Georgia: Chambliss and Norquist Fight Over Tax Pledge

Nov 26, 2012 Full story: Roll Call 226

Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss, who faces a likely primary challenge in 2014, said last week he could abandon the Grover Norquist-backed Taxpayer Protection Pledge he signed if it meant moving the country forward.

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#2 Nov 27, 2012
Another Republican willing to ditch his so-called "beliefs" in order to move the nation "Forward" towards Obama's socialism.

Democrats call it "compromise" when their opposition caves.

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#4 Nov 27, 2012
There is not enough tax money available to cure our ailes, unless Obama and the government quit spending. The wealthy are the first in line to Obama attempt to make two classes, liberals and the poor.

RED FRIDAY: Treasury Borrowed $24.3 BILLION on Day After Thanksgiving...
$211.69 Per Household...

“Obama Shames the USA”

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#5 Nov 27, 2012
Another pillow fight in DC.
Benghazigate follows Obama around like a shadow.

Everybody knows.
Everybody knows.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#6 Nov 27, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
Another Republican willing to ditch his so-called "beliefs" in order to move the nation "Forward" towards Obama's socialism.
Democrats call it "compromise" when their opposition caves.
He could do nothing and allow all the rates to set back to the Clinton years, then be forced to hold the party line and block Tax Cuts for 98% of the American Workers in the middle class in January.

That strategy would no doubt signal the absolute death of the Republican party.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#7 Nov 27, 2012
The deficits will begin to disappear with the expiring Bush Tax Cuts. Once the damage left by the Bush administration disappears sanity will be restored to the nation's finances.
Le Jimbo wrote:
There is not enough tax money available to cure our ailes, unless Obama and the government quit spending. The wealthy are the first in line to Obama attempt to make two classes, liberals and the poor.
RED FRIDAY: Treasury Borrowed $24.3 BILLION on Day After Thanksgiving...
$211.69 Per Household...
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#8 Nov 27, 2012
Anxiety over this Sequester is mythical and manufactured. Cuts to Defense as the wars are winding down is common sense. There is no reason that America needs to spend $700 Billion on defense.

Allow the Bush Tax Cuts to expire in totality, eliminate excessive deductions for special interest and groups, find a way to reduce tax rates on middle income earners.

Dismantle the prescription drug plan signed by Bush and written by the Pharmacy industry and implement a common sense approach leaving the option to negotiate pricing of popular prescriptions.

Defense spending can afford a 1/3 slashing. What's the use in having an Armed Forces if we are contracting their responsibilities out to private contractors?
Deep Red Debt

Phoenix, AZ

#9 Nov 27, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
There is not enough tax money available to cure our ailes, unless Obama and the government quit spending. The wealthy are the first in line to Obama attempt to make two classes, liberals and the poor.
RED FRIDAY: Treasury Borrowed $24.3 BILLION on Day After Thanksgiving...
$211.69 Per Household...
The actual federal government debt is at least $100,000,000,000,000 (That's a HUNDRED TRILLION) and is likely closer to $127 Trillion.

Even with EVERYONE taxed at 100% we can't meet the obligations, as they exceed the entire GDP.
People can rant all they want, but Jimbo is right. There is no way to tax our way out of this. Benefits will be cut, because there is no money left to fund the programs. The US is broke.
If you thought that the recession was bad, just wait.
Those were the good old days.
When the welfare checks can't buy a loaf of bread and you don't have to be out with the rioters in the streets, you will be glad you prepared. Those who don't prepare don't need to, because that idiot you elected in the White House will take care of your every need, right up until he gets out of town as the torches and pitchforks are approaching.

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

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#10 Nov 27, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
He could do nothing and allow all the rates to set back to the Clinton years, then be forced to hold the party line and block Tax Cuts for 98% of the American Workers in the middle class in January.
That strategy would no doubt signal the absolute death of the Republican party.
The republican establishment is no different than they have been, old, tired and out of ideas, just as the blue dog democrats have all but gone to the wayside. Now we have the Tea Party against spoiled childeren and the entitlement crowd.

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Dallas, GA

#11 Nov 27, 2012
Chambliss needs to be voted out. This is just another example of a "politician", playing politics, telling the voters what they want to hear to get elected, then breaking their promises, or in today's terms, "evolving".
fatbacks x

Seattle, WA

#12 Nov 27, 2012
I think norquist was a corporal in the army.

“Kiss Me You Fool!”

Since: Jan 08

Atlanta via Brooklyn NY

#13 Nov 27, 2012
Signing some pledge to some guy instead of doing whats best for the country is treasonous.

