Area gun sales, fears rising

There are 7568 comments on the North Port Sun story from Nov 14, 2012, titled Area gun sales, fears rising. In it, North Port Sun reports that:

Gun stores in Charlotte County have experienced increased sales since Election Day as local gun owners brace for an anticipated restriction of gun laws following the re-election of President Barack Obama.

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Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#6657 May 4, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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No. That's the problem. No such system can exist without subsidization. Ever hear of AmTrack?
It's one thing if the government builds transits like highways that benefit everybody, and another thing when they build railroads that only panders to environmentalists.
The majority of people don't use trains or busses. The majority of people (including business) DO use highways due to the convenience of such transportation.
The problem is that this Socialist wants to take us down a few notches to Europe. Nobody wants such transportation, but I guess DumBama figures that he can convince people to give up their personal vehicle and wait in lines, in the cold winters, and purchase tickets just to go shopping.
A chicken in every pot and a car in every driveway is a milestone in our country. We've exceeded that threshold, and now some environmentalist wants to take us back to the stone age.
I frequently read how progressives want to take us ahead and not behind. Yet when it comes to their agenda, moving in reverse is quite fine with them while they soar on their personal or government jets burning up fuel like Nazi Piglosi when she was speaker, or Al Gore when he attends fundraising events.
"No. That's the problem. No such system can exist without subsidization. Ever hear of AmTrack?
It's one thing if the government builds transits like highways that benefit everybody, and another thing when they build railroads that only panders to environmentalists".

Or building tanks no one wants or needs, that only benefit defense contractors.
Ice Pick Justice

Woodbridge, VA

#6658 May 4, 2013
Marine corp pat wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =rja0iQ3hMkkXX
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/05/03/ms...
Our liberal news lies again. But we expect it.
Very interesting, thanks for the link
Ice Pick Justice

Woodbridge, VA

#6659 May 4, 2013
National Institute of Mental Health to discard DSM and reclassify how mental disorders are diagnosed. Millions of Americans will be declared "potentially unstable" and will be disqualified from gun ownership rights,
http://mindhacks.com/2013/05/03/national-inst...

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#6660 May 4, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>If that were the case then teabaggers would want to cut this:

3/27/08

I'm proud to present to you a brand new member of the Bush Administration War Profiteer Hall of Shame: 22 year-old Efraim Diveroli, who's company AEY has been awarded approximately $300 million in contracts by the Pentagon.

How does a 22 year-old get a multi-million dollar defense contract? you ask.“AEY’s proposal represented the best value to the government," the Army tells the Times.(Never mind that AEY was headed by a guy who'd been busted by the police for carrying a fake ID.)

AEY's fattest contract came in January of last year, when a Pentagon contract made AEY, "which operates out of an unmarked office in Miami Beach,... the main supplier of munitions to Afghanistan’s army and police forces." AEY's VP is 25 and a licensed masseur. AEY also had a $5.7 million contract for rifles for Iraqi forces, among others.

6/15/2004

Top executives of Vice President Dick Cheney's former company, Halliburton, will be asked to testify next month before a House committee investigating potential favoritism and waste in Iraq reconstruction contracts.

Halliburton has been awarded more than $7 billion in Iraq contract work that involves everything from restoring oil production to feeding and housing U.S. troops.

A former logistics specialist said Halliburton charged taxpayers $10,000 a day to house employees in a five-star hotel in Kuwait instead of the $600 per day cost of using the same air-conditioned tents that house U.S. troops.

A former "convoy commander" said Halliburton removed spare tires from its new $85,000 trucks, and gave instructions to abandon or "torch" the vehicles if they had a flat tire.

Waxman also said the cost of a food service contract was reduced by 40% after Halliburton's middleman role was eliminated.

There are numerous individual instances that demonstrate some of the fraud, waste, and overcharging that occurs by private contractors. For example, KBR, a Halliburton subsidiary, bills the government nearly $100 per load of laundry, and charges about $45 for a 6-pack of soda. Halliburton was contracted to supply water for bathing and drinking for the troops, however, the water tested to be contaminated in 63 of the 67 treatment plants because they neglected to chlorinate the water.
Your point? You offer examples from 5 and 9 years ago when we were not even close to the shape we are in now. Pretty pathetic. Regardless, sure, today, any unnecessary program or abused, defrauded program should be cut. Do you have proof conservatives would fight against cutting those programs today?

