Court: Gay Juror was Taken Off Panel Improperly

Jan 21, 2014 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: EDGE

A federal appeals court has ruled that potential jurors may not be removed from a trial during jury selection solely because of sexual orientation.

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Since: Dec 10

El Sobrante, CA

#2 Jan 21, 2014
It's good to see that even with this court stacked with Conservative and Religious extremists, that the issue of treating gay citizens as full citizens, is so inarguably fair that they are doing the right thing.
Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#3 Jan 21, 2014
Next, we'll have those guilty of murder sitting on capital offense trials. There are no limits in a relativist takeover of public morals.

Since: Jan 08

Bangkok, Thailand

#6 Jan 21, 2014
Amazing... bit by bit, tick tock.

How do you like those apples, Ms. Trout?

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#7 Jan 22, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
Next, we'll have those guilty of murder sitting on capital offense trials. There are no limits in a relativist takeover of public morals.
Look everyone!

Troutman has learned to spell "relativist".

Maybe next year he can l;earn what it actually means, and the following year how to use it properly.
Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#8 Jan 22, 2014
The queers here will never pick up a copy of Strunk and White, else they would learn they'll never change the rules of grammar as they've changed the meaning of gay.
Beauty Queen

Kilmarnock, UK

#9 Jan 22, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
gay.
Silly internet troll ...
selection

Albuquerque, NM

#10 Jan 22, 2014
If you're not gay or black then that segment cannot be considered as being on a jury of your peers.
Gremlin

Louisville, KY

#12 Jan 22, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
Next, we'll have those guilty of murder sitting on capital offense trials. There are no limits in a relativist takeover of public morals.
So now you're comparing homosexuals to murderers? LOL! Tell us, Einstein.....how does a person's sexual orientation affect their ability to be a juror? You'll be on this forum crying like a little girl every time homosexuals are treated fairly.

Since: Mar 07

The entire US of A

#14 Jan 22, 2014
Freedom Rings wrote:
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Because you shit........
I don't understand this silly name. It seems that only bigots are interested in the idea of eating such things. Why in the world do their project their perverse fantasies on normal gay folks?

Now, back to the topic. Can you tell us why you don't believe gay tax-paying Americans should sit on a jury?

Since: Mar 07

The entire US of A

#15 Jan 22, 2014
Freedom Rings wrote:
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You ....... hide your sexual orientation all the time,.......
That happens less and less, as people like yourself become fewer and fewer. With your numbers dwindling, the chance of impressionable gay kids running into your irrational fears and feeling the need to hide their orientation to avoid abuse is much lower today.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#21 Jan 22, 2014
Christaliban wrote:
We all know that these extreme, obsessive homophobes are always the one in the controlled experiments who get hardest when shown gay porn. This is the fear under discussion - what they know about themselves and what we know about them.
Define "We all." I'm sure you mean people with your disorder. No one cares what you attempt to think. Here's what we know. We know that you crave to be respected like we are. We know that you want to marry like we do. Problem, you are not like us, never will be. You would be more respected if you did away with those R rated gay pride parades. If you stopped trying to convince people you are just like them, you're not.
WestCoaster

Los Angeles, CA

#22 Jan 22, 2014
We'l stop the Pride Parades when you guys stop being stupid. Deal?!

You refer to MS trout. I'm sure she's all man. Right down to the pink lacey underpanties and matching bra. Although this conversation is giving her a wet spot. Oh M.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#24 Jan 22, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
The queers here will never pick up a copy of Strunk and White, else they would learn they'll never change the rules of grammar as they've changed the meaning of gay.
"Gay" as we use it comes from the 19th Century Dutch maritime slang "ghey" meaning "randy", as in the English maritime slang "a randy tar", meaning "a horny sailor". It entered our euphemism lexicon around the turn of the last century through the ports of the Eastern seaboard, and it's usage was reinforced during WW II.

Well, there's another lesson in historical Gay Linguistic Anthropology to correct yet another of your misconceptions, and demonstrating that you've committed the

Etymological Fallacy
(asserting that the original or historical meaning of a word or phrase is necessarily similar to its actual present-day meaning)

and the

Referential Fallacy
(assuming all words refer to existing things and that the meaning of words reside within the things they refer to, as opposed to words possibly referring no real object or that the meaning of words often comes from how we use them)

Because you have been told this before it is not an error, but intentional; as you are further guilty of the

Red Herring Fallacy
(a speaker attempts to distract an audience by deviating from the topic at hand by introducing a separate argument which the speaker believes will be easier to speak to)

Argumentum ad Hominem
(the evasion of the actual topic by directing the attack at your opponent)

and the

Fallacy of Composition
(assuming that something true of part of a whole must also be true of the whole)

