Area gun sales, fears rising

Nov 14, 2012 Full story: North Port Sun 7,568

Gun stores in Charlotte County have experienced increased sales since Election Day as local gun owners brace for an anticipated restriction of gun laws following the re-election of President Barack Obama.

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#6127 Apr 4, 2013
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>BTW, whiz-kid, the highest areas of gun violence in our country are the areas with the strictest gun laws: Washington, DC, Chicago (home of messiah), detroit, MI, the list goes on. But, hey, don't use facts or anything just pluck a few more heart strings to sway your debate.
Exactly and why the Criminal Activity thrives and has proven in Chicago where there is Gun Control Laws in place but the laws affect and are only respected by the law abiding citizens which the Chicago Gun Control Laws mean nothing to criminals which the Criminals have proved which is what the Liberal Democrats like Dianne Feinstein & the others like her don't understand.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6128 Apr 4, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly and why the Criminal Activity thrives and has proven in Chicago where there is Gun Control Laws in place but the laws affect and are only respected by the law abiding citizens which the Chicago Gun Control Laws mean nothing to criminals which the Criminals have proved which is what the Liberal Democrats like Dianne Feinstein & the others like her don't understand.
I read an article a few weeks ago about the penalties for illegally carrying a firearm in Chicago. It seems that the amount of violations are so vast that in order to lock up every offender, you would literally have to put a fence around the entire city. It's a common thing there.

So what you have is a government helpless to lock up the bad guys with guns, and the same government resists letting good guys have guns. The bad guys have nothing to fear while the good guys don't even want an outstanding parking ticket in their name.

The key word for crime reduction is deterrent, not invitation. Since they don't have enough prison space for those gun offenders, then the only deterrent can be to make gun laws and carrying weapons more liberal for the non-criminal element in their society.

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#6129 Apr 4, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
I read an article a few weeks ago about the penalties for illegally carrying a firearm in Chicago. It seems that the amount of violations are so vast that in order to lock up every offender, you would literally have to put a fence around the entire city. It's a common thing there.
So what you have is a government helpless to lock up the bad guys with guns, and the same government resists letting good guys have guns. The bad guys have nothing to fear while the good guys don't even want an outstanding parking ticket in their name.
The key word for crime reduction is deterrent, not invitation. Since they don't have enough prison space for those gun offenders, then the only deterrent can be to make gun laws and carrying weapons more liberal for the non-criminal element in their society.
another thing since 1931 the mayors of Chicago have all been Democrats and doesn't say much for the Democrat Party and their so called Modern or Pseudo Liberalism and nothing Liberal about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayor_of_Chicago...

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#6130 Apr 5, 2013
Google
Armed Citizen Project.

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Chesapeake, VA

#6131 Apr 5, 2013
Looks like spocko got his rearend handed to him and he took flight from this thread.

I guess plucking heart strings ain't cuttin' it for him here.

Facts can be a little frightening to libby liars.

LOL
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#6132 Apr 5, 2013
Clearly your life is truly a comedy of errors, you really thing anyone is going to listen to friggen buffoon like you? Now that some rightwing school districts are falsifying records, whom can we believe? Perhaps schools ought to return to more useful studies such as reading, writing and arithmetic or how about defensive driving?
When will the National Rifler fanatics acknowledge that the 2nd amendment originated when our weapon of choice was a single-shot muzzle-loader vs. the bow and arrow. So what’s next after AKRs… a mortar in every garage?
And now we could have local police training teachers to use pistols to defend our students. Wow – what a country! Studies have shown that the average law enforcer is far from an accurate shot let alone a peace-loving teacher. We already knew he was too old and overweight to catch a fleeing teen-ager. Seems to me we need some sensible thinking to counter the gun manufacturers or do we really think the NRA blowhards are some sort of neutral and unbiased party to be trusted?
Since Sandy Hook there have been about 1,280 gun deaths in the United States. Among the top 23 developed countries, the United States has 80 percent of all deaths by guns; 86 percent of all women killed with guns are in the United States and 87 percent of all children killed with guns are in the United States. A few years ago people got fed up with all the deaths by drunk drivers, and we now have sensible laws that have saved countless lives. And, I’m almost certain to realize that bars and liquor stores have not gone out of business. Sensible laws on guns are badly needed, replacing the hotchpotch of useless gun laws that we have now! What we don’t need are fools like you and your ilk trying to turn us into a society where it’s every man for himself and the guys with the biggest and baddest gun makes all the rules.

