URGENT: Sen. Ted Stevens believed aboard plane that crashed in Alaska

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A plane believed to be carrying eight people, including former Sen. Ted Stevens and former NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe, crashed in southwest Alaska and rescue crews were trying to reach the wreckage Tuesday morning, authorities said.

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Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>democrat losers always wish in one hand and poop in the other and are stup-e-fied that the hand with the poop fills up first, each and every time. Which, by the way, happens to be the definition of insanity.
ah wrong Sparky I usually vote Republican, but Cheney is the Devil himself.
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Ted Stevens came to be the face of pork-barrel spending, forever tied to the "Bridge to Nowhere" project. The island that the $400 million bridge was to be built to is home to about 50 residents. Yeah, that sounds kinda wasteful.
Here's the part that you don't hear about in most news stories:
That island also happens to hold Ketchikan International Airport. Not the busiest airport in the country, but still it's certainly worth having it connected to mainland. It was never a "bridge to nowhere", it was a bridge to an international airport so you wouldn't have to wait an hour or two for a boat to come and pick you up.
And for whatever it's worth, this is one of the main jobs of all politicians: to get federal funding to provide jobs in their district. When a Southern California defense company gets a big contract, do you call that wasteful? Most people don't. That's called helping the economy and keeping jobs local. "Pork-barrel" spending is what you call it when someone in a DIFFERENT state wins a contract to boost THEIR local economy.
You are a complete imbecile. If your post was intended as a joke then I apologize otherwise you are still an imbecile.

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AndrewSimonClueless wrote:
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You are a complete imbecile. If your post was intended as a joke then I apologize otherwise you are still an imbecile.
I'm more than happy to have a dialogue. What part of my post do you think is a joke? Do you disagree that there's an airport on that island? Do you disagree that we expect our elected officials to get federal money for our districts? It's very intelligent of you to type out a personal insult. How about you elaborate a little?
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Hell I was a member of the KKK and called the PRINCE OF PORK because of the amount of federal money I earmarked for West Virginia.

Why didn't any conservatives dance on my grave the way liberals just did to Stevens? Hell liberals wished death on living conservatives!

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Robert Byrd wrote:
Hell I was a member of the KKK and called the PRINCE OF PORK because of the amount of federal money I earmarked for West Virginia.
Why didn't any conservatives dance on my grave the way liberals just did to Stevens? Hell liberals wished death on living conservatives!
What, Robert Byrd got a free pass?
Visiting Cowboy wrote:
The last member of the KKK leaves the U.S. Congress. Finally.
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Wonder if his white sheets will be donated to the Smithsonian?
Snicker wrote:
'Bout Freakin Time!
Citizen wrote:
Rot in hell, triple K!
You're an idiot if you think either side gets a free pass. And don't even TRY to suggest one side of the fence is more respectful than the other.
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WrongBrothers wrote:
Too bad Sarah was not sitting on his lap! And Dick Cheney in the seat next to him. Could've been 3 for 1 and I would've taken the day off and handed out candy to neighborhood kids.
Lazlo know how you feel. Every time Lazlo think of those Kennedy boys, all laying side by side with holes in their heads, crack Lazlo up yeah it does.
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God said he had had enough of Stevens theiving and misdeeds, so he took him down. It is God's way of punishing an evil man.
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Andrew Simon wrote:
Ted Stevens came to be the face of pork-barrel spending, forever tied to the "Bridge to Nowhere" project. The island that the $400 million bridge was to be built to is home to about 50 residents. Yeah, that sounds kinda wasteful.
Here's the part that you don't hear about in most news stories:
That island also happens to hold Ketchikan International Airport. Not the busiest airport in the country, but still it's certainly worth having it connected to mainland. It was never a "bridge to nowhere", it was a bridge to an international airport so you wouldn't have to wait an hour or two for a boat to come and pick you up.
And for whatever it's worth, this is one of the main jobs of all politicians: to get federal funding to provide jobs in their district. When a Southern California defense company gets a big contract, do you call that wasteful? Most people don't. That's called helping the economy and keeping jobs local. "Pork-barrel" spending is what you call it when someone in a DIFFERENT state wins a contract to boost THEIR local economy.
Why would one wait an hour or two for a SEVEN MINUTE ferry boat ride. Or are these FOX FACTS you recite?

