Senate rejects Paul Ryan budget

Mar 21, 2013 Full story: CBS News 67

The GOP's most ardent tea partyers - Rand Paul of Kentucky, Ted Cruz of Texas and Mike Lee of Utah - opposed the measure, which projects a balanced budget in a decade but relies on $600 billion-plus in tax revenues on the wealthy enacted in January to do it.

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Sterkfontein Swartkrans

Pennington, NJ

#21 Mar 22, 2013
The Eddie Munster lookalike loses again!!
fatbacksx

United States

#22 Mar 22, 2013
It's all about the same unopened can of contrived s--t and the same unpaved road. All we can do is use the scripted daily events as a entertaining super sh---y sitcom since we don't have the power to change squat. A lot like chinas american corporation adopted business plan.
Kyle Broadneck

Cincinnati, OH

#23 Mar 22, 2013
Sterkfontein Swartkrans wrote:
The Eddie Munster lookalike loses again!!
Who is this Eddie Munster guy? Is he tea party? I dont know if Paul Ryan is tea party or not but he seems friendly enouf with them. He’s like you name the tune and Ill dance to it. Tea party knows what best.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#24 Mar 22, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Ryan's 15 minutes of fame are almost up.
Will Eddie Munster ever learn?
Halito

Winnemucca, NV

#27 Mar 22, 2013
Somehow 2 Americans were found....
Lincoln

United States

#28 Mar 22, 2013
Kyle Broadneck wrote:
Why is our government so unamerican? Paul Ryan has been trying so hard to save America while Obama is over in Israel making enemies, like reported on Fox News yesterday.
faux
truman

Boise, ID

#29 Mar 23, 2013
Aria wrote:
Taxed Enough Already! Go tea party!
The Tea Party is a decomposing corpse.
And a punchline!
No Hope! No Change! Tax Breaks for the Filthy Rich!
Kyle Broadneck

Cincinnati, OH

#30 Mar 23, 2013
truman wrote:
<quoted text>
The Tea Party is a decomposing corpse.
And a punchline!
No Hope! No Change! Tax Breaks for the Filthy Rich!
Tea party is the real America. Not a rotting corps. Economist Paul Ryan is a great American hero and Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman are his lovely cheerleaders. Who can resist their charms?
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#31 Mar 23, 2013
Pappa wrote:
<quoted text>
No, Obama's proposals are shot down by the entire congress. His budgets have not received the first vote. Big difference, chief.
The President doesn't propose a budget, he sents to Congress Request for program funding.

There's never been per sue' a President Budget..... Their proposal are crafted in a package which justifies his request based on his priorities for the Nation.

Congress either accepts those request and allocate funding accordingly or they reject the proposals.

Where had you taken the course in American Civics that teaches you the President prepares a Budget, or are you repeating a narrative you've heard on the Conservative stooge network?

It's really pathetic that most of you debating politics don't have a clue how your Government works or the protocol in Congress.
There has not been a Federal Budget approved by Congress since Clinton and that's over 16 years ago.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#32 Mar 23, 2013
Then how stupid and uninformed are you to believe that a United States President actually prepares a budget, independent of the House and, or Senate Budgets process for the Nation?

Where in the Constitution is there a provision indicating the President prepares a budget...... ROFLMAO

You and people like you are so uninformed on America and the processes of Government I question whether you're actually citizens.

It is down right pathetic an American, or supposed American adult who has graduated high school can be so void of the basic process used in governing America.
carey529 wrote:
<quoted text>
eric is like "larry wolf", or "responsibility"...
totally clueless, but very vocal...
where i come from, they're called morons. we have special classes for people like them in the schools...they even get they're own (albeit, very short) bus!
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#33 Mar 23, 2013
Taxes and spending, recorded in the historical traditional, are today as low as they've been since the 1940s. How old are you that you complain about taxes? What periods are you comparing this information?

The federal tax revenue is less than 18% of America's GDP, yet wage earners in America, those of us who don't receive wage subsidies pay more than 30% as compared to income generated other than wages which today is taxed less than 20%

This is flat out a sustained war on the American middle class and promotes wage inequality.

The next chapter in the war on the middle class is to dismantle those programs wages of members in the middle class fund to distribute to the plutocrats. The republican policies of Corporate and Higher Income Entitlements is meant to take from the wage earner and re-distribute to the Oligarch.

