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“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#39919 Sep 28, 2013
Ocean life needs CO2 to survive.

Climate change mitigation is a hoax and man made catastrophic climate change is pseudoscience. You can prove that truth by looking at the experimental record.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39921 Sep 28, 2013
Living on our planet in a sustainable way is the only path that makes any sense.

The steps each individual takes may be small, but without them, the price paid by grandchildren may be much, much worse.
[thescotsman]
B as in B S as in S

Minneapolis, MN

#39922 Sep 28, 2013
Plain Jane wrote:
For the non-readers here, global warming causes extreme weather. It gets hotter in some places and much colder in others. The Gulf stream is slowing due to the cold fresh water being dumped by glacier melt and we are losing it's warming effects on the eastern seaboard of the US and the west coasts of Britain and Europe. Scoff all you like. You are only showing your complete lack of literacy on the issue.
See old data is bad data... Clearly the oceans are warming so the experts are once again... Wrong cuz ya can't have it BOTH ways.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39923 Sep 28, 2013
B as in B S as in S wrote:
<quoted text>
See old data is bad data... Clearly the oceans are warming so the experts are once again... Wrong cuz ya can't have it BOTH ways.
WRONG 'cause you are a fossil fuel shill..
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#39924 Sep 28, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
Living on our planet in a sustainable way is the only path that makes any sense.
The steps each individual takes may be small, but without them, the price paid by grandchildren may be much, much worse.
[thescotsman]
So maybe you'll be the warmist who criticizes Gore or Obama for their use of fossil fuels... you know they're own 'individual steps'.

But I doubt it.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#39925 Sep 28, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You always have it figured out, don't you? Basically, that gubmint is evil.
You have a conspiracy answer for every aspect.
Obama, "Ive told my administration to keep looking every single day for actions we can take without Congress, steps that can save consumers money, make government more efficient and responsive, and help heal the economy. And were going to be announcing these executive actions on a regular basis.

If Obama is saying that about the economy, don't your think he'd act that way on the "crisis" of global warming with the EPA and other regulatory agencies?

Just how naive are you?

Never mind that he doesn't abide by the science himself.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#39926 Sep 28, 2013
B as in B S as in S wrote:
<quoted text>
See old data is bad data...


Not bad so much as with larger error bars. Instruments and coverage has improved over the years. Much to your dismay.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#39927 Sep 28, 2013
B as in B S as in S wrote:
<quoted text>
See old data is bad data... Clearly the oceans are warming so the experts are once again... Wrong cuz ya can't have it BOTH ways.
Oh so the .0000000005 deg c lost in predicted air temp in computer models went to the oceans, infact it warmed faster than predicted.

So what does this mean:
"The increase in the amount of heat in the oceans amounts to 17 x 1022 Joules over the last 30 years. That is so much energy it is equivalent to exploding a Hiroshima bomb every second in the ocean for thirty years."

So don't expect nice gentle weather with the change of seasons. One night you might wake up wet and freezing wondering why you are seeing stars, well it's because the roof is no longer there!

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives...
dont drink the koolaid

Minneapolis, MN

#39928 Sep 28, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
Not bad so much as with larger error bars.
LOL... exactly.

May I take the liberty to reuse that?

-koolaid
dont drink the koolaid

Minneapolis, MN

#39929 Sep 28, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh so the .0000000005 deg c lost in predicted air temp in computer models went to the oceans, infact it warmed faster than predicted.
The point is:
The experts can not have it both ways...
Science experts predict that CAGW will cause the oceans to become colder and the oceans to become warmer.
Science experts predict that CAGW will cause Europe to become colder and Europe to become warmer.

If Climate Scientists predict every possible future of Earth's climate is that proof that they are right. After all, one of the forecasts were correct.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#39930 Sep 28, 2013
dont drink the koolaid wrote:
<quoted text>
The point is:
The experts can not have it both ways...
Science experts predict that CAGW will cause the oceans to become colder and the oceans to become warmer.
Science experts predict that CAGW will cause Europe to become colder and Europe to become warmer.
If Climate Scientists predict every possible future of Earth's climate is that proof that they are right. After all, one of the forecasts were correct.
As the web site says, you guys jump on anything regardless of the massive amount of factual information presented telling the opposite of what you wish to hear or see. Arguing about words like precise being used or precisely , its a joke.
If a computer model monitored your driving style & determined you shouldn't hold a lic, would you expect it to mark the tree that you are going to run into or name the granny you are going to hit crossing the road. Yet this is what deniers expect here, it's that sort of crap that removes any chance of gaining credibility.

