NSA chief admits testing US cellphone...

NSA chief admits testing US cellphone tracking

There are 20 comments on the Myrtle Beach Online story from Oct 2, 2013, titled NSA chief admits testing US cellphone tracking. In it, Myrtle Beach Online reports that:

Keith Alexander revealed Wednesday that his spy agency once tested whether it could track Americans' cell phone locations, in addition to its practice of sweeping broad information about calls made.

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Since: Apr 13

Lake Oswego, OR

#1 Oct 2, 2013
Bad Bad On The Good Old NSA People So If They Are Spying On All Of Us What Have They Learned From All Of Us. And "I" Guess At Some Point They Being The "NSA" Must Of Thought For Some Reason They Where The "KGB" Or Something And Thank GOD & JESUS For Edward Snowden. And As Far As I'am Concern Barack Obama Is Running A Bad "Ship" And A Bad "Government" So Until We Get The "Obama Government Family Clan" Out Of The "White House" And " Washington DC" We Well Keep Having Problems Like The "Government Shutdowns" Until January 21,2017 Which Is 3 Years 3 Months And 17 Days From Today My Topix Readers. Good Day
Dr Od

Noblesville, IN

#2 Oct 2, 2013
Charles27 wrote:
Bad Bad On The Good Old NSA People So If They Are Spying On All Of Us What Have They Learned From All Of Us. And "I" Guess At Some Point They Being The "NSA" Must Of Thought For Some Reason They Where The "KGB" Or Something And Thank GOD & JESUS For Edward Snowden. And As Far As I'am Concern Barack Obama Is Running A Bad "Ship" And A Bad "Government" So Until We Get The "Obama Government Family Clan" Out Of The "White House" And " Washington DC" We Well Keep Having Problems Like The "Government Shutdowns" Until January 21,2017 Which Is 3 Years 3 Months And 17 Days From Today My Topix Readers. Good Day
NSA!!;-000h, Edward Snowdone sold to Soviet!!;-00
Clayton Leon Winton

Spokane, WA

#3 Oct 2, 2013
I salute the National Security Administration for their good works. I fully support the monitoring of communications, using complex, advanced algorithms to solve crimes, hacking, fraud, theft, plagairism, cell 'cloning,' and all the other criminal activities which hurts all people and defrauds all people, public and private.

If it were not for the efforts of the NSA, banks could suddenly "misplace" your paycheck (unbeknownst to them), with no way to track the thieves or prove your innocense that you were not complicit in such theft.

If it were not for the efforts of the NSA, complex data "worms" could assemble within your banking networks, preventing you from accessing your accounts, and/or misreporting your funds.

If it were not for the efforts of the NSA, other attacks would (and have) occur; including setups against innocent people; and identifying perpetrators of criminal conduct against the innocent.

I love the NSA. The National Security Administration is not horning-into my privates (where the word "horny" originated)-- but private citizens have, and do/are.

Please keep up the good works, National Security Administration. I have nothing to hide from my government. Why would I fear it? Such fear of 'big brother gov't" is the conspiracy-theory promoted by those who aide and abett al Qaida, knowingly or not, playing on, and promoting superstition, to instill fear/terror against those whom serve and protect all people equally against it.

Thank you, National Security Administration and all your employees for your dedication to serving and protecting me from privacy-invading perverts.

Kind regards, always,
Clayton Leon Winton, Spokane, Washington, within the city-limits of Spokane, Washington, State of Washington, United States of America, Dept of State ID#C03183395 (note: I am not, nor have I ever been logging-onto or lived in or around Moses Lake, WA)

“Black Lies Matter”

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#4 Oct 2, 2013
I guess it's ok to commit perjury ever since bill clinton.