That's what the Bush Tax incentives, approved by the Republican Majority in 2003 was designed to achieve. Look at the results.... they begin by rewarding industrialist who outsourced manufacturing jobs over seas...... America's economy was built on manufacturing and thrived until Republican policies pulled the plug.
SirPrize wrote:
Not a single Democrat voted for the budget. Probably because they realize they they'd be expected to live within it. Clearly, the Democrats would rather continue to spend without regard to the ability of the American people to pay. Now, they'll try to say they defended the middle class, all the while hoping that the middle class won't realize that the Democrats have just increased the tax burden even more than ever. And, there's still no plan to reduce that burden. Somehow, the democrats still believe that increasing taxes will reduce the middle class burden.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#34 Mar 23, 2013
Kyle Broadneck wrote:
Why is our government so unamerican? Paul Ryan has been trying so hard to save America while Obama is over in Israel making enemies, like reported on Fox News yesterday.
Paul Ryan's family has a contracting business that depends solely on Government spending at the State and Local level. His entire being was sustained by Government spending before he was elected to Congress.

Paul Ryan's congress record is available online for citizen review. It is not possible someone who isn't illiterate could review Ryan's record and classify Ryan as a Budget Hawk, or Fiscal Conservative. He has no history of being responsible when it comes to Federal Spending.

You've decided to ignore Ryan's previous votes on Fiscal Spending since he's been a member of Congress...... he voted 100% for the spending George Bush requested that tripled the National Debt.

In all the time Ryan has been in Congress he's achieved renaming two Post Offices in Wisconsin
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#35 Mar 23, 2013
see the light wrote:
<quoted text>For once the Senate might try coming up with a budget, or better yet the President could do his job-make a budget. But that won't happen.
In the 234 years of America, it's NEVER been a President's Job to make a budget.......

You're obviously not motivated to discuss politics based on your knowledge of American Governance..... so tell us why exactly are you so interested now?

Where were you the last time a President "Made" a budget?

What's sad is that you morons are on the internet and consciously decided to by-pass information that could teach you what you don't know about American Government...... it's like you've made a decision to remain ignorant of America's processes and procedures.

That's down right lazy and shift-less.

“To contract new debts...”

Since: Apr 08

is not the way to pay old ones

#36 Mar 23, 2013
Sterkfontein Swartkrans wrote:
The Eddie Munster lookalike loses again!!
Instead they pass a budget with $1,000,000,000,000 in new taxes, we the taxpayers lose again.
serfs up

Daytona Beach, FL

#37 Mar 23, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Taxes and spending, recorded in the historical traditional, are today as low as they've been since the 1940s. How old are you that you complain about taxes? What periods are you comparing this information?
The federal tax revenue is less than 18% of America's GDP, yet wage earners in America, those of us who don't receive wage subsidies pay more than 30% as compared to income generated other than wages which today is taxed less than 20%
This is flat out a sustained war on the American middle class and promotes wage inequality.
The next chapter in the war on the middle class is to dismantle those programs wages of members in the middle class fund to distribute to the plutocrats. The republican policies of Corporate and Higher Income Entitlements is meant to take from the wage earner and re-distribute to the Oligarch.
That's what the Bush Tax incentives, approved by the Republican Majority in 2003 was designed to achieve. Look at the results.... they begin by rewarding industrialist who outsourced manufacturing jobs over seas...... America's economy was built on manufacturing and thrived until Republican policies pulled the plug.
<quoted text>
Stop making excuses for evil. You are evil. You are a communist/fascist/socialist that is bringing in the world government. And America must be in decline for that to happen. You are witnessing the major economic areas going through stresses that have been seen before. And we are early in the game. The thing is humanity always goes back to its tribes for safety when the system craps out. If you think extreme feminists/massive self inflicted poverty/massive sexually permissive gay people are a long term solution to civil equality while kicking the majority who have taken care of their own and destroying the foundation of human history that got us here, you will learn. There is no peace from your movement. In fact, the world is worse. The violence is much more specific towards certain groups and regional conflicts are long term. Many people in all groups are good. Just to many in the groups that are not and we choose our kin who stink over those who are upright citizens. Equality works when we don't do that. Progressive politics is good on paper. But the reality is we are finished. Finished in the way of life that had much good. I will never apologize for my background. No guilt. No guilt for doing nothing wrong. You feel the way you do, then divide the country into smaller nations. Then you go your way. We go ours. Its a big country. It can be done.