“Let's X Change!!”

Since: Feb 09

B4 HOPE Is Gone...

#39931 Sep 29, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>
Mann is still a Nobel-winning scientist, grief.
well where is his prize, son? i'm sure you can provide evidence of that, too, huh?

unless you're lying.....which you are.

prove me wrong!! where is the nobel prize you insist he won? i guess everyone who is a citizen in the eu are all nobel 'winners', too, in your crazy world?
gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#39932 Sep 29, 2013
Seth Borenstein writes, "in science, 95 percent certainty is often considered the gold standard for certainty."

One IPCC climate scientist interviewed by Borenstein said the panel even thought about boosting some places to "virtually certain" and 99 percent.

For instance, Jeff Severinghaus, a geoscientist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, stated that through the use of radioactive isotopes, scientists are more than 99 percent sure that much of the carbon in the air has human fingerprints on it. Even more, because of basic physics, scientists are 99 percent certain that carbon traps heat in what is called the greenhouse effect.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/95...
Retired Farmer

Kuttawa, KY

#39933 Sep 29, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
Seth Borenstein writes, "in science, 95 percent certainty is often considered the gold standard for certainty."
One IPCC climate scientist interviewed by Borenstein said the panel even thought about boosting some places to "virtually certain" and 99 percent.
For instance, Jeff Severinghaus, a geoscientist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, stated that through the use of radioactive isotopes, scientists are more than 99 percent sure that much of the carbon in the air has human fingerprints on it. Even more, because of basic physics, scientists are 99 percent certain that carbon traps heat in what is called the greenhouse effect.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/95...
Caveman, you might as well give it up.

The deniers (and worse the folks that think global warming will be a good thing) won't be convinced otherwise until the water of the Gulf of Mexico reaches all the way up to Memphis.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39934 Sep 29, 2013
Retired Farmer wrote:
<quoted text>
Caveman, you might as well give it up.
The deniers (and worse the folks that think global warming will be a good thing) won't be convinced otherwise until the water of the Gulf of Mexico reaches all the way up to Memphis.
The deniers ignore the sealevel rise and other effects at their own peril. Sure the rivers will back up and run over their banks everywhere... unpredictibly, too..
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39935 Sep 29, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
Seth Borenstein writes, "in science, 95 percent certainty is often considered the gold standard for certainty."
One IPCC climate scientist interviewed by Borenstein said the panel even thought about boosting some places to "virtually certain" and 99 percent.
For instance, Jeff Severinghaus, a geoscientist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, stated that through the use of radioactive isotopes, scientists are more than 99 percent sure that much of the carbon in the air has human fingerprints on it. Even more, because of basic physics, scientists are 99 percent certain that carbon traps heat in what is called the greenhouse effect.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/95...
Thank you for posting this. I did it several days ago while calling it a modern uncle tomming.

It is 100 percent in MY book.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#39936 Sep 29, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for posting this. I did it several days ago ....
Your long lost credibility is reason not to pay attention to whatever you post.

Hypocrite.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39937 Sep 29, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Your long lost credibility is reason not to pay attention to whatever you post.
Hypocrite[name calling].
LIAR.

Desert the bs.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39938 Sep 29, 2013
Deniers should get off the planet because they don't accept the greenhouse effect.

“Let's X Change!!”

Since: Feb 09

B4 HOPE Is Gone...

#39939 Sep 29, 2013
Mothra wrote:
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Your long lost credibility is reason not to pay attention to whatever you post.
Hypocrite.
Did you see where I proved 'spacey' lied again and again......and the little lapdog still keeps insisting that 'it' is correct?

Credibility and rational thinking.....two things that don't exist on 'spacedblues' planet!

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