McCain starts defining Obama

[Holographic Doctor]

The TAX SPAM posted above has been refuted time and time again. Obama would LOWER taxes for most middle-class families. The only people who would have a tax increase are those with annual incomes of $250,000 and above. And THAT is from rolling back the Bush "Tax Cuts for the Rich".

[logic]

Wiser? HA! McCain is dumb as a rock.....

pwilson wrote:

I will always take older, wiser, more experienced people over younger less experienced ones.
I do that for my lawyers.
I do that for my Doctors.
I do that for a banker.
A painter, a baker,a florist,a plumber,a builder, a Mayor, Govenor, and
most importantly, A PRESIDENT.

[logic]

This is fraudulent information.... COMPLETELY! So much for a reference, eh?$8000 tax on a $30K salary? YOU ARE NUTS!!! Obama would never do that to average Americans. OBAMA '08

TDOwen wrote:

INTERESTING DATA RECEIVED ON TAXES
Spread the word..... Nothing spam or false about this,
This is something you should be aware of so you don't get blind-sided. This is really going to catch a lot of families off guard. It should make you worry.
Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:
CAPITAL GAINS TAX
MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples) McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.
OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales
How does this affect you?
If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes.
If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.
DIVIDEND TAX
MCCAIN 15%(no change)
OBAMA 39.6%
How will this affect you?
If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama become president.
The experts predict that 'higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.
INCOME TAX
MCCAIN (no changes)
Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K - tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250
OBAMA
(reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
Under Obama your taxes will more than double!
How does this affect you?
No explanation needed. This is pretty straight forward.
INHERITANCE TAX
MCCAIN 0%(No change, Bush repealed this tax)
OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax
How does this affect you? Many families have lost businesses, farms and ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will not only lose them to these taxes.
NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA
* New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than
2400 square feet
* New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already)
* New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity)
* New taxes on retirement accounts and last but not least....
* New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!

[Michael Hazzard]

FU AH wrote:

Obama quote regarding trip:
"...want to meet the people I will be working with for the next 8 to 10 years"
Does he know there is an 8 yr. limit for the presidency?
JOHN MCCAIN IN '08

Don't u know u can still hang out and work with people after u were president?
OBAMA IN '08

[Koolaid drinker]

logic wrote:

This is fraudulent information.... COMPLETELY! So much for a reference, eh?$8000 tax on a $30K salary? YOU ARE NUTS!!! Obama would never do that to average Americans. OBAMA '08
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You have said the tax info posted was false, do you have anythign to back this up with?

[Realist]

logic wrote:

This is fraudulent information.... COMPLETELY! So much for a reference, eh?$8000 tax on a $30K salary? YOU ARE NUTS!!! Obama would never do that to average Americans. OBAMA '08
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I was paying this rate in the late 1980's!

Please do some research before you spout off

[Deadbeat]

Michael Hazzard wrote:

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Don't u know u can still hang out and work with people after u were president?
OBAMA IN '08

Id ont work, I don wanna work, Iwants to stays on disbality and live off the suckers, er uh taxpayers

becuz, becuz I am entitnled and dat us why its ccalled entitnlelments

vote Obama in 2008, cuz damnit, I ant had a raise in a while and i wnats mo $

[Deadbeat]

Holographic Doctor wrote:

The TAX SPAM posted above has been refuted time and time again. Obama would LOWER taxes for most middle-class families. The only people who would have a tax increase are those with annual incomes of $250,000 and above. And THAT is from rolling back the Bush "Tax Cuts for the Rich".

Well, if you rescind the Bush tax cuts, a lot of peopel will be paying taxes they did not pay before

effectively, their taxes will have been raised and it ain't just the $250k + group I am tlaking about

[TDOwen]

Realist wrote:

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I was paying this rate in the late 1980's!
Please do some research before you spout off

And you think that in the year 08 Obama wont hit you for that and more again. He wants torepeal every tax cut issued since Bush came into office and raise existing ones and create new and differant ways to reach deep into your pocket.
Remember Obama for change!!!
Because thats all you'll have left in your pockets when he is done.
This is all factual and accurate. You do the research.

[paul]

Realist wrote:

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I was paying this rate in the late 1980's!
Please do some research before you spout off

I wouldn't waste a lot of energy arguing about Obambi's high tax plan. Obambi just blew the election on his rock tour.

His statement yesterday that he is a "citizen of the world" was a show stopper that will be replayed a million times. What an arrogant ass. I thought he was running for president of the USA.

Oh and blowing off the visit to a military hospital so he could workout in the hotel shows him to be the selfish narcissistic egomaniac people suspect he is.

Obambi should be way up in the polls with all the slavish MSM coverage he's getting and the polls are even. The more people get to know him, the less they like him. I think McCain will win a McGovern style landslide in November.