Screw Norquits. Repugnant Chambliss is doing what smart repubs have wanted to do....compromise.

If Boehner could "LEAD" his party we'd have the House actually DO SOMETHING and not have the lowest rating of Congress EVER...with the knickname "Do Nothing Congress".

Key note here...its been repub led during record low ratings.

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Dallas, GA

#14 Nov 27, 2012
OneRyder wrote:
Signing some pledge to some guy instead of doing whats best for the country is treasonous.
Screw Norquits. Repugnant Chambliss is doing what smart repubs have wanted to do....compromise.
If Boehner could "LEAD" his party we'd have the House actually DO SOMETHING and not have the lowest rating of Congress EVER...with the knickname "Do Nothing Congress".
Key note here...its been repub led during record low ratings.
treason? You really don't want to go there.

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

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#15 Nov 27, 2012
OneRyder wrote:
Signing some pledge to some guy instead of doing whats best for the country is treasonous.
Screw Norquits. Repugnant Chambliss is doing what smart repubs have wanted to do....compromise.
If Boehner could "LEAD" his party we'd have the House actually DO SOMETHING and not have the lowest rating of Congress EVER...with the knickname "Do Nothing Congress".
Key note here...its been repub led during record low ratings.
If it is treasonist to you, you should have thought of that before commiting treason by voting for a communist again. We understand the me, me, me attitude of the left, just don't expect us to agree with failed policy.
fatbacks x

Seattle, WA

#16 Nov 27, 2012
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>If it is treasonist to you, you should have thought of that before commiting treason by voting for a communist again. We understand the me, me, me attitude of the left, just don't expect us to agree with failed policy.
You should go see a proctologist. Must be hard walking that way.
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#17 Nov 27, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
There is not enough tax money available to cure our ailes, unless Obama and the government quit spending. The wealthy are the first in line to Obama attempt to make two classes, liberals and the poor.
RED FRIDAY: Treasury Borrowed $24.3 BILLION on Day After Thanksgiving...
$211.69 Per Household...
80 percent of the federal budget goes to Socialist Security, government Medicare and to military spending. You do not want ANY cuts to any of those three things, so you cannot touch 80 percent of the budget. You tea party nuts always sayd "cut spending." Look at the poll today. It's over 60 percent of people saying to cut spending, yet none of them ever even look to see where the money is going. Then when someone else tells them that most of the spending is for SS, Medicare and military spending, oh no, they do not want one cent cut. Do you want that stuff cut or not? Soon just SS and Medicare is going to be using up 97 percent of the federal budget, crowding out all military spending. Mark Steyn talked about this in his book. He said SS and Medicare spending will take down our military because we won't be able to afford it. Do you want SS and Medicare cut or not? If not, stop saying you want spending cuts. All other spending combined is only 20 percent of the budget, and the baby boomers will soon eat up all of it just in SS and Medicare, so that is what you have to cut.

And the Dems sit there and just keep saying there is no debt ind SS and Medicare, just keep it, just have half the country on welfare and half the country on old aged entitlements. Yeah right. We are less than two years away from total collapse.

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#18 Nov 27, 2012
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>80 percent of the federal budget goes to Socialist Security, government Medicare and to military spending. You do not want ANY cuts to any of those three things, so you cannot touch 80 percent of the budget. You tea party nuts always sayd "cut spending." Look at the poll today. It's over 60 percent of people saying to cut spending, yet none of them ever even look to see where the money is going. Then when someone else tells them that most of the spending is for SS, Medicare and military spending, oh no, they do not want one cent cut. Do you want that stuff cut or not? Soon just SS and Medicare is going to be using up 97 percent of the federal budget, crowding out all military spending. Mark Steyn talked about this in his book. He said SS and Medicare spending will take down our military because we won't be able to afford it. Do you want SS and Medicare cut or not? If not, stop saying you want spending cuts. All other spending combined is only 20 percent of the budget, and the baby boomers will soon eat up all of it just in SS and Medicare, so that is what you have to cut.
And the Dems sit there and just keep saying there is no debt ind SS and Medicare, just keep it, just have half the country on welfare and half the country on old aged entitlements. Yeah right. We are less than two years away from total collapse.
80 percent of the budget is not Social Security. That is paid monthly and quarterly by the same people that will benefit from it's dispersal. If President Johnson had not robbed the Social Security Trust, then the govenment would not have to come up with the money now. Sorry cupiedoll, trying to make social security and medicare a entitlement is only a liberal thought process. The rest of us know better.

