Cynthia McKinney, 20 Others, Held by Israel

[Casual Observer]

Ish tov wrote:

Thinkin... you're not thinkin', fool!
DNA analysis of Ashkenazim proves that they ARE Semites. They are of Mideastern origin mostly. They have a minority % of Aryan/other Euro genes, naturally, having lived in northern and eastern Europe for so long.
But they ARE the descendants of the Hebrews of old. That is a fact. I know facts confuse you...

You use the word 'fact' a lot, but you never provide any references.

Any reputable Middle School teacher would give you an 'F' in the 'fact' department.

[Shady Lady]

With her big mouth she should be given a blindfold, and a cigarette, and shot at dawn. She has no business over there except to make trouble. I am glad they got her, and I hope the Isreali's makes the annointed Won pay dearly to get her back.

[blackbolt]

http://tinyurl.com/lwh65d

" The huge point that refutes all the zionist propaganda you bring from clowns like michael hammer, is the fact these zionist "researchers" attempt to use studying the "non-recombining" part of the Y-Chromosome to pathetically attempt to claim White Ashkenazi Jews are somehow "Semitic". When it is clear from Jewish scholarship itself, that the only way to determine if someone has "Jewish" or "Semitic" DNA is by studying the maternally inherited mitochondrial DNA! That is the mitochondrial DNA a "Jew" inherits from their MOTHER!

Read from the Zionist Jewish owned NY Times (zionist newspaper): http://www.humanitas-international.org/per......

Quote- mitochondrial DNA to a possibly local origin, Dr. Goldstein said that the composition of ordinary chromosomes, which carry most of the genes, was impossible to assess."

read link^^^ for further clarification and discussion
....funny how the phrase "zionist lies" just seems to CONSTANTLY reappear everywhere one looks in talks about this stuff...

:O)

[Thinkin]

Casual Observer wrote:

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You use the word 'fact' a lot, but you never provide any references.
Any reputable Middle School teacher would give you an 'F' in the 'fact' department.

Thank you for responding for me. I have yet to see any definitive DNA proof that Ashkenazi Jews are indeed Semites. Typical Zionist response to historical facts. This user Ish Tov never provides facts to his statements. Are we to take them ad nauseum as truth from this great thinker? It seems doubtful.

[Furtaker]

Thinkin wrote:

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The East European Ashkanazi Zionist Jews that control the government of Israel and reside there are not Semites. The whole point is all those East European Jews that immigrated to Israel circa 1917, upon the issuance of The Balfour Declaration, and of course during the late 1930s and early 1940s during WWII are White (Aryan) men and women. Allow me to quickly explain, in case you don't already know this. The East European Jews of Israel cannot be both decendents of Abraham and Semites. Abraham was from Ur of Chaldea, as pointed out in Genesis. Modern day Ur would be located in Mesopatamia, between Iran and Iraq of today. The tribes indigenous to this area were Aryan. Those that resided in what is now Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Syria and Palestine are decendents of the Semetic tribes. How then can East European Ashkanazi Jews claim to trace their roots back to Abraham and the orginal semetic people? It is genetically and historically impossible. East Europeans are descend directly from the Aryan tribes. Therefore, the claim made by the white/caucasion Jew of European ancestry that his roots trace back to Palestine is completely false. Please, feel free to correct me if I am factually and historically incorrect.

I can trace my ancestry back to Ireland , Scotland and England . And some of my ancestors were indigenous.People are mobile , they migrate , they get around. Israel accepted the Ashkenazi Jews so who am I to argue?

[blackbolt]

Furtaker wrote:

<quoted text>I can trace my ancestry back to Ireland , Scotland and England . And some of my ancestors were indigenous.People are mobile , they migrate , they get around. Israel accepted the Ashkenazi Jews so who am I to argue?

"Israel accepted the Ashkenazi Jews"....

No sh8t!!!!..Israel IS the ashkenazim...

[Ish tov]

And the Palestinians are ARAB... you are too dimwitted to get the analogy. WHY did the Arabs keep their "brethren" in camps for decades? Israel didn't keep their brethen in camps to use as propaganda against the non-democratic and racist Arab nations from which they'd fled... no, they were integrated into Israeli society.

