Cynthia McKinney, 20 Others, Held by Israel

[Tim John]

Who more stupid a woman who wants to try to draw a spotlight to the 21st century Holocaust - OR the 'blockading nation' causing the current Holocaust?

I MEANT....

[Tim John]

You people want to rag on McKinney for going and trying to get an international spotlight on the very fact that Israel, a country all to familiar with the Holocaust, is COMMITTING a Holocaust against Palatine!

I guess I can't see anything that she is doing rising to the levels of what Israel is doing!

So any negative comments about her are MUNDANE in the wake of a Holocaust surviving country and people, committing Holocaust against another people!!!

[NotSoDivineMsM]

Sojourner wrote:

The same folks who would complain about the pre WWII moral crime committed against Jews aboard the SS.St. Louis when refused admittance to the United States then forced back to Germany , are now supporting the illegal hijacking of a humanitarian vessel in international waters.
Notably, Amnesty International describes Israel's attack on Gaza as "wanton." That ship cannot be accused of the same crime against Israel. Indeed, that ship was destined to assist survivors now suffering at the hands of Israel..

Which 'same' folks would those be? Do tell......This whole incident is like comparing apples to oranges when referencing what the 'US' did to the occupants of the St. Louis......sorry, I refuse to see the connection.....

[NotSoDivineMsM]

Tim John wrote:

You people want to rag on McKinney for going and trying to get an international spotlight on the very fact that Israel, a country all to familiar with the Holocaust, is COMMITTING a Holocaust against Palatine!
I guess I can't see anything that she is doing rising to the levels of what Israel is doing!
So any negative comments about her are MUNDANE in the wake of a Holocaust surviving country and people, committing Holocaust against another people!!!

Tim, Tim, Tim.....I cannot believe you actually wrote that......Where are the massive 'extermination' centers? Start with that.....NO connection to the present.....

[Burt]

Cynthia McKinney? What a joke! That animal should be in jail for violently attacking a Capitol police officer.

[Corbin Dallas]

Ish tov wrote:

Have Arab attacks on Israeli civilians been "wanton"?
Corbin... if you got information from other than Rush Limbaugh and his Nazi propagandist cohorts, you'd have something to say besides the tired old canard "bleeding heart liberal". It is meaningless rhetoric. You'd think you'd be smart enough to shut up now that the nature of conservative policy is revealed by the recent meltdown... but, y'all never learn...
Yes they are, Trufax. I am well aware of the nasty history of Islam, but REAGAN armed, funded and trained both the Taliban and al Qaeda. Learn some history before you babble, boy.

before you start babbling I was in front of the line the first time Ayotollah took hostages in Iran served out a full term in the USMC as a infantry man 0331 which means that I was a machine gunner with a 30 second life expectancy in a fire fight. I was deployed to places no one knows and was prepared to die or live regardless of which president sent me there...as far as rush you and i probably share the same opinion of the blow hard...my gut was full of liberals when I had to watch how my uncles were treated when they came home from Nam....You want to be a known enemy of the US then I have no sympathy for you or your cause...this liberal mantra is subversive at best but I protected it as well as it is truly American but they should know when to mind their own business as the whole world is not disney land......Semper FI Mother **cker

[Trufax]

Ish tov wrote:

Have Arab attacks on Israeli civilians been "wanton"?
Corbin... if you got information from other than Rush Limbaugh and his Nazi propagandist cohorts, you'd have something to say besides the tired old canard "bleeding heart liberal". It is meaningless rhetoric. You'd think you'd be smart enough to shut up now that the nature of conservative policy is revealed by the recent meltdown... but, y'all never learn...
Yes they are, Trufax. I am well aware of the nasty history of Islam, but REAGAN armed, funded and trained both the Taliban and al Qaeda. Learn some history before you babble, boy.

Did America provide support for Islamists in their fight against the U.S.S.R.? Yes! But with or without that support the ideology of Islam would be unchanged, as would Islam's perspective on America. The only thing Christians and Jews have going for them is that they are part of the Abrahamic religions. Everyone else is an infidel of the worst kind.

American politics never caused these ideological beliefs and can never change them. Nothing will change in Islam until they are willing to renounce sharia law and willing to renounce Muhammad as Allah's "infallible" prophet and example of male behavior. Talking about Regan or George H.W. Bush being responsible is intellectually insulting.

[NotSoDivineMsM]

Sojourner wrote:

Blockade in International Waters?
Those who blame Gaza for the "wanton" attack by Israel are in opposition with Amnesty International (an organization which, by the way, has worked tirelessly against anti-Semitism). To a lesser extent the same voices are raised against the United Nations. A representative of that body also filed a critical report against Israel. The U.N. claims that Israeli forces shelled an aid station during its "wanton" attack on Gaza civilians. In other words internationally recognized friends of israel have spoken against the invasion, and now speak for the refugees.
President Carter is also a friend of Israel. He brokered the Camp David Accord. The Accord assured peace for Israel and guarantees that the U.S. taxpayer pay Israel $40 billion a year.(minimum) Regarding violence from Palestinians against Israel, President Carter claims that Israel approves building settlements where the homes of Palestinians legally existed. He points to Israel's theft of Palestinian land.
Perhaps arguments supporting the" wanton" attack on Gaza and the illegal seizing of a humanitarian ship in international waters should be redirected from friends here at African American Forum to others, e.g., the United Nations, Amnesty International and President Jimmy Carter.

What really 'frosts' me is that while some of you are so concerned about Israeli policies, worse things have happened (and could happen again) on our own soil. Review your history.....

