Ex-NYT correspondent: FISA update is 'giant step toward fascism'

Jul 10, 2008 | Posted by: Top Ex Ed | Full story: rawstory.com

For more than 20 years, Chris Hedges reported from around the globe as a foreign correspondent for the New York Times and other outlets, working from countries with little to no respect for a free and independent press, where his phone was bugged and he was trailed by government agents to prevent dissidents and whistle-blowers from speaking to him.

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Chicago

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#1 Jul 11, 2008
Go ACLU!

“RUN, FACISM IS COMMING!!!”

Since: Jul 08

SUBURBIA

#2 Jul 11, 2008
We are hurtling towards facism already. Well, idk if facism is the right term...What do you call it when your elected officials hand over your country to the military complex and newly privatized "injustice" system? Our republitard countrymen are blind to it for some reason too... Do you righties think that only the hippies, intellectuals and "others" that you hate are going to be the only ones F@#$%D by this sort of law? Think again. You hypocrites.. I thought the right stood for individual rights and a balanced budget. We've gotten none of either and yet you keep sucking the GOP teat. It boggles the mind.
Fix Mouth

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#3 Jul 11, 2008
Giant step? He has apparently been off in other countries for too long. Shit we have been skipping right along, arm in arm, whistling, and like babies with a new rattle just latching on to every distraction they hold in front of us, prancing off to never-never land.

“Unions are still scum ”

Since: Dec 07

Atlanta

#4 Jul 11, 2008
Thanks Obama, your vote kept FISA going. More change I can believe in.

“RUN, FACISM IS COMMING!!!”

Since: Jul 08

SUBURBIA

#5 Jul 11, 2008
HOLY F@#$ING CR@P! OBAMA DID VOTE FOR BUSHES NAZI FASCIST PIG FISA BILL. NOT COOL....er, no, WAIT! I'M SORRY! I didn't mean that! I LOVE YOU BIG BROTHER! lol (We are so doomed, what a shitty GD decade.)

Since: Oct 07

United States

#6 Jul 11, 2008
Alan Cozzi wrote:
HOLY F@#$ING CR@P! OBAMA DID VOTE FOR BUSHES NAZI FASCIST PIG FISA BILL. NOT COOL....er, no, WAIT! I'M SORRY! I didn't mean that! I LOVE YOU BIG BROTHER! lol (We are so doomed, what a shitty GD decade.)
ROFLOL

“I won't pay health insurance”

Since: Jun 07

Wenatchee, WA

#8 Jul 11, 2008
We need to start repealing laws before it is too late. We have gave these weasels too much power. Most of congress have betrayed us. DO NOT re-elect them! Vote for freedom fighters only! Congress wonders why their approval ratings are so low... heh

As soon as they start repealing laws instead of writing new ones I will be impressed.

“RUN, FACISM IS COMMING!!!”

Since: Jul 08

SUBURBIA

#9 Jul 11, 2008
Alex wrote:
We need to start repealing laws before it is too late. We have gave these weasels too much power. Most of congress have betrayed us. DO NOT re-elect them! Vote for freedom fighters only! Congress wonders why their approval ratings are so low... heh
As soon as they start repealing laws instead of writing new ones I will be impressed.
More proof that I can disagree with someone about one thing and commend them for another line of thought. Some good comments above.
Thought

United States

#10 Jul 11, 2008
Disturbing
Fix Mouth

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#11 Jul 11, 2008
Alan Cozzi wrote:
HOLY F@#$ING CR@P! OBAMA DID VOTE FOR BUSHES NAZI FASCIST PIG FISA BILL. NOT COOL....er, no, WAIT! I'M SORRY! I didn't mean that! I LOVE YOU BIG BROTHER! lol (We are so doomed, what a shitty GD decade.)
The entire government has been stealing our freedoms in the extreme for the last 30 years, both parties. I believe, and someone please correct me if I am wrong, but in total, 126 Dems voted for this bill.