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#6661 May 4, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>If that were the case teabaggers would want to cut this:

Gov. Rick Scott is asking the Legislature to approve nearly $300 million in incentives funding this year, a massive increase from about $111 million last year.

A Miami-Dade company that received a large tax incentive deal from the state of Florida folded last week, casting another black eye on the state’s job recruitment incentives program.

Banah International Group, a sugar company, was approved for a “qualified target industry” tax credit worth $437,000.

Adding insult to injury: News that Banah’s chairman had been convicted of cocaine trafficking five years before the company was approved for inventives.

Enterprise Florida, which does much of the vetting in Florida’s multimillion-dollar business incentives program, has been under heightened scrutiny in recent weeks as lawmakers have questioned the practice of doling out tax breaks and cash to companies promising to create jobs. EFI said that Banah did not disclose the criminal past of its chairman.

Protein Solutions, a highflying supplier of meat to restaurant chains such as T.G.I. Friday's, abruptly filed for bankruptcy protection in October. Its remaining equipment will be auctioned later this month.

Unsettled economic times have hurt Chicago-area small businesses, and too many to count have gone out of business. What makes Protein Solution's liquidation unusual is that it received fresh capital through a state program just four months before it filed for bankruptcy, financial support many small businesses are begging for.

The Chicago company obtained $7.85 million in June under an Illinois economic development plan meant to foster job creation in low-income communities. The funds were supposed to reduce Protein Solutions' debt and support its continued growth.

Yet the company quickly unraveled, throwing more than 300 employees out of work in a city struggling with high unemployment and leaving suppliers with about $9.5 million in unpaid bills.

A Times investigation has examined and tallied thousands of local incentives granted nationwide and has found that states, counties and cities are giving up more than $80 billion each year to companies. The beneficiaries come from virtually every corner of the corporate world, encompassing oil and coal conglomerates, technology and entertainment companies, banks and big-box retail chains.

The cost of the awards is certainly far higher. A full accounting, The Times discovered, is not possible because the incentives are granted by thousands of government agencies and officials, and many do not know the value of all their awards. Nor do they know if the money was worth it because they rarely track how many jobs are created. Even where officials do track incentives, they acknowledge that it is impossible to know whether the jobs would have been created without the aid.

Over the years, corporations have increasingly exploited that fear, creating a high-stakes bazaar where they pit local officials against one another to get the most lucrative packages. States compete with other states, cities compete with surrounding suburbs, and even small towns have entered the race with the goal of defeating their neighbors.
If you can't understand one governor doesn't represent all Republicans, or conservatives, you need help.
If you can't understand tax credits or tax breaks can yield more taxes by providing more jobs the equals more taxpayers, you need help.
Come to think of it. We knew you needed help long before this.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#6662 May 4, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>Then why are you defending the outlay of $$$$$$, that the recipient said they don't need?

Teabagger "logic"?
I'm not. Show that I have.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6664 May 4, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
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I didn't dispute what FactCheck stated, they stated the sequester was the Ombama administrations idea, based on a quote out of a book,they DIDN'T say he created the legislation.
Congress does that.
Or in this case just 12, known as the super committee.
You don't even know the background of the sequester and your trying to argue.
Do you think George thought of all the details of the "Patriot" Act?
Did you ever hear Republicans making claim that the Patriot Act was the Democrats fault?