“To contract new debts...”

Since: Apr 08

is not the way to pay old ones

#38 Mar 23, 2013
Kyle Broadneck wrote:
Why is our government so unamerican? Paul Ryan has been trying so hard to save America while Obama is over in Israel making enemies, like reported on Fox News yesterday.
I did find it amusing that as soon as Obama left the country a bipartisan spending bill was passed to keep the government afloat. No drama, no crisis, and no party lines.
If you look at the budget that has been passed by the senate, the one with the trillions dollars in tax increases, the four Democrats who voted against it are all up for re-election next year.

“To contract new debts...”

Since: Apr 08

is not the way to pay old ones

#39 Mar 23, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
In the 234 years of America, it's NEVER been a President's Job to make a budget.......
You're obviously not motivated to discuss politics based on your knowledge of American Governance..... so tell us why exactly are you so interested now?
Where were you the last time a President "Made" a budget?
What's sad is that you morons are on the internet and consciously decided to by-pass information that could teach you what you don't know about American Government...... it's like you've made a decision to remain ignorant of America's processes and procedures.
That's down right lazy and shift-less.
Actually according to the Budget and Accounting Act of 1921 (31 USC CHAPTER 11), that is exactly the Presidents job.

http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/31C11.tx...
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#40 Mar 23, 2013
Wake up chief, the only people struggling in this economy is you and people like you. Perpetual victims, sitting in a corner whining and complaining. The world is changing so you had better find a path to suit your individual pursuit to happiness.

American corporations are earning record profits and if you're invested properly, you are earning growth in market accounts as never seen before.

The foundation for this economy was laid 30 plus years ago with policies signed into law by Ronald Reagan.
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> Stop making excuses for evil. You are evil. You are a communist/fascist/socialist that is bringing in the world government. And America must be in decline for that to happen. You are witnessing the major economic areas going through stresses that have been seen before. And we are early in the game. The thing is humanity always goes back to its tribes for safety when the system craps out. If you think extreme feminists/massive self inflicted poverty/massive sexually permissive gay people are a long term solution to civil equality while kicking the majority who have taken care of their own and destroying the foundation of human history that got us here, you will learn. There is no peace from your movement. In fact, the world is worse. The violence is much more specific towards certain groups and regional conflicts are long term. Many people in all groups are good. Just to many in the groups that are not and we choose our kin who stink over those who are upright citizens. Equality works when we don't do that. Progressive politics is good on paper. But the reality is we are finished. Finished in the way of life that had much good. I will never apologize for my background. No guilt. No guilt for doing nothing wrong. You feel the way you do, then divide the country into smaller nations. Then you go your way. We go ours. Its a big country. It can be done.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#41 Mar 23, 2013
Hunglo wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually according to the Budget and Accounting Act of 1921 (31 USC CHAPTER 11), that is exactly the Presidents job.
http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/31C11.tx...
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31 USC § 1105 - Budget contents and submission to Congress

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Current through Pub. L. 112-283.(See Public Laws for the current Congress.)

(a) On or after the first Monday in January but not later than the first Monday in February of each year, the President shall submit a budget of the United States Government for the following fiscal year. Each budget shall include a budget message and summary and supporting information. The President shall include in each budget the following:
(1) information on activities and functions of the Government.
(2) when practicable, information on costs and achievements of Government programs.
(3) other desirable classifications of information.
(4) a reconciliation of the summary information on expenditures with proposed appropriations.
(5) except as provided in subsection (b) of this section, estimated expenditures and proposed appropriations the President decides are necessary to support the Government in the fiscal year for which the budget is submitted and the 4 fiscal years after that year.
(6) estimated receipts of the Government in the fiscal year for which the budget is submitted and the 4 fiscal years after that year under—

This is exactly the Request Presidents make to congress along with their justifications for their priorities...... the President has no vote in Congress as to whether or not the House and Senate adopts any or all of his request...... and never in the history of America has.
Kyle Broadneck

Cincinnati, OH

#42 Mar 23, 2013
Hunglo wrote:
<quoted text>
I did find it amusing that as soon as Obama left the country a bipartisan spending bill was passed to keep the government afloat. No drama, no crisis, and no party lines.
If you look at the budget that has been passed by the senate, the one with the trillions dollars in tax increases, the four Democrats who voted against it are all up for re-election next year.
The republicans are the bipartisan heros.

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