Try again Troutman.
Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#25 Jan 22, 2014
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
"Gay" as we use it comes from the 19th Century Dutch maritime slang "ghey" meaning "randy", as in the English maritime slang "a randy tar", meaning "a horny sailor". It entered our euphemism lexicon around the turn of the last century through the ports of the Eastern seaboard, and it's usage was reinforced during WW II.
Well, there's another lesson in historical Gay Linguistic Anthropology to correct yet another of your misconceptions, and demonstrating that you've committed the
Etymological Fallacy
(asserting that the original or historical meaning of a word or phrase is necessarily similar to its actual present-day meaning)
and the
Referential Fallacy
(assuming all words refer to existing things and that the meaning of words reside within the things they refer to, as opposed to words possibly referring no real object or that the meaning of words often comes from how we use them)
Because you have been told this before it is not an error, but intentional; as you are further guilty of the
Red Herring Fallacy
(a speaker attempts to distract an audience by deviating from the topic at hand by introducing a separate argument which the speaker believes will be easier to speak to)
Argumentum ad Hominem
(the evasion of the actual topic by directing the attack at your opponent)
and the
Fallacy of Composition
(assuming that something true of part of a whole must also be true of the whole)
Try again Troutman.
Liar. If that was true, you'd use the word "ghey." Dope head homosexuals have thought disorders and always have.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#26 Jan 22, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
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Liar. If that was true, you'd use the word "ghey." Dope head homosexuals have thought disorders and always have.
It's pronounced identically.

Here's one for you:

What's the origin of the phrase "Rule of Thumb" ?

“The Guy Who's Here”

Since: Mar 13

Lauderhill, FL

#27 Jan 22, 2014
I can see how there might have been a conflict of interest in this, but simultaneously his being in the minority of the jury panelists, they might have been able to temper the conflict if there were any.
Them not giving the chance initially was wrong.

Since: Jan 08

Bangkok, Thailand

#31 Jan 22, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
The queers here will never pick up a copy of Strunk and White, else they would learn they'll never change the rules of grammar as they've changed the meaning of gay.
Have had a copy of "The Elements of Style" for years. I consider it an excellent book on writing, which brings me to wonder how you ever heard of it.

So why are you questioning the etymology of the word "gay"? My, you do worry about a lot of things you have absolutely no control over. BTW, have you noticed that the once derogatory term "queer," which you use so freely, has actually been claimed back by the gay, I mean queer, community?

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#35 Jan 23, 2014
Freedom Rings wrote:
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Try again. There's no such thing as a homophobe. No one is afraid of any queers. But it Sounds to me like you're the ones who's afraid. You freaks are the ones hiding
You use an incorrect definition, then say the term is incorrect.

Red Herring Fallacy: Straw Man
hi hi

Lancaster, PA

#36 Jan 23, 2014
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
"Gay" as we use it comes from the 19th Century Dutch maritime slang "ghey" meaning "randy", as in the English maritime slang "a randy tar", meaning "a horny sailor". It entered our euphemism lexicon around the turn of the last century through the ports of the Eastern seaboard, and it's usage was reinforced during WW II.
Well, there's another lesson in historical Gay Linguistic Anthropology to correct yet another of your misconceptions, and demonstrating that you've committed the
Etymological Fallacy
(asserting that the original or historical meaning of a word or phrase is necessarily similar to its actual present-day meaning)
and the
Referential Fallacy
(assuming all words refer to existing things and that the meaning of words reside within the things they refer to, as opposed to words possibly referring no real object or that the meaning of words often comes from how we use them)
Because you have been told this before it is not an error, but intentional; as you are further guilty of the
Red Herring Fallacy
(a speaker attempts to distract an audience by deviating from the topic at hand by introducing a separate argument which the speaker believes will be easier to speak to)
Argumentum ad Hominem
(the evasion of the actual topic by directing the attack at your opponent)
and the
Fallacy of Composition
(assuming that something true of part of a whole must also be true of the whole)
Try again Troutman.
Good for you. However, the antigay hate, hate, hate, hate, hate logic. They will *lie without a moment's thought* of any sort of moral code in their attempts to weasel out of things like this.

They have no moral compass whatsoever, and I am not kidding or exaggerating.

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#38 Jan 23, 2014
Freedom Rings wrote:
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Homo = Homosexual - phobia = an extreme irrational fear of. Translation
Fear of Queers. Wasn't so hard, was it?
Right definition. Just that no one is afraid of queers.
True definition of :

ho·mo·pho·bi·a
&#716;h&#333;m&#60 1;&#712;f&#333;b&# 275;&#601;/
noun
noun: homophobia

1.
an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.

I don't see anything about "fear of homosexuals" in there, but I do see the word "irrational". I'm sure you know the meaning of that word.

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