FactCheck didn't say they based their opinion on Woodward, they said it is true that DumBama came up with the idea. Apparently, they must have checked out Woodward's claim.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#6665 May 4, 2013
Ice Pick Justice wrote:
National Institute of Mental Health to discard DSM and reclassify how mental disorders are diagnosed. Millions of Americans will be declared "potentially unstable" and will be disqualified from gun ownership rights,
http://mindhacks.com/2013/05/03/national-inst...
I've been saying that would be the case all along.
To top it off, there is new medical information linking certain mental disorders to undiagnosed infectious (zoonotic) diseases. For example there are 16 common links between schizophrenia and Toxoplasmosis infection. So what happens to people that have been banned from purchasing firearms due to a mental disorder get proper medical treatment and are cured? They are permanently banned from firearms purchases even though they are perfectly sane after the underlying cause of their mental issue was addressed.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6666 May 4, 2013
blackprincess70 wrote:
<quoted text>
you parrot Rush very well he will be proud...that is the same stuff verbatim what he puts out...uninformed, ignorant tea party
You never listened to Rush for any significant amount of time. Otherwise you wouldn't be parroting the same left-wing crap we've been hearing about Rush for the last 20 years.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#6667 May 4, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>Did you ever hear Republicans making claim that the Patriot Act was the Democrats fault?

FactCheck didn't say they based their opinion on Woodward, they said it is true that DumBama came up with the idea. Apparently, they must have checked out Woodward's claim.
Excellent point!
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6668 May 4, 2013
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
Excellent point!
Thank you sir.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#6670 May 4, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
<quoted text>
Your point? You offer examples from 5 and 9 years ago when we were not even close to the shape we are in now. Pretty pathetic. Regardless, sure, today, any unnecessary program or abused, defrauded program should be cut. Do you have proof conservatives would fight against cutting those programs today?
TANKS.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#6671 May 4, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
<quoted text>
If you can't understand one governor doesn't represent all Republicans, or conservatives, you need help.
If you can't understand tax credits or tax breaks can yield more taxes by providing more jobs the equals more taxpayers, you need help.
Come to think of it. We knew you needed help long before this.
So..........where are them U.S. Jobs at?

"Tricle down" you know (claimed)
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#6672 May 4, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
<quoted text>
If you can't understand one governor doesn't represent all Republicans, or conservatives, you need help.
If you can't understand tax credits or tax breaks can yield more taxes by providing more jobs the equals more taxpayers, you need help.
Come to think of it. We knew you needed help long before this.
That would be Reaganomics, which hasn't helped anyone.

If you think it did, YOU need help.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#6673 May 4, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>So..........where are them U.S. Jobs at?

"Tricle down" you know (claimed)
Ask your Messiah! It's not like the liberals are allowing the added tax breaks.
Regardless, despite what you might think, the US is still the largest producing country in the world. It would produce even more if allowed to. If we place tariffs on imported products and allow tax credits for domestically produced goods, things will get better.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#6674 May 4, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
<quoted text>
Ask your Messiah! It's not like the liberals are allowing the added tax breaks.
Regardless, despite what you might think, the US is still the largest producing country in the world. It would produce even more if allowed to. If we place tariffs on imported products and allow tax credits for domestically produced goods, things will get better.
"Ask your Messiah"!?

I pray to it each morning, that it has allowed the light to shine, each day.

The Sun is the star at the center of the Solar System. It is almost perfectly spherical and consists of hot plasma interwoven with magnetic fields. It has a diameter of about 1,392,684 km, about 109 times that of Earth, and its mass (about 21030 kilograms, 330,000 times that of Earth) accounts for about 99.86% of the total mass of the Solar System. Chemically, about three quarters of the Sun's mass consists of hydrogen, while the rest is mostly helium. The remainder (1.69%, which nonetheless equals 5,628 times the mass of Earth) consists of heavier elements, including oxygen, carbon, neon and iron, among others.

Without it, no life in your neighborhood.

Or anywhere else on earth.

"The US is still the largest producing country in the world. It would produce even more if allowed to. If we place tariffs on imported products and allow tax credits for domestically produced goods, things will get better".

We shouldn't have to place tariffs on foreign made imported goods, just place tarriffs on Items that are sold back to us by American based companies that use foreign labor and then try to pass it off as "American".

We need truth.