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#5 Oct 2, 2013
Clayton Leon Winton wrote:
I salute the National Security Administration for their good works. I fully support the monitoring of communications, using complex, advanced algorithms to solve crimes, hacking, fraud, theft, plagairism, cell 'cloning,' and all the other criminal activities which hurts all people and defrauds all people, public and private.
If it were not for the efforts of the NSA, banks could suddenly "misplace" your paycheck (unbeknownst to them), with no way to track the thieves or prove your innocense that you were not complicit in such theft.
If it were not for the efforts of the NSA, complex data "worms" could assemble within your banking networks, preventing you from accessing your accounts, and/or misreporting your funds.
If it were not for the efforts of the NSA, other attacks would (and have) occur; including setups against innocent people; and identifying perpetrators of criminal conduct against the innocent.
I love the NSA. The National Security Administration is not horning-into my privates (where the word "horny" originated)-- but private citizens have, and do/are.
Please keep up the good works, National Security Administration. I have nothing to hide from my government. Why would I fear it? Such fear of 'big brother gov't" is the conspiracy-theory promoted by those who aide and abett al Qaida, knowingly or not, playing on, and promoting superstition, to instill fear/terror against those whom serve and protect all people equally against it.
Thank you, National Security Administration and all your employees for your dedication to serving and protecting me from privacy-invading perverts.
Kind regards, always,
Clayton Leon Winton, Spokane, Washington, within the city-limits of Spokane, Washington, State of Washington, United States of America, Dept of State ID#C03183395 (note: I am not, nor have I ever been logging-onto or lived in or around Moses Lake, WA)
Only a die hard liberal would write such anti-American drivel.
Halito

Winnemucca, NV

#6 Oct 2, 2013
Is their a Sheriff near you?
Halito

Winnemucca, NV

#7 Oct 2, 2013
Does feverfew work for migrains? How to have fewer fevers?
Halito

Winnemucca, NV

#8 Oct 2, 2013
Or less metabisulfites and fake sweetness?

Since: Apr 13

Lake Oswego, OR

#9 Oct 2, 2013
Dr Od wrote:
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NSA!!;-000h, Edward Snowdone sold to Soviet!!;-00
He Is Better Than Barack Obama Is Socialism And Is Downsizing America And Is Not Like Kennedy Nor Clinton And For Dam Sure Not A Washington Heck He Hasn't Even Served In The United States Military Either "Dr Od" Edward Snowden Is A Patsy Like Lee Harvey Oswald And Timothy McVeigh. And. So "Dr Od" You Must Like The NSA Spying On You 24/7 Because Look At All The News That We Are Getting On The NSA After Edward Snowden Exposed There Secret My Friend.
Halito

Winnemucca, NV

#10 Oct 2, 2013
Was the New Deal in 1933 to hit the Morgan Bank? Anti-trust
Halito

Winnemucca, NV

#11 Oct 2, 2013
What is the truth in Lending?
Halito

Winnemucca, NV

#12 Oct 2, 2013
30 Children were turned down for clinical trials....Will they be safer?
Halito

Winnemucca, NV

#13 Oct 2, 2013
Or the truth in liening?
Eleanor

Mundelein, IL

#14 Oct 3, 2013
There was a man several decades ago who WARNED about the dangerous progress of TECHNOLOGY.

The basic theme was that while civilizations ebb and flow, technology keeps right on going.

Technology does NOT recede. It keeps moving forward, taking with it our personal freedoms along with it.

Who was this man? Ted Kazinski (Unibomber). While his techniques were abominable, his message is clear.

Technology is an ever growing monster, slowly eroding the personal freedoms of humankind.

Ignore his message at your own peril.
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#15 Oct 3, 2013
They are basically a spy agency and people are shocked that they are actually spying. It is nice to see someone is doing their jobs. I expect law enforcement to play by the rules but spy vs spy stuff protecting our country from threats I expect them to break the rules.
Lamer

