Inside the Gay-Marriage Proposal at the White House

Dec 17, 2012 Full story: The Atlantic 20

Over the weekend, U.S. Marine Corps captain Matthew Phelps proposed to the love of his life, Ben Schock, at the White House.

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#1 Dec 17, 2012
YAY! Best wishes to the happy couple!

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#2 Dec 17, 2012
Congrats!

It would have been even better had he been in uniform.

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#3 Dec 17, 2012
A jubilant congrats to the couple !!!

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#4 Dec 17, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Congrats!
It would have been even better had he been in uniform.
It certainly would have been prettier, and I'm glad that he didn't.

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#5 Dec 17, 2012
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It certainly would have been prettier, and I'm glad that he didn't.
Why not? He was there as part of a military function; it would have been totally appropraite for him to have been in uniform.

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#6 Dec 17, 2012
btw: Who's the cretin who thinks jeans and a hoodie are appropriate attire for the White House.

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#7 Dec 17, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Why not? He was there as part of a military function; it would have been totally appropraite for him to have been in uniform.
Think about how it would play.

It wasn't "a military function", but that of a private association of military personnel.
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#8 Dec 17, 2012
snyper wrote:
btw: Who's the cretin who thinks jeans and a hoodie are appropriate attire for the White House.
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trayvon obama

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#9 Dec 18, 2012
snyper wrote:
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Think about how it would play.
It wasn't "a military function", but that of a private association of military personnel.
It would play like any other time people see servicemembers in uniform. We don't only wear our uniforms while on duty you know.

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#10 Dec 19, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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It would play like any other time people see servicemembers in uniform. We don't only wear our uniforms while on duty you know.
As long as DOMA stands, the uniform may not be used.

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#11 Dec 19, 2012
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As long as DOMA stands, the uniform may not be used.
Ummm, no.

Servicemembers can legally marry; they can even do so on base in states which allow same-sex couples to marry. That would include D.C.

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#12 Dec 19, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Ummm, no.
Servicemembers can legally marry; they can even do so on base in states which allow same-sex couples to marry. That would include D.C.
It would be considered inappropriate for an active service person to wear the uniform.

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#13 Dec 19, 2012
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It would be considered inappropriate for an active service person to wear the uniform.
IN THE WHITE HOUSE??

I can't think of a more appropriate place to wear my uniform.

You haven't been around the military much, have you?

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#14 Dec 19, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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IN THE WHITE HOUSE??
I can't think of a more appropriate place to wear my uniform.
You haven't been around the military much, have you?
Very, very much.

Protocol can be snicky.

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#15 Dec 20, 2012
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Very, very much.
Protocol can be snicky.
There is no military protocol which would discourage a servicemember from wearing the uniform while visiting the White House. In fact it's highly ENCOURAGED.

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#16 Dec 20, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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There is no military protocol which would discourage a servicemember from wearing the uniform while visiting the White House. In fact it's highly ENCOURAGED.
That's one protocol compartment. The other one is an off-duty gathering of a civilian association for military personnel. A third is engaging in an activity which is not permitted by Federal Law and, as a result, the UCMJ.

In politics, when you have to explain you're actually defending.

He chose the wiser, less controversial course that focused not on a side issue of military propriety, but on the Marriage Equality issue itself ... alone ... all by itself ... with nothing else to distract.

Sniper rather than carpet bomb.

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#17 Dec 20, 2012
snyper wrote:
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That's one protocol compartment. The other one is an off-duty gathering of a civilian association for military personnel. A third is engaging in an activity which is not permitted by Federal Law and, as a result, the UCMJ.
In politics, when you have to explain you're actually defending.
He chose the wiser, less controversial course that focused not on a side issue of military propriety, but on the Marriage Equality issue itself ... alone ... all by itself ... with nothing else to distract.
Sniper rather than carpet bomb.
Nope, still wrong.

Getting married to someone of the same sex is NOT banned by federal law (or the UCMJ), it simply isn't recognized by the federal government. I would think you could understand the difference.

Sometimes it's necessary to carpet bomb to get the job done.
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#18 Dec 20, 2012
snyper wrote:
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That's one protocol compartment. The other one is an off-duty gathering of a civilian association for military personnel. A third is engaging in an activity which is not permitted by Federal Law and, as a result, the UCMJ.
In politics, when you have to explain you're actually defending.
He chose the wiser, less controversial course that focused not on a side issue of military propriety, but on the Marriage Equality issue itself ... alone ... all by itself ... with nothing else to distract.
Sniper rather than carpet bomb.
Its fun to watch YOU have to dance with Sheeple for a bit...

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#19 Dec 20, 2012
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Nope, still wrong.
Getting married to someone of the same sex is NOT banned by federal law (or the UCMJ), it simply isn't recognized by the federal government. I would think you could understand the difference.
Sometimes it's necessary to carpet bomb to get the job done.
You don't see it, so, whatever.

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#20 Dec 20, 2012
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You don't see it, so, whatever.
Having spent 20+ years in the military, I know exactly when you can and can't wear the uniform.

There is ZERO reason Capt Phelps could not have been in uniform at the time in question.

ZERO.

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