I would rather buy a cheap product such as xzyklikpol jeans, that I know is made overseas than a pair of jeans made in Mexico that say's Levi's.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6675 May 4, 2013
Dr-Sniper wrote:
<quoted text>
Ask your Messiah! It's not like the liberals are allowing the added tax breaks.
Regardless, despite what you might think, the US is still the largest producing country in the world. It would produce even more if allowed to. If we place tariffs on imported products and allow tax credits for domestically produced goods, things will get better.
Bush tried that with imported steel when they were putting our guys out of work. The countries that we placed tariffs on turned around and placed tariffs on our goods going into their country. Even though we run a trade deficit, our exports could really hurt us, and Bush backed down.

Okay, so we place tariffs anyway. What happens then? Then the consumer will have to pay more for imported products which isn't a good plan given our economy.

The only thing that makes sense is for us to make products cheaper. The problems is we can't find workers to work cheap enough to do that. It seems like a lose-lose situation.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#6676 May 4, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Bush tried that with imported steel when they were putting our guys out of work. The countries that we placed tariffs on turned around and placed tariffs on our goods going into their country. Even though we run a trade deficit, our exports could really hurt us, and Bush backed down.
Okay, so we place tariffs anyway. What happens then? Then the consumer will have to pay more for imported products which isn't a good plan given our economy.
The only thing that makes sense is for us to make products cheaper. The problems is we can't find workers to work cheap enough to do that. It seems like a lose-lose situation.
"The consumer will have to pay more for imported products which isn't a good plan given our economy".

Then don't buy imported products and is an excellent plan for our economy.

"The problems is we can't find workers to work cheap enough to do that".

Sure we can, minimum wage was never meant to be a "living" wage according to teabaggers.

Then again either was $0.25 hr. but that's what they want to pay.

That's a teabagger "living" wage for Americans.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#6677 May 4, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>"Ask your Messiah"!?

I pray to it each morning, that it has allowed the light to shine, each day.

The Sun is the star at the center of the Solar System. It is almost perfectly spherical and consists of hot plasma interwoven with magnetic fields. It has a diameter of about 1,392,684 km, about 109 times that of Earth, and its mass (about 2×1030 kilograms, 330,000 times that of Earth) accounts for about 99.86% of the total mass of the Solar System. Chemically, about three quarters of the Sun's mass consists of hydrogen, while the rest is mostly helium. The remainder (1.69%, which nonetheless equals 5,628 times the mass of Earth) consists of heavier elements, including oxygen, carbon, neon and iron, among others.

Without it, no life in your neighborhood.

Or anywhere else on earth.

"The US is still the largest producing country in the world. It would produce even more if allowed to. If we place tariffs on imported products and allow tax credits for domestically produced goods, things will get better".

We shouldn't have to place tariffs on foreign made imported goods, just place tarriffs on Items that are sold back to us by American based companies that use foreign labor and then try to pass it off as "American".

We need truth.

I would rather buy a cheap product such as xzyklikpol jeans, that I know is made overseas than a pair of jeans made in Mexico that say's Levi's.
Didn't realize all that about Obama.

Hey, I'm for placing tariffs on re-entry products as well. I have no problem with that. But don't act like that scenario is hidden. If people bother to look, the label states made in_______ or made in USA using materials from ______. It's legally required. People should look before they buy.
I refuse to buy a cheaply made foreign product. Made in China never gets considered. Made in Mexico either. The only foreign products I will buy are German firearms, German optics, Israeli firearms, Italian leather products, and Hungarian leather products. Otherwise, it's made in USA, homemade, or done without.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#6678 May 4, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>Bush tried that with imported steel when they were putting our guys out of work. The countries that we placed tariffs on turned around and placed tariffs on our goods going into their country. Even though we run a trade deficit, our exports could really hurt us, and Bush backed down.

Okay, so we place tariffs anyway. What happens then? Then the consumer will have to pay more for imported products which isn't a good plan given our economy.

The only thing that makes sense is for us to make products cheaper. The problems is we can't find workers to work cheap enough to do that. It seems like a lose-lose situation.
I agree and disagree. Ideally, yes, we would produce products cheaper. Unfortunately, there is a limit to how cheaply we can produce products without sacrificing quality.
Although prices may be higher in a poor economy, the demand would require more supply, which creates jobs, which improves the economy. The problem is amnesty. That will be the future of low cost production.
Not lose lose. It's put foot down and don't budge.

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