But that's the difference between a democratic free society like that of Israel, and a backwards dictatorship such as nearly every Arab nation.

[Ish tov]

Blackdolt... your attempt to discuss genetics was full of incomplete sentences and you never clearly stated what the hell you were trying to say...

The fact remains that Ashkenazim DNA is mostly Mideastern = Semitic. Have you ever even BEEN around any Jews? I have... a lot, and they look Mideastern! Some don't, but then some blacks can "pass" as white, so what can I tell you...

I don't see anyone on here citing references except from U-tube... LOL

Of course y'all know nothing but internet sources, since you're completely uneducated. I could cite scholarly journals at you, but you have to pay to read them online.

You could try the university library, but most of you can't spell "university", so that wouldn't work either...

[Furtaker]

Ish tov wrote:

It has always been 6 million. But does it matter? If it were 5.9 million, would that make it acceptable? How ignorant this argument is.
The Nazis also murdered up to 800,000 Roma (Gypsies), and a LOT of liberals and leftists, as well as disabled people. Want to argue about those numbers too? LOL
Goliath was a PHILISTINE. The modern "Palestinians" are mostly of Bedouin ancestry, meaning they are Arabs who were settled in Israel by the Arab conquerors as part of their usual policy of control. Don't legitimize their bogus claims to nationhood on that territory by pretending that they were there in ancient times.

Goliath was from Philistia which was an ancient country in the southwestern part of Palestine. So many modern day Palestinians are decendents of the Philistine and the rest may be camel jockeys as you say.

[Rovian]

Just read this on another thread....

The ironic thing is Cynthia didn't realize she was on a blockade runner, she thought it was an audition for "I'm a Celebrity: Get Me Out of Here!"

[blackbolt]

Ish tov wrote:

Blackdolt... your attempt to discuss genetics was full of incomplete sentences and you never clearly stated what the hell you were trying to say...
The fact remains that Ashkenazim DNA is mostly Mideastern = Semitic. Have you ever even BEEN around any Jews? I have... a lot, and they look Mideastern! Some don't, but then some blacks can "pass" as white, so what can I tell you...
I don't see anyone on here citing references except from U-tube... LOL
Of course y'all know nothing but internet sources, since you're completely uneducated. I could cite scholarly journals at you, but you have to pay to read them online.
You could try the university library, but most of you can't spell "university", so that wouldn't work either...

i merely posted a link (and a qoute)..which itself referred to artices..

you STUPID lying sonofabitch..I myself didn't discuss genetics..as is obvious..

you must be losing if altogether MF... your sh8t is becoming completely incoherent and just plain silly..

YOU haven't posted ONE link alleging to document your claims..just nonsense turds you randomly pull out you butt..

ha-ha-ha---scholar??..you're no scholar..just a wind-up piece of zionist propaganda

:O)

[Ish tov]

The Palestinian Arabs, descending from a group which mostly are immigrants (in the 7th century), may well have picked up some genes of Philistines and others once they were in Israel. But it is likely that Jews have more Philistine ancestry than Palestinians do.

I'm not sure if this has any political significance, but it is an interesting question. Historically it is believed that the Philistines were "Sea People", related probably to the Hyksos, and therefore were of Aryan origin, departing by sea probably from southern Anatolia. This is still an open question, however.

[haam]

Thinkin wrote:

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The East European Ashkanazi Zionist Jews that control the government of Israel and reside there are not Semites. The whole point is all those East European Jews that immigrated to Israel circa 1917, upon the issuance of The Balfour Declaration, and of course during the late 1930s and early 1940s during WWII are White (Aryan) men and women. Allow me to quickly explain, in case you don't already know this. The East European Jews of Israel cannot be both decendents of Abraham and Semites. Abraham was from Ur of Chaldea, as pointed out in Genesis. Modern day Ur would be located in Mesopatamia, between Iran and Iraq of today. The tribes indigenous to this area were Aryan. Those that resided in what is now Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Syria and Palestine are decendents of the Semetic tribes. How then can East European Ashkanazi Jews claim to trace their roots back to Abraham and the orginal semetic people? It is genetically and historically impossible. East Europeans are descend directly from the Aryan tribes. Therefore, the claim made by the white/caucasion Jew of European ancestry that his roots trace back to Palestine is completely false. Please, feel free to correct me if I am factually and historically incorrect.