[Democrat]

paul wrote:

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I wouldn't waste a lot of energy arguing about Obambi's high tax plan. Obambi just blew the election on his rock tour.
His statement yesterday that he is a "citizen of the world" was a show stopper that will be replayed a million times. What an arrogant ****. I thought he was running for president of the USA.
Oh and blowing off the visit to a military hospital so he could workout in the hotel shows him to be the selfish narcissistic egomaniac people suspect he is.
Obambi should be way up in the polls with all the slavish MSM coverage he's getting and the polls are even. The more people get to know him, the less they like him. I think McCain will win a McGovern style landslide in November.

The thing is Obama may get elected. If Obama is elected he will have a 6-12 month grace period after which he will be judged on his performance (lack of).

I suspect Obama will be every bit as effective as Jimmy Carter was (total disaster).

Now, that being said an Obama election would likely lead to a re examination of racial quotas, set asides and affirmative action.

This re examination would highlight the flaws of racial quotas, set asides and affirmative action.
Most likely the racial quotas, set asides and affirmative action programs would be significantly diminished, which would not be a bad thing as the position should go to the most qualified and accomplished candidate (race, country of origin and religion should not be factors)

[Holographic Doctor]

Deadbeat wrote:

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Well, if you rescind the Bush tax cuts, a lot of peopel will be paying taxes they did not pay before
effectively, their taxes will have been raised and it ain't just the $250k + group I am tlaking about

Not if they are limited to those with an annual income of $250,000 or above, as stated. What is so hard to understand about an income threshold?

[paul]

Democrat wrote:

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Now, that being said an Obama election would likely lead to a re examination of racial quotas, set asides and affirmative action.

You're dreaming. As Gerry Ferraro said, Obambi's only qualification is his race. He is the Affirmative Action candidate. His supporters "hope" he won't get us all killed.

The racial grievance sector has already said that his election does not mean America isn't racist or that race preferences aren't needed.

[Holographic Doctor]

Deadbeat wrote:

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Well, if you rescind the Bush tax cuts, a lot of peopel will be paying taxes they did not pay before
effectively, their taxes will have been raised and it ain't just the $250k + group I am tlaking about

Truth:
Barack Obama wants the tax code to favor honest, hard-working people, and he has proposed a $1,000 tax cut for middle class families.

But that hasn’t stopped anonymous smear-mongers from starting misleading rumors like this one.

According to FactCheck.org , a nonpartisan, nonprofit voter advocate group,

“This widely distributed message is so full of misinformation that we find it impossible to believe that it is the result of simple ignorance or carelessness on the part of the writer. Almost nothing it says about Obama's tax proposals is true. We conclude that this deception is deliberate.”(emphasis added)

You can see the entire email—and the point-by-point debunking—on the non-partisan, independent website FactCheck.org :

http://my.barackobama.com/taxesfactcheck

[logic]

Sucks for you. I make over $100K and pay 11% less than you SAY you paid in the 80's. Maybe you should get someone else to do your taxes.....?

Realist wrote:

<quoted text>
I was paying this rate in the late 1980's!
Please do some research before you spout off

[logic]

More like someone posting a bunch of "so called" facts should be the one with references (or "back up" as the uneducated call it). Since there are none, however, I rest my case!

Koolaid drinker wrote:

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You have said the tax info posted was false, do you have anythign to back this up with?

[Realist]

logic wrote:

Sucks for you. I make over $100K and pay 11% less than you SAY you paid in the 80's. Maybe you should get someone else to do your taxes.....?
<quoted text>

Well you have the advantage of the Bush tax cuts. Obviously I did not

Also, I had no house, no kids and no deductions. Those without deductions tend to be taxed more.

[Realist]

logic wrote:

Sucks for you. I make over $100K and pay 11% less than you SAY you paid in the 80's. Maybe you should get someone else to do your taxes.....?
<quoted text>

BTW I now have a much larger income and more deductions

[Packeryman]

FU AH wrote:

Obama quote regarding trip:
"...want to meet the people I will be working with for the next 8 to 10 years"
Does he know there is an 8 yr. limit for the presidency?
JOHN MCCAIN IN '08

All you jerks voting for McCain do a little research on him. http://www.wclt.com/news/special/politics1981... Nothing but a continuation of Bush's failed policies. If you are the real Republicans you claim to be then vote for a real conservative Bob Barr, a lot better than an old man living in the past. Who wants a seventies president, industry wants to turn you out in your 50's. A poll was done of 70yr old and overwhelming they didn't think a man that age was capable of running the country. I think you are burnt out, but the ego is big enough to compel you to think otherwise. Enough said about this loser.

[Nbam]

Packeryman wrote:

<quoted text>All you jerks voting for McCain do a little research on him. http://www.wclt.com/news/special/politics1981... Nothing but a continuation of Bush's failed policies. If you are the real Republicans you claim to be then vote for a real conservative Bob Barr, a lot better than an old man living in the past. Who wants a seventies president, industry wants to turn you out in your 50's. A poll was done of 70yr old and overwhelming they didn't think a man that age was capable of running the country. I think you are burnt out, but the ego is big enough to compel you to think otherwise. Enough said about this loser.

Good post!