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GrimReaper wrote:
Yet another corrupt evil Republican.
Time to come downstairs to your new home Ted!
This is the kind of story that allows the Morons to verify their ignorance. Congratulations Jackass.
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God said he had had enough of Stevens theiving and misdeeds, so he took him down. It is God's way of punishing an evil man.
He punish Kennedy boys real good too.

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Why would one wait an hour or two for a SEVEN MINUTE ferry boat ride. Or are these FOX FACTS you recite?
Ketchikan's airport is the second largest in Southeast Alaska, after Juneau International Airport, handling over 200,000 passengers a year. The ferry shuttled 350,000 people in the same time period." - "Ketchikan airport and ferry statistics for December 2006"

A ferry runs to the island every 30 minutes. I was exaggerating one direction, and you're exaggerating the other direction.
My point was that the bridge project wasn't as useless as the media made it out to be. Unfortunately the fallout happened just after Katrina, when Congress wanted money diverted to New Orleans. Ted Stevens did not handle things well, throwing a temper tantrum on the senate floor which made for an amusing video. That, unfortunately, is what so many people remember him for.
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Ketchikan's airport is the second largest in Southeast Alaska, after Juneau International Airport, handling over 200,000 passengers a year. The ferry shuttled 350,000 people in the same time period." - "Ketchikan airport and ferry statistics for December 2006"
A ferry runs to the island every 30 minutes. I was exaggerating one direction, and you're exaggerating the other direction.
My point was that the bridge project wasn't as useless as the media made it out to be. Unfortunately the fallout happened just after Katrina, when Congress wanted money diverted to New Orleans. Ted Stevens did not handle things well, throwing a temper tantrum on the senate floor which made for an amusing video. That, unfortunately, is what so many people remember him for.
Even if it is the 2nd largest airport in Alaska (handling 200,000 passengers a year!), that only amounts to about 550 people a day. It would rank 15th in California, behind Monterey Peninsula Airport and just ahead of San Luis Obispo County Regional Airport.

For an airport that only served 500 people a day, I think a ferry running every 30 minutes is a better solution that a $400 million project. Using the current usage, it would take 2,000 years to reach 400,000,000 passengers, or $1 per rider.

Compare that to a portion of the 405 freeway in Seal Beach, clocking in at 374,000 cars EVERY DAY, or 136,510,000 cars per year!

“Uzi Does It”

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Even if it is the 2nd largest airport in Alaska (handling 200,000 passengers a year!), that only amounts to about 550 people a day. It would rank 15th in California, behind Monterey Peninsula Airport and just ahead of San Luis Obispo County Regional Airport.
For an airport that only served 500 people a day, I think a ferry running every 30 minutes is a better solution that a $400 million project. Using the current usage, it would take 2,000 years to reach 400,000,000 passengers, or $1 per rider.
Compare that to a portion of the 405 freeway in Seal Beach, clocking in at 374,000 cars EVERY DAY, or 136,510,000 cars per year!
Speaking of California aviation, did they ever figure out why that dunce California Highway Patrolman crashed state property while flying traffic speed traps about a month ago? Usually, if small planes aren't killing dunce doctors and dunce lawyers, they are typically an even more deadly mix with dunce cops.

“Uzi Does It”

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[QUOTE who "NTSB"]NTSB Identification: WPR10GA231

14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation

Accident occurred Friday, May 07, 2010 in Borrego Springs, CA

Aircraft: CESSNA T206H, registration: N663HP

Injuries: 1 Fatal.

This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed.

