Palin in 2012

Palin in 2012

There are 135 comments on the Asheville Citizen-Times story from Dec 6, 2008, titled Palin in 2012. In it, Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

Will she be a Ronald Reagan or a Dan Quayle? Chuck Raasch * Gannett News Service * published December 7, 2008 12:15 am Comments on Topix forums : Sarah Palin obviously retains national ambitions despite the ...

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“Conservative for America”

Since: Apr 07

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#127 Jan 2, 2009
mac vs pc showdown wrote:
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we don't need any more derogatory comments about inner city blacks, yona. i'll bet you could step outside the city limits a short distance, into the hills and hollers, and find many more 10th grade and lower white folks who are strongly, darn near militantly conservative, you think?
why is it that college towns are nearly 100% democrat? why is it that the solid republican south isn't the region in our country putting out significant numbers of scientists, engineers, etc? why is anti-intellectualism a conservative philosophy? look it up. the ivy school educated are titled "elitists" while at the same time its a-ok to elect dumbed-down men, alcohol burnouts, to the highest office in the land (although their families are made up of purebred connecticutt yankee wealthy elites). had the man spoken with powerful vocabulary and strong northern accent, i doubt he'd have been quite as popular among conservatives.
most conservatives i know are flat earthers and conformists who never question their party norms.
You might be right about your racial assumption of rural white Republicans not having an education. I don't know for sure, so aside from pointing out the multi million dollar family farms, I'll let it slide. I will also point out that the hick drop out might have little education and vote as daddy did but he works hard. Which is more than can be said for the welfare addicts in the inner city.

As for your whole second paragraph. I assume that is your liberal blind loyalty showing. You certainly can't substantiate the college town comment or the percentage of scientist from the region. It is all conjecture and propaganda. Just admit you are smearing tall tales to advance your opinion and agenda. As for college towns I give you downtown Asheville as being screaming left wing socialist liberal but the greater city and surrounding metropolitan area is predominantly Republican and you may check BOE for that. I might also mention that you might want to rethink the higher IQ thing in reference to college towns, judging by the real brain trust DT Asheville has become.
Keeping It Real

Eddyville, KY

#128 Jan 2, 2009
yona wrote:
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As for college towns I give you downtown Asheville as being screaming left wing socialist liberal but the greater city and surrounding metropolitan area is predominantly Republican and you may check BOE for that. I might also mention that you might want to rethink the higher IQ thing in reference to college towns, judging by the real brain trust DT Asheville has become.
Since when did downtown Asheville become a college town? There aren't that many people living downtown relative to the rest of the city and the county, either.

Since: Nov 08

The Mountains of WNC

#129 Jan 2, 2009
hanger4 wrote:
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I guess I've been drinking the SSCI koolaid too, incidentally it was served by John D Rockefeller his majority Dems on the committee.
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Nahhh I don't make international phone calls to known or suspected terrorists.
BTW when the NYT's published the original story you do know they said they could find nothing illegal about the NSA program, and nothings been found to date.
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Only if you're a suspect and they get the warrants
You do know that the original program has since been approved by House and Senate, even Obama voted yes.
According to the Patriot Act, warrants are not needed to monitor your emails, books you've checked out of a public library, or monitoring websites you visit. And yes, the FBI and NSC are listening to the telephone calls of "ordinary" people, just like us. You don't have to be making international calls to "terrorists." You and I will never agree, but I do hope that you and others who think like you will one day see the error of sticking up for a man who has contributed nothing to the public good in 8 years. Perhaps you could get a job when Palin runs again? She'll need an apologist.

“Conservative for America”

Since: Apr 07

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#130 Jan 2, 2009
Keeping It Real wrote:
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Since when did downtown Asheville become a college town? There aren't that many people living downtown relative to the rest of the city and the county, either.
Don't blame me, Mac said it to begin with. I know he was thinking of big impressive bastions of liberal thinking like Harvard, Princeton, and Berkley. All huge college campuses that make up a large percentage of the city they are in. ASU would be a prime example of a big campus and a small town. My point was Asheville has UNCA, which is far left liberal arts. Even though it is a small college and kind of embarassing for all the liberal to accept. If his supposed rule doesn't apply in his backyard then it shouldn't be used to apply elsewhere.

Since: Apr 07

Asheville N.C.

