Senate Votes To Allow Guns On Amtrak

Senate Votes To Allow Guns On Amtrak

There are 17 comments on the WUSA9.com Washington, DC story from Sep 16, 2009, titled Senate Votes To Allow Guns On Amtrak. In it, WUSA9.com Washington, DC reports that:

The Senate voted Wednesday to permit passengers on the Amtrak passenger railroad to transport handguns in their checked baggage.

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“Insults are not counter points”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#1 Sep 16, 2009
"Americans should not have their Second Amendment rights restricted for any reason, particularly if they choose to travel on America's federally subsidized rail line," said Sen. Roger Wicker, R-Miss.
So when are you guys going to vote to repeal the NFA 1934, GCA 1968, Hughes Amendment of 1986, et.al. that are restricting our 2A rights? Answer me that Roger.

“Tu ne cede malis”

Since: Dec 06

Lots of different places

#2 Sep 16, 2009
GunClinger wrote:
<quoted text>
So when are you guys going to vote to repeal the NFA 1934, GCA 1968, Hughes Amendment of 1986, et.al. that are restricting our 2A rights? Answer me that Roger.
Likely it is: Not any time soon ...
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But it would make for a really nice Christmas present!

“Pompous pontificator”

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#3 Sep 16, 2009
Very-good. I don't fly anymore, but can still use Amtrak to good advantage. This will not-only help a lot of folks to transport their FA on popular routes, but will keep them from getting into trouble in DC as has happened to some in recent times.
Our ranks have swollen; maybe with more firearms owners comes more 'soldiers' for our cause to fight and vote.

“Shall NOT be infringed”

Since: May 09

Buckeye, AZ

#4 Sep 16, 2009
Funny, but I thought that We The People's Constitution stated that; "The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed". That being the case, why does the 'senate' have to "vote" concerning ANYTHING about keeping and bearing arms? Aren't they CONSTITUTIONALLY PREVENTED from enacting ANY law at ALL?

If these treasonous freaks had any gonads. Then they would remove ALL of the UNCONSTITUTIONAL 'laws' that have already infringed upon our INALIENABLE Right.

“Tu ne cede malis”

Since: Dec 06

Lots of different places

#5 Sep 16, 2009
GSCensored wrote:
Funny, but I thought that We The People's Constitution stated that; "The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed". That being the case, why does the 'senate' have to "vote" concerning ANYTHING about keeping and bearing arms? Aren't they CONSTITUTIONALLY PREVENTED from enacting ANY law at ALL?
If these treasonous freaks had any gonads. Then they would remove ALL of the UNCONSTITUTIONAL 'laws' that have already infringed upon our INALIENABLE Right.
Well, you know? We didn't 'get here' overnight, and we won't get back to where we need to be 'overnight' without a balls-to-the-wall, full tilt, peddle-to-the-metal, screaming banshee outta hell, in-your-face, water the tree of liberty kind of conflict.
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But that would leave us seriously depleted and open to predation of the worst sort in the process. Better to fight our enemies that to fight ourselves.
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Of course if we keep writing and speaking words of wisdom, and explain everything in ways most people may comprehend, I do consider that we'll win not only the battle, but the war as well — all without firing a single salvo of high-speed metal. Our forebears did THAT hard part. They left it to US to carry on the easy part of the fight.
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Hang in there, and let us step forward armed with knowledge!

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#6 Sep 17, 2009
Rod Blagoyavich continues to quote Abraham Lincoln. He continues to imply his accuser has it "upside down".

His accuser (who has him on tape) is U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald.

Illinois' cops endorsed Blago for governor.

Blago (while governor) arbitrarily gave $1 million taxdollars to repair a church destroyed by fire. The money went to a private school, so Blago gave another $million to the church.

He vetoed 'moment of silence' legislation in public schools saying it was unconstitutional.

Is he upside down or something ? He's the kind of people making our gun laws.