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Chesapeake, VA

#6133 Apr 5, 2013
Spocko wrote:
Clearly your life is truly a comedy of errors, you really thing anyone is going to listen to friggen buffoon like you? Now that some rightwing school districts are falsifying records, whom can we believe? Perhaps schools ought to return to more useful studies such as reading, writing and arithmetic or how about defensive driving?
When will the National Rifler fanatics acknowledge that the 2nd amendment originated when our weapon of choice was a single-shot muzzle-loader vs. the bow and arrow. So what’s next after AKRs… a mortar in every garage?
And now we could have local police training teachers to use pistols to defend our students. Wow – what a country! Studies have shown that the average law enforcer is far from an accurate shot let alone a peace-loving teacher. We already knew he was too old and overweight to catch a fleeing teen-ager. Seems to me we need some sensible thinking to counter the gun manufacturers or do we really think the NRA blowhards are some sort of neutral and unbiased party to be trusted?
Since Sandy Hook there have been about 1,280 gun deaths in the United States. Among the top 23 developed countries, the United States has 80 percent of all deaths by guns; 86 percent of all women killed with guns are in the United States and 87 percent of all children killed with guns are in the United States. A few years ago people got fed up with all the deaths by drunk drivers, and we now have sensible laws that have saved countless lives. And, I’m almost certain to realize that bars and liquor stores have not gone out of business. Sensible laws on guns are badly needed, replacing the hotchpotch of useless gun laws that we have now! What we don’t need are fools like you and your ilk trying to turn us into a society where it’s every man for himself and the guys with the biggest and baddest gun makes all the rules.
This so easy to pick apart.
1- Name calling demonstrates you lack of debating abilities. You're like the playground bully upset because thoses around you are too clever and makes you look foolish so you call names or use violence.
2- An awful lot of teachers are getting caught and diciplined for fixing/rigging standardized test scores to obtain performance bonuses.
3- Private schools CONSTANTLY outperform government schools on standardized testing and get more scholarship funding over government educated students.
4- The 2nd Amendment was put in place to ensure that the government did NOT have more power than the people and the people could use the well regulated militia (made up of Citizens) to overthrow that tyranical and out of control government. Skip a mortar, I'll take an F22 raptor in my garage instead.
5- Law enforcement have strict guidelines on when to draw a weapon. One is not to fire on a fleeing subject. those that do are severly diciplined. they are also required to maintain a level of shooting proficiency or lose their job (unless of course it's unionized, then you get overweight and poor marksmen)
6-Your stats are a bald-faced lie. More deaths occur by blunt instruments than firearms. With Washington, DC, Chicago and Detroit leading the way for gun violence. You know, the places with the strictest gun laws?
7- It is every man for himself in a self responsible society. Society can handily deal with those that want to live outside of personal responsibility. unitl the government steps in and the criminal becomes the "victim" and the victim becomes the criminal.

I don't know where or how you were educated, but your view of a free society has an awful lot to be desired.

you rule you and yours anyway you want. Just don't dictate to me how I'm to live if I live without infringing anybody's unalienable rights of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

“Protest / support the marchers”

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#6134 Apr 5, 2013
Where Is My America wrote:
<quoted text>You don't get it.
Capitalism made this country strong.
The socialist nations have dropped like flies.
Both charity and greed are in the hearts of men and it is up to people as individuals to chose their course.
No, you don’t get it because you’re a mindless puppet of the Elite. You made it clear that you’ve chosen evil.

Capitalism by itself is death to democracy. Confused? Awww… poor wittle puppet.

Socialist nations are doing well because their people work together for the common good. That’s the intelligent way to live life, not like conservative parasites who are out to destroy everybody else.

