Rove heckled at college speech

Rove heckled at college speech

There are 885 comments on the Politico story from Apr 10, 2013, titled Rove heckled at college speech. In it, Politico reports that:

Protesters repeatedly interrupted a speech by Karl Rove on Tuesday, calling the former White House adviser a "murderer" and "terrorist" for his role in the invasion of Iraq.

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#459 Apr 18, 2013
bottlecap wrote:
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You are correct here----Saddam was a big foe of Osama as well as Islamic Fundamentalism, especially Wahhabism.
i generally research BEFORE i post things...
bottlecap

Orlando, FL

#460 Apr 18, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>i generally research BEFORE i post things...
Good idea.

I don't think one could have found two more STAUNCH and POWERFUL Opponents of Al Qaeda in the entire world, than Saddam Hussein of Iraq and Muammar Gaddafi of Libya. Gaddafi actually was responsible for the first interpol arrest warrent for bin Laden.

http://news.sky.com/story/853539/bin-laden-wa...

"The first international warrant for his arrest was issued in April 1998 following a request not by the Americans or the Europeans, but by Colonel Gaddafi of Libya."

"On March 16, 1998, five months before the al Qaeda bombings of the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, the Libyan Ministry of Justice named Bin Laden as the main suspect in a double murder that had taken place in the Libyan town of Sirte four years earlier."

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#461 Apr 18, 2013
bottlecap wrote:
<quoted text>
Good idea.
I don't think one could have found two more STAUNCH and POWERFUL Opponents of Al Qaeda in the entire world, than Saddam Hussein of Iraq and Muammar Gaddafi of Libya. Gaddafi actually was responsible for the first interpol arrest warrent for bin Laden.
http://news.sky.com/story/853539/bin-laden-wa...
"The first international warrant for his arrest was issued in April 1998 following a request not by the Americans or the Europeans, but by Colonel Gaddafi of Libya."
"On March 16, 1998, five months before the al Qaeda bombings of the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, the Libyan Ministry of Justice named Bin Laden as the main suspect in a double murder that had taken place in the Libyan town of Sirte four years earlier."
most dictators realize the power of religious cult fervor. they rule by a cult of personality and/or a cult of fear.

these guys used both.
bottlecap

Orlando, FL

#462 Apr 18, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>most dictators realize the power of religious cult fervor. they rule by a cult of personality and/or a cult of fear.
these guys used both.
What you say is true. But in this particular cases of "dictator" vs. "religious cult", it was the Religious Cult that attacked the US on 9-11, so it MAKES No Sense for the US to side with the Cult.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#463 Apr 18, 2013
bottlecap wrote:
<quoted text>
What you say is true. But in this particular cases of "dictator" vs. "religious cult", it was the Religious Cult that attacked the US on 9-11, so it MAKES No Sense for the US to side with the Cult.
When did we do that?

Since: Sep 07

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#464 Apr 18, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>Well now, that's interesting.
Based on you new claim, if bushie left saddam alone, then al Zarqawi wouldn't have come in.
Sorry genius. Your 'logic' doesn't make any sense.
Again, why did bushie invade iraq?
let me provide you an analogy..

you have some drug dealers. you got the boss. you got a few punks. the boss supports the punks. he pays them for being his punks. the boss tells the punks to go kill some guy for him. so, the punks kill the guy.

so, who is to blame for the murder? the boss or the punks?

the same relationship exists here between bin laden, Afghanistan, Iraq, and my guess is - several other muslim countries.

I believe Pakistan is one of these other muslim countries.

we know that during the Benghazi incident, there was interaction between muslims in yemen, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and Pakistan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benghazi_inciden...
bottlecap

Orlando, FL

#465 Apr 18, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>When did we do that?
When we get rid of TWO of the "Religious Cults" Biggest Enemies, it follows that the "Religious Cult", benefits.

Now considering that the US was attacked by the "Religious Cult", led by Osama bin Laden, the courses taken by BOTH the Bush and Obama Administrations is nonsensical and catastrophic.

Since: Sep 07

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#466 Apr 18, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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Iraq did NOT support or otherwise assist bin Laden or al-Qai'da, liar. There has NEVER been any link established between Saddam and the events of 9/11.
Quit LYING!
the link was al Zarqawi.

you don't just have someone take power overnight when another person leaves. it shows there was some close connection.

fact is as I see it, al Zarqawi was just one of many links. every other link in the al Qaeda instructure was probably involved too supplying troops and money.

we see this relationship in many other conflicts around the world.

during the Somali uprise, we saw Canadian nationals who were of Somali origins traveling to Somali to fight with their muslim brothers.

we see members of cair here in the usa implementing funding drives and then, sending the proceeds to hamas in Palestine.

saddam was sending money to muslims in Palestine as rewards when muslims there performed terrorists actions against Israel.

when Abdul khan was making his atom bomb for Pakistan, there was a joint effort by many muslims countries to help him make that atom bomb. even little Malaysia and Indonesia were involved.

you don't see a link?