[Ish tov]

Corbin... you reveal yourself as a traitor, as you label all Democrats as enemies of the USA.

You are a fascist who would wish to suppress dissent, obviously.

Go read the Bill of Rights, boy.

[Ish tov]

Trufax... I don't need a lecture from you on the evils of Islam. I am in total agreement.

The point you are missing is that it was a grave tactical error for Reagan to enable the Taliban and al Qaeda to grow and be powerful.

Islamicists chronically appear, and yes they are inherent to Islam. I'm sure you know about al Moravids, al Mohades, etc.

Reagan's and even moreso GW Bush's approaches were highly flawed. Bush demonizing the entire Islamic world only solidified support for the Wahabists, Taliban, etc. Look now, with Obama speaking more moderately, how many moderate Muslims are more willing to stand up against the Islamicists.

I've known a lot of Persians and other Muslims, and there are a LOT of them who prefer a secular government, Westernized society, etc. Let's encourage them rather than shoving them into the arms of the extremists.

[MAXXX PAIN]

After hitting the gaurd at the capital and her shitty attitude......I hope she stays over there. Sorry to be on topic......continue on.......lol

[Tim John]

MAXXX PAIN wrote:

After hitting the gaurd at the capital and her shitty attitude......I hope she stays over there. Sorry to be on topic......continue on.......lol

The guard was RACIALLY PROFILING her at the Capitol Building even though she was a member of Congress, but just because she was/is Black the Guard felt it necessary to scrutinize her and check her pass cards and credentials...

Listen to me right now MAXXX, you are a clown, a monkey-mouth clown to me, you understand that! your thinking and conclusions are that of a clown!...but when this matter you really could you sounder judgment....

[Tim John]

You really could use sounder judgment I meant...^ to MAXXX PAIN

[MAXXX PAIN]

Tim John wrote:

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The guard was RACIALLY PROFILING her at the Capitol Building even though she was a member of Congress, but just because she was/is Black the Guard felt it necessary to scrutinize her and check her pass cards and credentials...
Listen to me right now MAXXX, you are a clown, a monkey-mouth clown to me, you understand that! your thinking and conclusions are that of a clown!...but when this matter you really could you sounder judgment....

The facts are the guard did not recognize her and she did not have her credentials showing as is required in this post 9-11 era. So, you are saying because she is black she can do whatever she wants and to fin bad what the rules are. Tim, you do know you make yourself look like an azz when dealing with a subject people actually know the facts about.

Stick to something you know.......I get back to you when I find something you actually know the facts about.

[Burt]

Tim John wrote:

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The guard was RACIALLY PROFILING her at the Capitol Building even though she was a member of Congress, but just because she was/is Black the Guard felt it necessary to scrutinize her and check her pass cards and credentials...
Listen to me right now MAXXX, you are a clown, a monkey-mouth clown to me, you understand that! your thinking and conclusions are that of a clown!...but when this matter you really could you sounder judgment....

If it was rascist fool then why did the guard check every other members credentials as well? Mckinney clearly thought she was above the rules. The voters thought otherwise! LOL

[MAXXX PAIN]

Tim John wrote:

You really could use sounder judgment I meant...^ to MAXXX PAIN

Tim, the only reason you care is because she is black. The diffence between the two of us is that if it would have been a white man and the same facts....I would think he was a dumbass that should have apologized to the gaurd. Think about it......be honest. See white people can say other whites are freak and wrong. I do not say well he is white so he's right.....clown

[ssgt beans and rice]

Tim John wrote:

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Who more stupid a woman who wants to try to draw a spotlight to the 21st century Holocaust - of the 'blockading nation' causing the current Holocaust?
AND
To add to that, what if the blockading nation was the victim of the first Holocaust, how stupid would they be to commit Holocaust against another people?
Your Naïveté has failed!!!

the one who would be stupid, is the one who attempted to run the blockade thinking they could do so without consequences.

Don't get me wrong, i support her reasons, just don't care much for the whining.

Besides, the entire world knows what is going on...calling it genocide is a stretch, but it is oppression and a massive humanitarian tragedy.

The sad part is, the majority of the western world really doesn't care.

[ssgt beans and rice]

Burt wrote:

Cynthia McKinney? What a joke! That animal should be in jail for violently attacking a Capitol police officer.

have you ever dealt with the capital police?

lol,

nah, just kidding, you should never assault a peace officer... i could be a bit biased though.

[Corbin Dallas]

Ish tov wrote:

Corbin... you reveal yourself as a traitor, as you label all Democrats as enemies of the USA.
You are a fascist who would wish to suppress dissent, obviously.
Go read the Bill of Rights, boy.

Hey jerkoff no traitor here,just a foot powered beer cooled small green amphibious monster that thrives on war and a proud member of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children, after all who else can do the job; do not label anyone anything, just voicing my opinion on the liberal mentality and how it is unique to America and basically unwelcomed anywhere else in the world....If I may make a suggestion try not to name call anyone with prior military experience a traitor if in fact you were standing in front of me I do not think you would have the sack to say that, but then again liberals have never been responsible for the drivel that flows from their mouth always someone else to pay the price...
So re stating my position: Liberal mentality is not so welcome outside of America...

[Camel Toe]

British prisoners report ill treatment in Israeli jail

A message smuggled out of the Ramla Givon prison in an email from members of the solidarity boat crew arrested earlier this week has accused the Israeli authorities of maltreatment and keeping them in poor conditions.

http://www.salfordonline.com/articles.php...