Bible Belt false Christians ignore the Bible and follow what their ministers tell them. That’s why they vote Republican, in support of Satan’s one-world government, the New World Order, and THAT is the whole purpose behind the Elite’s manipulation of our nation’s village idiots.
Mark 3:24 King James 2000 Bible And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#6135 Apr 5, 2013
Protester wrote:
<quoted text>
No, you don’t get it because you’re a mindless puppet of the Elite. You made it clear that you’ve chosen evil.
Capitalism by itself is death to democracy. Confused? Awww… poor wittle puppet.
Socialist nations are doing well because their people work together for the common good. That’s the intelligent way to live life, not like conservative parasites who are out to destroy everybody else.
Bible Belt false Christians ignore the Bible and follow what their ministers tell them. That’s why they vote Republican, in support of Satan’s one-world government, the New World Order, and THAT is the whole purpose behind the Elite’s manipulation of our nation’s village idiots.
Mark 3:24 King James 2000 Bible And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
What a bunch of BS! Socialist nations are doing well????? Have you watched a newscast anytime in the last year? Most of the Socialist EU govts are completely bankrupt and on the verge of collapse. You need to go home. Your village is missing their idiot.

“Protest / support the marchers”

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#6136 Apr 5, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
What good is offering proof to you people? All you do is discredit it because of the source instead of proving it wrong.
If you want to talk about brainwashing, find me one DumBama supporter that says he's doing a terrible job or that all his shortcomings are not Bush's or the Republicans fault. You won't. You are all programmed to respond that nothing is DumBama's fault and everything he does is sincere and good for the people of this country. Why was he reelected in spite of him doing a terrible job? Brainwashing.
With so many people posting the truth, you have no excuse for continuing to be deceived. It’s a waste of my time to try to teach a pig to sing.
People,
The truth is so clear.
Conservative morons keep voting for Republicans who make the rich richer, and destroy the middle and poor classes. In other words, they’re destroying their own children’s futures.
They keep losing their rights, as their leaders keep making more abusive laws, but the idiots blame liberals who want the opposite of a police state. Liberals are smart enough to know that sitting in a trailer with lots of guns is a moron’s idea of self defense. Those same morons believe that they’re going to have to shoot people (probably after people wake up to what conservatives have done to them), but their real enemy is the government. They’re so braindead they actually believe they can defend themselves against troops ?!?

AGAIN, Obama was reelected because Republicans took a dive by putting forth candidates which they knew would lose.
The Elite KNOWS there is no solution to what Bush did, and they know their idiot voters won’t ever figure that out. So, they buy time, as they continue to destroy democracy and consolidate their power, then they can destroy their voters because they won’t need them any more. It will be too late to fight back.

People, don’t be one of the truly braindead T(Treason) Party or Republican lunatics. Join the intelligent protesters who see the real enemy, the Fed, the Elite, the ones the lunatics support.
(next post)

“Protest / support the marchers”

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#6137 Apr 5, 2013
'Federal Reserve'= Rothschilds' private company
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/T8KSPBP6J7ENM2L...

Wall St. protesters are heroes
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TJDLBB...

“Protest / support the marchers”

Since: Jan 09

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#6138 Apr 5, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Before quoting the Holy Bible, why don't you find out what Jesus meant by that quote before looking ignorant? I'll give you a hint: He didn't mean to pay taxes.
What do the greedy have to do with the needy? Explain that one. God did call Satan the father of lies, but of course, that was before he created DumBama.
Why are there so many needy? Because people are used to living off of taxpayers. Or didn't you bother to read the link I provided about the so-called poor? People buy things and have families they can't afford. They do this while living paycheck to paycheck if they bother working at all. What do you think caused the housing collapse?
The explanation of Render Unto Caesar:
http://www.thinkingfaith.org/articles/2009080...
Matthew 22:
15Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words.
16They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians.“Teacher,” they said,“we know that you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren’t swayed by others, because you pay no attention to who they are.
17Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay the imperial taxa to Caesar or not?”
18But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said,“You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me?
19Show me the coin used for paying the tax.” They brought him a denarius,
20and he asked them,“Whose image is this? And whose inscription?”
21“Caesar’s,” they replied.
Then he said to them,“So give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.”
22When they heard this, they were amazed. So they left him and went away.

John 21:17 He said to him the third time,“Simon, son of Jonah, do you love Me?”
And he said to Him,“Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You.” Jesus said to him,“Feed My sheep

Mark 8:
4 Then His disciples answered Him,“How can one satisfy these people with bread here in the wilderness?”
5 He asked them,“How many loaves do you have?” And they said,“Seven.”
6 So He commanded the multitude to sit down on the ground. And He took the seven loaves and gave thanks, broke them and gave them to His disciples to set before them; and they set them before the multitude.
7 They also had a few small fish; and having blessed them, He said to set them also before them.
8 So they ate and were filled, and they took up seven large baskets of leftover fragments.
9 Now those who had eaten were about four thousand.