On May 7, 2010, about 1006 Pacific daylight time, a Cessna T206H, N663HP, collided with mountainous terrain in the Anza-Borrego Desert State Park, Borrego Springs, California. The airplane was operated by the California Highway Patrol as a public-use surveillance aircraft. The commercial pilot was killed, and the airplane was substantially damaged and consumed by a post accident fire. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed, and a company flight plan had been filed. The flight originated at Thermal, California, about 0715.

Representatives of the California Highway Patrol (CHP) stated that between 0830 and 0920 the airplane was performing traffic surveillance activities with numerous CHP ground units in the vicinity of SR86 and Hoskins Street, 21 miles north of El Centro. The CHP officers decided to transfer their activities to I-8 and Dunaway Road, 14 miles west of El Centro. The CHP officers reported that by 1000 the airplane pilot had not checked in with them. At 1006, the dispatch operator for the California Department of Parks and Recreation received a call that someone saw smoke in the vicinity of Split Mountain (Anza-Borrego). About 1600 the wreckage of the CHP airplane was located on the east face of mountainous terrain, 2 miles north of Split Mountain.

Naval Air Field El Centro, located 30 miles southeast of the accident location, reported weather conditions at 0956 as clear sky, winds 010 degrees at 5 knots, and 10 miles visibility.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that one.

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Even if it is the 2nd largest airport in Alaska (handling 200,000 passengers a year!), that only amounts to about 550 people a day. It would rank 15th in California, behind Monterey Peninsula Airport and just ahead of San Luis Obispo County Regional Airport.
For an airport that only served 500 people a day, I think a ferry running every 30 minutes is a better solution that a $400 million project. Using the current usage, it would take 2,000 years to reach 400,000,000 passengers, or $1 per rider.
Compare that to a portion of the 405 freeway in Seal Beach, clocking in at 374,000 cars EVERY DAY, or 136,510,000 cars per year!
Ok, you win. He was evil and corrupt for trying to get a portion of the transportation fund.
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Ok, you win. He was evil and corrupt for trying to get a portion of the transportation fund.
I didn't say that, but maybe HE or his cronies used that airport a lot and made it more convenient for them.

$400 million to upgrade LAX, O'Hare, or JFK roads or facilities is one thing, but that project seemed a bit over the top to me.

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I didn't say that, but maybe HE or his cronies used that airport a lot and made it more convenient for them.
$400 million to upgrade LAX, O'Hare, or JFK roads or facilities is one thing, but that project seemed a bit over the top to me.
Honestly I'm impressed they were able to build an airport at all, ferrying construction materials, equipment and workers across like that. What a pain that must've been.

And considering how expensive everything is these days, I really don't know if $400 million is too outrageous for a bridge over a waterway or not. LAX is undergoing construction at several of their terminals. Recently completed was a new taxiway (which is essentially concrete paving on flat ground. Yeah yeah, and some electronics. I know) at a cost of $88 million. I don't think even $400 million gets you much of an airport.
I've heard that the City of Torrance wants to complete Del Amo Blvd. from Maple to Crenshaw with a bridge. I have no idea how much that would cost (and that being a short span and no water to traverse).$100 Million? I don't know. But if that's close, then $400 million for a bridge over water doesn't sound so unreasonable.
But yes, there's an argument - importance and usage vs. trying to do the best you can for those you represent. That's what politics is all about.
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Yet another corrupt evil Republican.
Time to come downstairs to your new home Ted!
Criminally, his big claim to shame was that he didn't report to Congress that his home remodeling job in 2005 was paid for by an oil buddy of his. Is that really the difference between going to Heaven or Hell? Compared to what SOME politicians do, this guy was a lightweight if that was his worst offense.
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GrimReaper wrote:
Yet another corrupt evil Republican.
Time to come downstairs to your new home Ted!
What about corrupt democrats ???

William Jefferson.
Rod Blagovich.
Charles Rangel.
Alan Cranston.
Chris Dodd,
Kwame Kilpatrick.
Ted Kennedy.

Etc, etc, etc .... But if it's the democrats that's ok in your book, right ????

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