Piqua, OH

#16 Oct 3, 2013
Robert wrote:
They are basically a spy agency and people are shocked that they are actually spying. It is nice to see someone is doing their jobs. I expect law enforcement to play by the rules but spy vs spy stuff protecting our country from threats I expect them to break the rules.
your clueless if you think this is spy vs spy. Out of all the leaks, which ones are spy vs spy and which ones are the US gov vs its citizens? Or are we the spies now?
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#17 Oct 3, 2013
Lamer wrote:
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your clueless if you think this is spy vs spy. Out of all the leaks, which ones are spy vs spy and which ones are the US gov vs its citizens? Or are we the spies now?
You can't go fishing for particular fish unless you fish in the pond that contains all the fish. That is what this is all about, if they knew which phones to look at they would not have a problem. But they don't, that is why they capture all the data and query the data as needed. You could not do it any other way without diminishing your capabilities at following terrorist. We don't allow law enforcement to do this and information gathered like this is not admissible in one of our courts but they are in a different arena, you seem not to understand this.
Lamer

Piqua, OH

#18 Oct 3, 2013
Robert wrote:
<quoted text>
You can't go fishing for particular fish unless you fish in the pond that contains all the fish. That is what this is all about, if they knew which phones to look at they would not have a problem. But they don't, that is why they capture all the data and query the data as needed. You could not do it any other way without diminishing your capabilities at following terrorist. We don't allow law enforcement to do this and information gathered like this is not admissible in one of our courts but they are in a different arena, you seem not to understand this.
Can you point to ANY leads from the cell phone data collection? They can provide any examples of leads originating there. Which means the leads come from somewhere else. IN that case, they can then get subpena records of those their leads lead to.

Looking at all phones is already considered illegal, they only have laws in place to collect meta data which again, isnt going to help you in any real investigations. So again, the "leads" are not originating with the phone spying so your point there is non existent. There are plenty of other ways to do it as well, if you can not think of them then i am not sure you are the person to be commenting on how this is the "only" way for this to work.

We do allow our law enforcement to do this, the FBI/DEA/ATF all have access to these records and not just cell phone records but much more data than that. Your local police force can ask for your meta data without a warrant as well. So you are again wrong on that front.

You also have the FBI demanding crypto keys from private companies inside the USA. Things like that are why many are moving away from US servers and going with providers outside of the US. It is going to cost the US tech industry a lot and for what? Still no real results from all this spying. And what happens when the only ones left using US services are americans?

And do you really think terrorist are using all these services that the US gov is tapping? Not likely.

And you say this info cant be used in court? Are you for real? I can list dozens of cases where this info ALREADY has been used in court.

Again, i believe you are clueless when it comes to all this spying. We live in a surveillance state and what follows that is even worse.
Heywood Jablomee

Warrington, PA

#19 Oct 3, 2013
Robert wrote:
<quoted text>
You can't go fishing for particular fish unless you fish in the pond that contains all the fish. That is what this is all about, if they knew which phones to look at they would not have a problem. But they don't, that is why they capture all the data and query the data as needed. You could not do it any other way without diminishing your capabilities at following terrorist. We don't allow law enforcement to do this and information gathered like this is not admissible in one of our courts but they are in a different arena, you seem not to understand this.
Hitler and Stalin loved people like you!! Never in my life did I think my government would use gestapo tactics to violate the privacy rights of American citizens! Obama has been a big disappointment!
Robert

Douglasville, GA

#20 Oct 3, 2013
Heywood Jablomee wrote:
<quoted text>
Hitler and Stalin loved people like you!! Never in my life did I think my government would use gestapo tactics to violate the privacy rights of American citizens! Obama has been a big disappointment!
You act like this is a step to something bad, don't you realize that if we have a government acting like Hitler, Stalin or the gestapo they will be doing that sort of thing and more anyway. We are talking about a government using cell phone data to connect the dots figuring out where the bad guys are and who they are talking to. Don't you realize that you are more in jeopardy from lawyers, in many states lawyers can issue their own subpoenas checking up on your cell phone use and locations because they think your screwing around in a divorce case or a company hired the lawyers because they think you are dealing in trade secrets or something. All above board and legal but you don't want to let your own government use the same tactics to track terrorists. I am not afraid of the NSA because they have zero interest in me.

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