Bottom line:
What you parasites hate the most is accountability for your crimes against humanity. You justify all your murders, then cry like babies when somebody suggests that you compensate the victims of your treason.
You’re truly a moron:“What do you think caused the housing collapse?” YOU DID, AND YOU’RE SO DUMB YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT, and you never will.

“Protest / support the marchers”

Since: Jan 09

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#6139 Apr 5, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, we are supporting parasites like you. Every week I look at what’s taken from my earnings with the knowledge it’s going to parasites.
Your posts are always stupidity based on total ignorance.
You're not only the one who's a parasite, you're so dumb you can't comprehend what that means, even though it's been explained so many times.

“Protest / support the marchers”

Since: Jan 09

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#6140 Apr 5, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
That’s bullshit and you know it. Get off your lazy ass and work. With effort you can meet success.
You're not only too lazy to protest, you're too dumb to know why you should be WORKING to save this country instead of sitting on your lazy azz and spreading the filth the Elite feeds you.
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#6141 Apr 5, 2013
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>This so easy to pick apart.
1- Name calling demonstrates you lack of debating abilities. You're like the playground bully upset because thoses around you are too clever and makes you look foolish so you call names or use violence.
2- An awful lot of teachers are getting caught and diciplined for fixing/rigging standardized test scores to obtain performance bonuses.
3- Private schools CONSTANTLY outperform government schools on standardized testing and get more scholarship funding over government educated students.
4- The 2nd Amendment was put in place to ensure that the government did NOT have more power than the people and the people could use the well regulated militia (made up of Citizens) to overthrow that tyranical and out of control government. Skip a mortar, I'll take an F22 raptor in my garage instead.
5- Law enforcement have strict guidelines on when to draw a weapon. One is not to fire on a fleeing subject. those that do are severly diciplined. they are also required to maintain a level of shooting proficiency or lose their job (unless of course it's unionized, then you get overweight and poor marksmen)
6-Your stats are a bald-faced lie. More deaths occur by blunt instruments than firearms. With Washington, DC, Chicago and Detroit leading the way for gun violence. You know, the places with the strictest gun laws?
7- It is every man for himself in a self responsible society. Society can handily deal with those that want to live outside of personal responsibility. unitl the government steps in and the criminal becomes the "victim" and the victim becomes the criminal.
I don't know where or how you were educated, but your view of a free society has an awful lot to be desired.
you rule you and yours anyway you want. Just don't dictate to me how I'm to live if I live without infringing anybody's unalienable rights of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
You should quit while your ahead, clearly if it wasn't for your cranium you'd have to carry a pile of dog shit in a bggy ...:-/
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6142 Apr 5, 2013
Protester wrote:
<quoted text>

Bottom line:
What you parasites hate the most is accountability for your crimes against humanity. You justify all your murders, then cry like babies when somebody suggests that you compensate the victims of your treason.
You’re truly a moron:“What do you think caused the housing collapse?” YOU DID, AND YOU’RE SO DUMB YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT, and you never will.
Nobody has any idea what you're talking about. You are a paranoid skitso.

Now what kind of crimes against humanity do you speak of here? Give us an example or two. Enlighten all of us.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6143 Apr 5, 2013
Protester wrote:
<quoted text>
With so many people posting the truth, you have no excuse for continuing to be deceived. It’s a waste of my time to try to teach a pig to sing.
People,
The truth is so clear.
Conservative morons keep voting for Republicans who make the rich richer, and destroy the middle and poor classes. In other words, they’re destroying their own children’s futures.
They keep losing their rights, as their leaders keep making more abusive laws, but the idiots blame liberals who want the opposite of a police state. Liberals are smart enough to know that sitting in a trailer with lots of guns is a moron’s idea of self defense. Those same morons believe that they’re going to have to shoot people (probably after people wake up to what conservatives have done to them), but their real enemy is the government. They’re so braindead they actually believe they can defend themselves against troops ?!?
AGAIN, Obama was reelected because Republicans took a dive by putting forth candidates which they knew would lose.
The Elite KNOWS there is no solution to what Bush did, and they know their idiot voters won’t ever figure that out. So, they buy time, as they continue to destroy democracy and consolidate their power, then they can destroy their voters because they won’t need them any more. It will be too late to fight back.
People, don’t be one of the truly braindead T(Treason) Party or Republican lunatics. Join the intelligent protesters who see the real enemy, the Fed, the Elite, the ones the lunatics support.
(next post)
When you rob Peter to pay Paul, the Paul's of your society generally have no objection.