as I see it, you are either blind, muslim, or a cocaine using, marijuana smoking, brain dead, stupid liberal.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#467 Apr 18, 2013
Asian Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
let me provide you an analogy..
you have some drug dealers. you got the boss. you got a few punks. the boss supports the punks. he pays them for being his punks. the boss tells the punks to go kill some guy for him. so, the punks kill the guy.
so, who is to blame for the murder? the boss or the punks?
the same relationship exists here between bin laden, Afghanistan, Iraq, and my guess is - several other muslim countries.
I believe Pakistan is one of these other muslim countries.
we know that during the Benghazi incident, there was interaction between muslims in yemen, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and Pakistan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benghazi_inciden...
anyone involved in a murder is responsible.

what is this interaction between those countries for the attack?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#468 Apr 18, 2013
Asian Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
the link was al Zarqawi.
you don't just have someone take power overnight when another person leaves. it shows there was some close connection.
fact is as I see it, al Zarqawi was just one of many links. every other link in the al Qaeda instructure was probably involved too supplying troops and money.
we see this relationship in many other conflicts around the world.
during the Somali uprise, we saw Canadian nationals who were of Somali origins traveling to Somali to fight with their muslim brothers.
we see members of cair here in the usa implementing funding drives and then, sending the proceeds to hamas in Palestine.
saddam was sending money to muslims in Palestine as rewards when muslims there performed terrorists actions against Israel.
when Abdul khan was making his atom bomb for Pakistan, there was a joint effort by many muslims countries to help him make that atom bomb. even little Malaysia and Indonesia were involved.
you don't see a link?
as I see it, you are either blind, muslim, or a cocaine using, marijuana smoking, brain dead, stupid liberal.
you think Al Zarqawi took over the day after Saddam was ousted? did you Wiki that?

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#469 Apr 18, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>he probably hit Wiki after he posted to 'research'...
his lack of response seems to show he found the truth.
most people do the research, then post...
what you call my "lack of response" is due to the fact that - I have a life outside topix.

know what I mean?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#470 Apr 18, 2013
Asian Guy wrote:
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what you call my "lack of response" is due to the fact that - I have a life outside topix.
know what I mean?
probably got more done today than you did...

Since: Sep 07

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#471 Apr 18, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>you think Al Zarqawi took over the day after Saddam was ousted? did you Wiki that?
Wikipedia is a summary based on a slew of other sources. granted, some of these other sources may be not entirely true. but I believe not all are the case.

it is up to the individual to screen out the nonsense.

bottomline, it is a source of valuable information that cannot be neglected.

only those who do not want to find the truth deny it's place in the pursuit of the truth.

in regards to al Zarqawi, in Wikipedia they point to articles written by the Washington post, a book by the cia director tenet, cbs news, bbc, and a slew of other sources to substantiate their findings.

one only needs to extrapolate the information to realize that muslims from many muslim countries supported al Zarqawi in Iraq.

my take on the relationship between al Qaeda and all these other muslim countries..

essentially, al Qaeda is the "mission impossible" alternative for all the muslim countries. remember the starting introduction? "if you decide to embark on this mission, and get caught, killed. the secretary will disavowed any knowledge of your actions."

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#472 Apr 18, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>probably got more done today than you did...
probably true. since I'm retired.

but my response was to your remark that I was not replying to your comment in a speedy fashion indicated that I had no response. no more. no less.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#473 Apr 18, 2013
Asian Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Wikipedia is a summary based on a slew of other sources. granted, some of these other sources may be not entirely true. but I believe not all are the case.
it is up to the individual to screen out the nonsense.
bottomline, it is a source of valuable information that cannot be neglected.
only those who do not want to find the truth deny it's place in the pursuit of the truth.
in regards to al Zarqawi, in Wikipedia they point to articles written by the Washington post, a book by the cia director tenet, cbs news, bbc, and a slew of other sources to substantiate their findings.
one only needs to extrapolate the information to realize that muslims from many muslim countries supported al Zarqawi in Iraq.
my take on the relationship between al Qaeda and all these other muslim countries..
essentially, al Qaeda is the "mission impossible" alternative for all the muslim countries. remember the starting introduction? "if you decide to embark on this mission, and get caught, killed. the secretary will disavowed any knowledge of your actions."
you sadi he took power overnight after saddam was ousted.

that is not correct.

that was your proof that there was some connection. there wasn't.

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#474 Apr 18, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>i generally research BEFORE i post things...
believe it or not. that is what I do.

I don't always provide the links for everything I write right away because I want to see what is the reaction of others.

part of the fun in debating.

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#475 Apr 18, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>you sadi he took power overnight after saddam was ousted.
that is not correct.
that was your proof that there was some connection. there wasn't.
wheres your link?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#476 Apr 18, 2013
Asian Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
wheres your link?
I need a link? i have a memory. remember the provisional gov't we had that set up the elections that brought him in? seriously?

should you really be talking about this subject either?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#477 Apr 18, 2013
so yes, we all know al queda is bad. we know they weren't in Iraq with Saddam.

do you have a point with all this?
Brad

Manchester, CT

#478 Apr 18, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
so yes, we all know al queda is bad. we know they weren't in Iraq with Saddam.
do you have a point with all this?
Do you ever run out of air?

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