Here is the most interesting thing. In the mid-90s, Clinton demanded an immediate passing of an anti-terrorism bill. Along with all his executive orders the ACLU and other orgs were freaked. This is where it gets funny. People were ridiculing Republicans for not passing it swiftly, Repubs kept saying they wanted to study it further and be careful about it. More ridicule (from the media too), more demands for immediacy. Guess what, the repubs watered it down, including the wiretapping capability, Clinton said the bill was too weak and then signed it.

The ACLU was side by side with the NRA and LOTS of other orgs protesting this bill (and don't forget all those executive orders) that was OVERWHELMINGLY voted for. And at that time, it was the Repubs that were concerned with privacy and freedom.

My point is, it's all a game of bobbing and weaving. Depending on what decade, either party is for or against something. It's all about distraction. If people had been paying attention in the 90s, maybe none of this would be happening now. And don't forget, Obama will have access to this new found power. Of course he would vote for it. It gives his administration immense power, and he will use it. Will people care then even though it isn't a Republican or Bush?

We have to stop playing these games.

This reporter guy says a "giant step"? He should have been paying attention to the bill before this one and writing articles about it. Was he playing politics? Will he be concerned when Obama steps over the lines of decency, privacy, and freedom? Where is the objectivity?

The republicans are not the hypocrites. They all are. No more, no less.

Sorry, I am long-winded tonight.
Fix Mouth

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#12 Jul 11, 2008
Alex wrote:
We need to start repealing laws before it is too late. We have gave these weasels too much power. Most of congress have betrayed us. DO NOT re-elect them! Vote for freedom fighters only! Congress wonders why their approval ratings are so low... heh
As soon as they start repealing laws instead of writing new ones I will be impressed.
Hi Alex, we have chatted before but my name was different then and I can't remember it. It was in a 2nd amendment forum. Always love to see your profile image, and of course I love hearing someone talk in terms of government itself and not political parties. It's the only way to really see what is going on.

Since: Oct 07

United States

#13 Jul 11, 2008
Fix Mouth wrote:
<quoted text>
The entire government has been stealing our freedoms in the extreme for the last 30 years, both parties. I believe, and someone please correct me if I am wrong, but in total, 126 Dems voted for this bill.
Here is the most interesting thing. In the mid-90s, Clinton demanded an immediate passing of an anti-terrorism bill. Along with all his executive orders the ACLU and other orgs were freaked. This is where it gets funny. People were ridiculing Republicans for not passing it swiftly, Repubs kept saying they wanted to study it further and be careful about it. More ridicule (from the media too), more demands for immediacy. Guess what, the repubs watered it down, including the wiretapping capability, Clinton said the bill was too weak and then signed it.
The ACLU was side by side with the NRA and LOTS of other orgs protesting this bill (and don't forget all those executive orders) that was OVERWHELMINGLY voted for. And at that time, it was the Repubs that were concerned with privacy and freedom.
My point is, it's all a game of bobbing and weaving. Depending on what decade, either party is for or against something. It's all about distraction. If people had been paying attention in the 90s, maybe none of this would be happening now. And don't forget, Obama will have access to this new found power. Of course he would vote for it. It gives his administration immense power, and he will use it. Will people care then even though it isn't a Republican or Bush?
We have to stop playing these games.
This reporter guy says a "giant step"? He should have been paying attention to the bill before this one and writing articles about it. Was he playing politics? Will he be concerned when Obama steps over the lines of decency, privacy, and freedom? Where is the objectivity?
The republicans are not the hypocrites. They all are. No more, no less.
Sorry, I am long-winded tonight.
I must step up and correct you.. Fix Mouth.. <clearing throat> I did not consider your post "long-winded" it was IMHO, informative. Thank you. Distractions are certainly in the works... just look at the "media" we heard more details about Britney, Hilton, on and on.. than we have about the signing statements, exec. orders, and bills that change our Constitution. The media is owned now, by a handful of people that support the one world agenda. Sovereignty has become a nasty word, "isolationist" is the term now used to try to isolate those that believe in our Constitution and the rights of We the People. LOGCAP has privatized the military.. contracts for many years, have repeatedly been given to Halliburton and others dispite the fact the GEO has found repeated failures to complete contracts..account for the monies. Now with E voting machines, we have no paper trails.. now tax payers are bailing out the banking industry.. and it is of interest that in Briton, the tax payers are also bailing out their banking system. Going for coffee.. just woke up a while ago.. saw your post.. and found it of interest. Thanks