#131 Jan 2, 2009
Wiley Coyote wrote:
<quoted text>According to the Patriot Act, warrants are not needed to monitor your emails,
Sorry, not true;

law enforcement may not compel an ISP to grant access without a warrant. Under previous law designed to protect user privacy, ISPs were specifically forbidden to grant network access without customer permission or a judge's order.
Agents can monitor hackers without a warrant, but cannot monitor an ISP's bill-paying customers without one. Even if a customer is engaged in illegal activity, law enforcement must get a pen register--a judge's authorization equivalent to what's needed for reading incoming and outgoing phone numbers--to track the user's Web surfing habits and e-mail addresses, and a wiretap warrant to read e-mail or monitor other communications.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/69662/patriot_...
Wiley Coyote wrote:
<quoted text> books you've checked out of a public library,
Sorry, not true;

FBI and federal prosecutors have always had the ability to obtain library and bookstore records through the traditional means of a grand jury subpoena. But the Patriot Act allows them to get the records using secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act courts. Libraries and bookstores served with such subpoenas are subject to gag orders.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi...
Wiley Coyote wrote:
<quoted text> And yes, the FBI and NSC are listening to the telephone calls of "ordinary" people, just like us. You don't have to be making international calls to "terrorists."
They sure are, but the phone calls either originate internationally or terminate internationally, no warrants needed and never have.

Other than that the new FISA wiretapping program was signed sealed and delivered by Congress and Obama voted for it.
mac vs pc showdown

Indian Trail, NC

#132 Jan 5, 2009
yona wrote:
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Sounds to me like you are the one with a race issue. I never mentioned ethnicity in my post, if you care to reread it. To be clear, though I grant you people commonly assume black when you mention lower income and urban, I was thinking of specific people that live in the city projects and run down areas off Lexington. All of which are white or mixed race. Ignorance and follower mentality know no color.
you weren't speaking in riddle, yona. anyone who can read knows what you mean. blacks, yes, usually vote democratic. why? because your party offers biggots and clowns and klansmen such as strom thurmund and jesse helms.
who are these "specific people" who live in the projects, yona? and why have you sigled them out? because they don't look, act, think, smell, believe exactly as you do? those horrible people with "follower mentality"....what do you even mean by that? are you telling me that those who dress in suits, work at the bank, attend the stuffiest baptist church, drive the new car, and keep that hair cut nice and short, and are card carrying members of the "vote your values" crowd...they aren't following some other example of what someone else feels life and people should be? they are not followers, but revolutionaries, is suppose?

“Conservative for America”

Since: Apr 07

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#133 Jan 5, 2009
mac vs pc showdown wrote:
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you weren't speaking in riddle, yona. anyone who can read knows what you mean. blacks, yes, usually vote democratic. why? because your party offers biggots and clowns and klansmen such as strom thurmund and jesse helms.
who are these "specific people" who live in the projects, yona? and why have you sigled them out? because they don't look, act, think, smell, believe exactly as you do? those horrible people with "follower mentality"....what do you even mean by that? are you telling me that those who dress in suits, work at the bank, attend the stuffiest baptist church, drive the new car, and keep that hair cut nice and short, and are card carrying members of the "vote your values" crowd...they aren't following some other example of what someone else feels life and people should be? they are not followers, but revolutionaries, is suppose?
Limit your assumption of racism to the one that keeps bringing it up, which would be you.

Strom and Jesse, both of which worked hard for moral reform and conservative values, were originally dixiecrats. They left the racist Democrat party when the Democrats found that lying to poor minorities could buy them more votes then sticking to their values and platform ever would. Allowing dixiecrats to switch parties and influence the Republican party is a black eye that it has taken 40 years to over come. It is a stuck in the past loser with no current knowledge that rehashes racism against Republicans.

Need I remind you Byrd was a grand wizard of the klan and that the Democrat party founded the klan? Don't go turning over rocks unless you want to see everything underneath.

Specific people, well wouldn't you perfer that to a generic 'them' that made it impossible for us to debate the issue. My specific people are a significant group of the worst Asheville has to offer. Parents that do drugs, no one works, children are uncared for, some mothers turn tricks to support their habits, welfare, section 8, food stamps (the card), and in most cases disability where none really exsists. I could broaden it if I encluded minorities but I knew small minds like yours would consider a frank discussion racist so I kept it to just those I know of my own race.
mac vs pc showdown