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#19 Nov 27, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
He could do nothing and allow all the rates to set back to the Clinton years, then be forced to hold the party line and block Tax Cuts for 98% of the American Workers in the middle class in January.
That strategy would no doubt signal the absolute death of the Republican party.
Actually, I fully support going "over" the "fiscal cliff".

I would like to see Obama and Co.'s socialistic, big-spending policies come to complete fruition, with another recession, or better yet, depression. There is no reason conservatives should buy into yet another stop-gap measure that kicks the can further down the road, just to "play nice", and save the asses of lying liberals like Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and Obama himself.

Let the left have it's way, and the public be damned. Eventually, the "gimme" crowd needs to learn a hard lesson, and if it means some folks starve, and some folks freeze, so be it. Obama voters deserve what they get, and they deserve the disdain of the rest of us, who know the difference between freedom and slavery, and right from wrong.

Deficits are not caused by taking away too little of the citizen's money, deficits are caused by big spenders in both parties who think the trough will never run dry.

So I say give Obama everything he wants, and make it plain to the public that is exactly what's happening. Conservatives know it won't work, but Americans voted for continued failure, so give them exactly what they want.

The result will mean the end of the modern left as we know it, and good riddance.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#20 Nov 27, 2012
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>The republican establishment is no different than they have been, old, tired and out of ideas, just as the blue dog democrats have all but gone to the wayside. Now we have the Tea Party against spoiled childeren and the entitlement crowd.
50% of the American electorate is fed up with the Tea Party. Given redistricting the Tea Party would have been wiped from the memory of America. They were soundly defeated in Senate campaigns in Nov. 2014 will see the end of the insurgent Tea Party.

guaranteed, if the middle class tax cuts aren't voted permanent, after those Bush Policies expire in Jan, it's over for the tea party in 2014.

Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#21 Nov 27, 2012
I agree, there's nothing left to negotiate, the anxiety over the sequester is manufactured by the Republicans current spending cuts and rolling back to the Clinton tax rates is good fiscal policy that the American electorate soundly supported in the election.

The people have spoken.
Cary L Nickel wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, I fully support going "over" the "fiscal cliff".
I would like to see Obama and Co.'s socialistic, big-spending policies come to complete fruition, with another recession, or better yet, depression. There is no reason conservatives should buy into yet another stop-gap measure that kicks the can further down the road, just to "play nice", and save the asses of lying liberals like Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and Obama himself.
Let the left have it's way, and the public be damned. Eventually, the "gimme" crowd needs to learn a hard lesson, and if it means some folks starve, and some folks freeze, so be it. Obama voters deserve what they get, and they deserve the disdain of the rest of us, who know the difference between freedom and slavery, and right from wrong.
Deficits are not caused by taking away too little of the citizen's money, deficits are caused by big spenders in both parties who think the trough will never run dry.
So I say give Obama everything he wants, and make it plain to the public that is exactly what's happening. Conservatives know it won't work, but Americans voted for continued failure, so give them exactly what they want.
The result will mean the end of the modern left as we know it, and good riddance.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#22 Nov 27, 2012
You're not letting the left have their way, the left took their right to make the rules, that's the democratic process.

The Right had it's way and it ended in a National Bankruptcy, more appropriately referred to by George Bush as Financial Armageddon, which involved the Bush squandering of Fiscal Surpluses and running the nation into the ground and latching $6.3 Trillion of additional debt around the throats of Americans. The end campaign was looting the U.S Treasury as he was walking out of the door to the tune of $1 Trillion for close friends, associates and supporters in the Banking Industry.

2008, America was in utter ruins, having regressed to a State of complete Failure from Republican rule. You didn't let the Left take back control, there was no choice.
Cary L Nickel wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, I fully support going "over" the "fiscal cliff".
I would like to see Obama and Co.'s socialistic, big-spending policies come to complete fruition, with another recession, or better yet, depression. There is no reason conservatives should buy into yet another stop-gap measure that kicks the can further down the road, just to "play nice", and save the asses of lying liberals like Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and Obama himself.
Let the left have it's way, and the public be damned. Eventually, the "gimme" crowd needs to learn a hard lesson, and if it means some folks starve, and some folks freeze, so be it. Obama voters deserve what they get, and they deserve the disdain of the rest of us, who know the difference between freedom and slavery, and right from wrong.
Deficits are not caused by taking away too little of the citizen's money, deficits are caused by big spenders in both parties who think the trough will never run dry.
So I say give Obama everything he wants, and make it plain to the public that is exactly what's happening. Conservatives know it won't work, but Americans voted for continued failure, so give them exactly what they want.
The result will mean the end of the modern left as we know it, and good riddance.

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