Actually lers make it simple. They kept the name Ashkenaz to remember where they came from. Ashkenaz is a grandson of japheth not Shem which the original jews are descendants. lapheth is the progenitor of the caucasian race not the original jews which looked more like the Hamites, which is why God changed Abram's name to AbraHAM. This was done to show that there is no physical difference between ADHAM, HAM, ABRAHAM. Good call my friend!!

[Pastuh]

Once it was different.
Jewish terrorist throw stones on Palestinian soldier:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

[Ish tov]

That Biblical mythology is a crock. The Ashkenazim are descended mostly from ancient Hebrews (mostly the tribe of Judah). This is proven by DNA analysis, history and archaeology.

And do you have a similar explanation for the Sephardim? LOL... Keep in mind that there is a large % of Sephardic DNA among the Ashkenazim, as wave after wave of Sephardim moved into northern and eastern Europe and mixed with the Ashkenazim in Medieval times.

Oh, but historical facts confuse you Jew-hating neo-Nazis, don't they?

[Thinkin]

Ish tov wrote:

The Palestinian Arabs, descending from a group which mostly are immigrants (in the 7th century), may well have picked up some genes of Philistines and others once they were in Israel. But it is likely that Jews have more Philistine ancestry than Palestinians do.
I'm not sure if this has any political significance, but it is an interesting question. Historically it is believed that the Philistines were "Sea People", related probably to the Hyksos, and therefore were of Aryan origin, departing by sea probably from southern Anatolia. This is still an open question, however.

I guess next you are going to tell us that there is a Jewish DNA as well. Right?

[haam]

Khalfani wrote:

You know, I still don't get WHY African AMericans like McKinney would go out their way and bend over backwards to help these Palestinians. It's not like they have any love for us. As a matter of facts, blacks are more likely to advance in Israel, then in Palestine. But we have these gullible black people who, instead, want to bend over backwards for people that will KILL you in a heartbeat for dating their people. All because your skin is darker.
Damn, black people.

Actually youngster you sound ignorant. First part of the Jewish culture is the belief that BLACKNESS is a curse. We know this is bull because God created black ADHAM in his image and all races share the same DNA as the original blacks. Secondly when WWII ended and the Jews of Europe were relocated to ISrael, they did not want to have a shared state with the INDIGENOUS Palestinians. Next they ordered all of the Palestinians out and any that were left they massacred in their homes. There is a documentary created by the Jews themselves showing the violent outing of these people to show there might in the world. The only reason the entire Middle East hates them is for this reason alone. Men, women and children were killed and still reside in the West Bank. Know your history before you speak youngling!!!

[haam]

Ish tov wrote:

Thinkin... you're not thinkin', fool!
DNA analysis of Ashkenazim proves that they ARE Semites. They are of Mideastern origin mostly. They have a minority % of Aryan/other Euro genes, naturally, having lived in northern and eastern Europe for so long.
But they ARE the descendants of the Hebrews of old. That is a fact. I know facts confuse you...

Your a damn liar DNA shows the exact opposite. Only 9 % of the white Ashkenaz Jews have the DNA of the original Semites. These are just made up falshoods your spewing. The Lemba tribe in South Africa has more of a GENETIC match to the original Jews. If I were you I wouldn't tell people that I'm educated with this nonsense. Ashkenaz.....LLS!Please

[Ish tov]

The LEMBA? LOL... they have a small amount of Cohanim gene, obviously from immigrants whom they assimilated.

The DNA studies of Ashkenazim show them to be mostly Mideastern, meaning Semitic. I have read the articles resulting from these studies.

You wouldn't know how to interpret DNA data or ANY science. You're a Jew-hating neo-Nazi, therefore subhuman. I'd hang you myself if you had the cojones to show yourself.

[blackbolt]

Point by point refutation of the following anyone??

http://www.euvolution.com/articles/jewish.htm...

..didn't think so..
*BIG smirk*