Indian Trail, NC

#134 Jan 5, 2009
yona wrote:
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Limit your assumption of racism to the one that keeps bringing it up, which would be you.
Strom and Jesse, both of which worked hard for moral reform and conservative values, were originally dixiecrats. They left the racist Democrat party when the Democrats found that lying to poor minorities could buy them more votes then sticking to their values and platform ever would. Allowing dixiecrats to switch parties and influence the Republican party is a black eye that it has taken 40 years to over come. It is a stuck in the past loser with no current knowledge that rehashes racism against Republicans.
Need I remind you Byrd was a grand wizard of the klan and that the Democrat party founded the klan? Don't go turning over rocks unless you want to see everything underneath.
Specific people, well wouldn't you perfer that to a generic 'them' that made it impossible for us to debate the issue. My specific people are a significant group of the worst Asheville has to offer. Parents that do drugs, no one works, children are uncared for, some mothers turn tricks to support their habits, welfare, section 8, food stamps (the card), and in most cases disability where none really exsists. I could broaden it if I encluded minorities but I knew small minds like yours would consider a frank discussion racist so I kept it to just those I know of my own race.
wow, yona....do you always just spin the truth into lies favoring yourself and the now defunct gop, which i'm not sure represents anything anymore, except monied white people. is the gop still a political party? looks like a darn bunch of under bred fools these days! the gop in public - we hate gays! the gop in private - tap, tap, tap...anyone in the next stall? the gop in public - bill clinton is immoral! the gop in private - newt gingrich. yep, its all about "values" right? what values?
are you saying strom and jesse left the democratic party because the party was so racist? do you even know anything about either of the men and the hate filled lives they led?
mac vs pc showdown

Indian Trail, NC

#135 Jan 5, 2009
yona wrote:
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You might be right about your racial assumption of rural white Republicans not having an education. I don't know for sure, so aside from pointing out the multi million dollar family farms, I'll let it slide. I will also point out that the hick drop out might have little education and vote as daddy did but he works hard. Which is more than can be said for the welfare addicts in the inner city.
As for your whole second paragraph. I assume that is your liberal blind loyalty showing. You certainly can't substantiate the college town comment or the percentage of scientist from the region. It is all conjecture and propaganda. Just admit you are smearing tall tales to advance your opinion and agenda. As for college towns I give you downtown Asheville as being screaming left wing socialist liberal but the greater city and surrounding metropolitan area is predominantly Republican and you may check BOE for that. I might also mention that you might want to rethink the higher IQ thing in reference to college towns, judging by the real brain trust DT Asheville has become.
my whole second paragraph? yona, do you live under a rock? nourished only by fox news and kool-aid? the south has ALWAYS ben undereducated! thats why NC is ranked something like 43rd in the nation in education. thats why duke university has never met there goal of having 20% of student body being NC natives - our students can't qualify academically! and get out more, darlin, college towns are generally more affluent, better educated, more cosmopolitan, more open to new ideas. and they are generally more liberal! more liberal in the rest of the states than here in the southland, because we have bob jones and liberty and such, but overall more liberal, period.
Singe

Saint Petersburg, FL

#136 Jan 10, 2009
Sarah Palin has already selected and hired her new campaign coordinator for the big push in 2012.

http://people.alfred.edu/~rlb4/images/Garconi...

Since: Jan 09

Ashburn, VA

#137 Jan 10, 2009
Singe wrote:
Sarah Palin has already selected and hired her new campaign coordinator for the big push in 2012.
http://people.alfred.edu/~rlb4/images/Garconi...
they have a plan they know nobody wants Sarh Palin but thats the only way they are going to succeed
Hi BILLY MAYS here

Eddyville, KY

#138 Jan 10, 2009
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free infidel

Asheville, NC

#139 Jan 10, 2009
smokey wrote:
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Now unlike many who post you seem to have some sense. However, I am not terrorized by her. Nor am I denying that I don't think her qualifications as a governor of a state whose population is a couple of hundred thousand less than the county in which I live. Is remotely enough for my vote. I am constantly amazed at how Americans can seriously consider her as a viable candidate in 2012.
I was amazed at how many Americans seriously considered O'Bama in 2008. This argument works both ways about his/her qualifications. I won't pick Palin in 2012 because she isn't qualified and hope the republicans can bring us a real viable candidate but give it a rest on her qualifications. O'Bama certainly wasn't qualified and I am praying (I mean really praying) that he can do what is best for this country...
kim bezotte

Delray Beach, FL

#142 Nov 21, 2009
I have recently been made aware that someone has been contacting/email regarding my distant family and their financial status. I have no idea where this came from, however, this had better be retracked and or deleted immediately.

Thank You, Kim Bezotte
GabachodeMichiga n

United States

#143 Nov 26, 2009
Palin/Dobbs in 2012 - our only hope

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