Since: Oct 07

United States

#14 Jul 11, 2008
Alex wrote:
We need to start repealing laws before it is too late. We have gave these weasels too much power. Most of congress have betrayed us. DO NOT re-elect them! Vote for freedom fighters only! Congress wonders why their approval ratings are so low... heh
As soon as they start repealing laws instead of writing new ones I will be impressed.
good post Alex.
Anti

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#16 Jul 11, 2008
Betsy Ross wrote:
<quoted text>I must step up and correct you.. Fix Mouth.. <clearing throat> I did not consider your post "long-winded" it was IMHO, informative. Thank you. Distractions are certainly in the works... just look at the "media" we heard more details about Britney, Hilton, on and on.. than we have about the signing statements, exec. orders, and bills that change our Constitution. The media is owned now, by a handful of people that support the one world agenda. Sovereignty has become a nasty word, "isolationist" is the term now used to try to isolate those that believe in our Constitution and the rights of We the People. LOGCAP has privatized the military.. contracts for many years, have repeatedly been given to Halliburton and others dispite the fact the GEO has found repeated failures to complete contracts..account for the monies. Now with E voting machines, we have no paper trails.. now tax payers are bailing out the banking industry.. and it is of interest that in Briton, the tax payers are also bailing out their banking system. Going for coffee.. just woke up a while ago.. saw your post.. and found it of interest. Thanks
Thanks to you too. I forgot that I had "fix mouth" for my name, but I just kept seeing that picture of the boy with the lip deal in the upper right hand of the topix page. I have obviously changed it back to my less obscure and more meaningful "Anti". Ha! I found your post interesting as well.

“Liberty is Contagious”

Since: May 08

Richardson, TX

#17 Jul 11, 2008


http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Mmmmm, coffee sure sounds good. Bedtime for me though. later
Christopher

Joppa, MD

#18 Jul 11, 2008
Fix Mouth wrote:
Giant step? He has apparently been off in other countries for too long. Shit we have been skipping right along, arm in arm, whistling, and like babies with a new rattle just latching on to every distraction they hold in front of us, prancing off to never-never land.
Unfortunately, you are right when you refer to politicians doing that. As to the regular American people, we have a lot of problems with this stuff.... however, in this fucked up form of government our Founding Fathers left us (it was okay at THEIR time, but not today when everyone has the ability to vote on EVERYTHING via internet or telephone), we don't really have a way to change things.

Since: Mar 08

Carmel, IN

#19 Jul 11, 2008
I thought thats what you liberals always wanted? Socialized medicine, government control over certian industries(oil) the ability to tell people what to do (banning trans fats for one) and you get all pissy over FISA...

Stupid ass liberals

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#20 Jul 11, 2008
lol.

First they create the monster. Then they create laws to monitor the make believe monster.

Our southern border are Proof that the war on terror is a 'farce'!

Congress? lol....... they are owned by corporations. We have only the ACLU and the Supreme court to manage us back to civility and the ideals of the founding fathers.* unless your ready to lock and load.

9% approval rating for Congress means they are vastly mouthpieces for thier lobbyists. They dont represent me. THey can have 1984. We the People have 1776.

Since: Apr 08

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#21 Jul 11, 2008
Christopher wrote:
<quoted text>
Unfortunately, you are right when you refer to politicians doing that. As to the regular American people, we have a lot of problems with this stuff.... however, in this fucked up form of government our Founding Fathers left us (it was okay at THEIR time, but not today when everyone has the ability to vote on EVERYTHING via internet or telephone), we don't really have a way to change things.
Goverment was fine until 1886 Santa Clar Decision.

ya like corporations having Constitutional Rights set forth for the people? DAMN! Even the 14th amendment protections? DAMN!

Corporations are considered people eh? Well then , those corporations who for profit undermine the Sociol Fabric intentionally of America by outsourcing American Technology, jobs and know how should be shot before a firing squad for treason.

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#22 Jul 11, 2008
1886 Santa 'Clara' decision.

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