacks security!
You do know that trying to turn that to the right will only make you dumber looking?

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Are You Kidding
#7269 Oct 8, 2012
frank wrote:
<quoted text>
Talking stupid nonsense as is customary by right-wingnuz morons! The Republican Congress has cut security funding by \$300 mil in spite of Ambassador Chris Stevens request for increasing U.S. Foreign Service security and International Development staffing levels. As well as repeated analysis by the Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress, indicating that our embassies are critically understaffed and lacks security!
It is Obama who is cutting the military!!!!!!!!!!

President Obamas final budget request of his term amounts to his agenda for a desired second term, with tax increases on the affluent and cuts in spending, especially from the military, both to reduce deficits and to pay for priorities like education, public works, research and clean energy.

After the election, Republicans will be eager to forestall two legislative events. One is the expiration of the Bush-era tax cuts after Dec. 31; Mr. Obama in his budget reiterated his vow to support an extension only for taxpayers making less than \$250,000. The second comes in January, when \$1.2 trillion in automatic 10-year spending cuts begin, half in military programs, unless the White House and Congress agree to alternative savings

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“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#7271 Oct 8, 2012
Black Rhino wrote:
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What's that mean?
Hey, you stole Eric Holder's line.

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“Bullsh*% Detector Enabled”

Since: Dec 08

Brooklyn, New York

#7272 Oct 8, 2012
NoBlamer 2012 wrote:
<quoted text>it means you are dumb

you liblosers always have to have someone tell you
how to do it,
where to do it
when to do it
what to do

clean up isle 3

then go back to cleaning the toilet

loser
All you're good for is inane rants. A simple minded circus monkey with a human pulling your chain.

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“Bullsh*% Detector Enabled”

Since: Dec 08

Brooklyn, New York

#7274 Oct 8, 2012
Are You Kidding wrote:
<quoted text>It is so amazing that they hate Romney because he has money. Do they think the Dems have no money??? They are delusional if they think Obama is the answer!!!!
No hate for his money...Dislike his policies and lying about his taxes and hiding money behind the Mormon church.

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“Bullsh*% Detector Enabled”

Since: Dec 08

Brooklyn, New York

#7275 Oct 8, 2012
Are You Kidding wrote:
<quoted text>It is Obama who is cutting the military!!!!!!!!!!

President ObamaÂs final budget request of his term amounts to his agenda for a desired second term, with tax increases on the affluent and cuts in spending, especially from the military, both to reduce deficits and to pay for priorities like education, public works, research and clean energy.

After the election, Republicans will be eager to forestall two legislative events. One is the expiration of the Bush-era tax cuts after Dec. 31; Mr. Obama in his budget reiterated his vow to support an extension only for taxpayers making less than \$250,000. The second comes in January, when \$1.2 trillion in automatic 10-year spending cuts begin, half in military programs, unless the White House and Congress agree to alternative savings
Obama did not cut the military.

Stop just cutting and pasting and read a little.

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“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

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Paris

#7276 Oct 8, 2012
Black Rhino wrote:
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No hate for his money...Dislike his policies and lying about his taxes and hiding money behind the Mormon church.
Obama is mormon now..........yikes.......the poll must be bad.

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“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#7277 Oct 8, 2012
Black Rhino wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama did not cut the military.
Stop just cutting and pasting and read a little.
Of course not, laying off 100,000 and the VA 179% behind on claims is just normal.

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Tony
#7279 Oct 8, 2012
Republicans blocked veterans job bill.

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waitasec
#7280 Oct 8, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Obama is mormon now..........yikes.......the poll must be bad.
Honey, you sound like Obama calling everyone a liar, that tells the truth.
Obama can't run on his record so he calls names... Oh wow sounds like alot of posts on here

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spunky
#7281 Oct 8, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>I agree, but 4/5 polls got Obama still ahead of Romney.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/...
Not now. Some poles say 2 to 3 points ahead for Romney and today I heard a pole was 11 points ahead for Romney. Yah

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downhill246
#7282 Oct 8, 2012
Obama Campaign Is Misrepresenting My Study on Romney's Tax Plan

"I cant tell exactly how the Obama campaign reached that characterization of my work. It might be that they assume that Governor Romney wants to keep the taxes from the Affordable Care Act in place, despite the fact that the Governor has called for its complete repeal. The main conclusion of my study is that under plausible assumptions, a proposal along the lines suggested by Governor Romney can both be revenue neutral and keep the net tax burden on taxpayers with incomes above \$200,000 about the same. That is, an increase in the tax burden on lower and middle income individuals is not required in order to make the overall plan revenue neutral."
Princeton professor Harvey Rose

Obama-Just Vote NO!

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