DumBama and his policies have transferred more money from the working and wealthy to the lazy who suck off of the system. What they couldn't suck out, they borrowed from China and various other places putting us in debt that's almost impossible to repay.

So you think it's moronic to believe owning firearms is protection from the government? I like your plan better: give them more power instead. Great thinking on your part. You are certainly no moron. LOL!

Sure the economy could recover, if we didn't vote in this big eared moron who thinks the way to recovery is to attack and tax businesses to death. What a genius you elected. The same genius that thought the way to have healthcare coverage for the lazy is to increase the cost of healthcare coverage for everybody else. Talk about attacks on the middle-class, did you know that 80% of those with healthcare plans get them through their employers? Now those employers are dropping coverage for their workers who can't afford coverage on their own. OH! and did you hear? Part of Commie Care requires people who do get healthcare coverage through their employer to pay income tax on those plans. Goodbye income tax refunds for most people.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#6144 Apr 5, 2013
Spocko wrote:
Clearly your life is truly a comedy of errors, you really thing anyone is going to listen to friggen buffoon like you? Now that some rightwing school districts are falsifying records, whom can we believe? Perhaps schools ought to return to more useful studies such as reading, writing and arithmetic or how about defensive driving?
When will the National Rifler fanatics acknowledge that the 2nd amendment originated when our weapon of choice was a single-shot muzzle-loader vs. the bow and arrow. So what’s next after AKRs… a mortar in every garage?
And now we could have local police training teachers to use pistols to defend our students. Wow – what a country! Studies have shown that the average law enforcer is far from an accurate shot let alone a peace-loving teacher. We already knew he was too old and overweight to catch a fleeing teen-ager. Seems to me we need some sensible thinking to counter the gun manufacturers or do we really think the NRA blowhards are some sort of neutral and unbiased party to be trusted?
Since Sandy Hook there have been about 1,280 gun deaths in the United States. Among the top 23 developed countries, the United States has 80 percent of all deaths by guns; 86 percent of all women killed with guns are in the United States and 87 percent of all children killed with guns are in the United States. A few years ago people got fed up with all the deaths by drunk drivers, and we now have sensible laws that have saved countless lives.
True. But relating to guns, the law abiding citizens decided not to drink and drive. But that didn't stop all drunk driving accidents and deaths. This is because people with no regard for the law won't obey any new law about drinking and driving. Same holds true with guns. Do you really believe that making more gun laws will work on the criminal? Of course not. It only restricts law abiding citizens who wouldn't use guns for harm in the first place.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#6145 Apr 5, 2013
Protester wrote:
<quoted text>
No, you don’t get it because you’re a mindless puppet of the Elite. You made it clear that you’ve chosen evil.
Capitalism by itself is death to democracy. Confused? Awww… poor wittle puppet.
Socialist nations are doing well because their people work together for the common good. That’s the intelligent way to live life, not like conservative parasites who are out to destroy everybody else.
Bible Belt false Christians ignore the Bible and follow what their ministers tell them. That’s why they vote Republican, in support of Satan’s one-world government, the New World Order, and THAT is the whole purpose behind the Elite’s manipulation of our nation’s village idiots.
Mark 3:24 King James 2000 Bible And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
What socialist nation is doing well ?

I can wait for your answer ,I need a laugh.

Who is Satan ,one of your KJB friends ?
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#6146 Apr 5, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
True. But relating to guns, the law abiding citizens decided not to drink and drive. But that didn't stop all drunk driving accidents and deaths. This is because people with no regard for the law won't obey any new law about drinking and driving. Same holds true with guns. Do you really believe that making more gun laws will work on the criminal? Of course not. It only restricts law abiding citizens who wouldn't use guns for harm in the first place.
Your logic is seriously flawed it assumes that as system of law is useless what you are proposing is known as anarchy. "Law" is a system of rules a society sets to maintain order and protect harm to persons and property. No one, in their right mind anyhow, is worried about the "law abiding citizen" except, like I said, a law abiding citizen is only a law abiding citizen until he/she is not ...

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