“Tu ne cede malis”

Since: Dec 06

Lots of different places

#7 Sep 17, 2009
Tory II wrote:
Rod Blagoyavich continues to quote Abraham Lincoln. He continues to imply his accuser has it "upside down".
His accuser (who has him on tape) is U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald.
Illinois' cops endorsed Blago for governor.
Blago (while governor) arbitrarily gave $1 million taxdollars to repair a church destroyed by fire. The money went to a private school, so Blago gave another $million to the church.
He vetoed 'moment of silence' legislation in public schools saying it was unconstitutional.
Is he upside down or something ? He's the kind of people making our gun laws.
Money talks ...

“NO REGRETS”

Since: Jun 09

California

#8 Sep 17, 2009
I really do not see a probelm with allowing guns on Amtrak. A person need protection all of the time. What stops a criminal from putting your life at danger on a train?

I feel that responsibility of the gun carrier is what is important. If the person has gone through all the background checks to buy, and carry a gun, then what are good citizens really afraid of?

Is there some type of hidden agenda that we are afraid to discuss here?
Bruce V

Birmingham, AL

#9 Sep 17, 2009
GunClinger wrote:
<quoted text>
So when are you guys going to vote to repeal the NFA 1934, GCA 1968, Hughes Amendment of 1986, et.al. that are restricting our 2A rights? Answer me that Roger.
The important thing to remember is we must keep educating the general public and fighting the power hungry, control freak politicians for our RIGHTS. Every victory no mater how small is an important one. Take no steps backward! The general contempt for politicians that is brewing because of the Tea Party and 9-12 movements will work to our advantage. Once people come to the realization of how corrupt and truly uncaring these hacks are, they (the general public) will hopefully throw the bums out. It is up to us to educate the public to replace them with only those that will follow the ORIGINAL INTENT of the Constitution.

“Tu ne cede malis”

Since: Dec 06

Lots of different places

#10 Sep 17, 2009
Outlaw Charlie B wrote:
I really do not see a probelm with allowing guns on Amtrak. A person need protection all of the time. What stops a criminal from putting your life at danger on a train?
I feel that responsibility of the gun carrier is what is important. If the person has gone through all the background checks to buy, and carry a gun, then what are good citizens really afraid of?
Is there some type of hidden agenda that we are afraid to discuss here?
Yes: The hidden agenda of making the People beg to exercise certain of their rights in order to reduce them to begging for all of their rights.
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Got that?

“Insults are not counter points”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#11 Sep 17, 2009
The important thing to remember is we must keep educating the general public and fighting the power hungry, control freak politicians for our RIGHTS.
I have recently introduced 2 MORE (ladies nonetheless) to the joys of gun ownership and have been working on their "gun control" by spending weekends and evenings at the range.
It is up to us to educate the public to replace them with only those that will follow the ORIGINAL INTENT of the Constitution.
I agree that we must be ever watchful and diligent and we must never give up the fight. By introducing more non-shooters to the sport our numbers grow and our voices become stronger.

Keep fighting the good fight.
Bruce V

Birmingham, AL

#12 Sep 17, 2009
GunClinger wrote:
<quoted text>
I have recently introduced 2 MORE (ladies nonetheless) to the joys of gun ownership and have been working on their "gun control" by spending weekends and evenings at the range.
<quoted text>
I agree that we must be ever watchful and diligent and we must never give up the fight. By introducing more non-shooters to the sport our numbers grow and our voices become stronger.
Keep fighting the good fight.
Getting more women involved in shooting must be a top priority. Good job on your part. Women stand the most to gain with firearms ownership. The firearm is the true EQUALIZER between a 200 pound rapist and a 125 pound women. A 45 doesn't care how big you are.

“Shall NOT be infringed”

Since: May 09

Buckeye, AZ

#13 Sep 17, 2009
Highlander wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, you know? We didn't 'get here' overnight, and we won't get back to where we need to be 'overnight' without a balls-to-the-wall, full tilt, peddle-to-the-metal, screaming banshee outta hell, in-your-face, water the tree of liberty kind of conflict.
.
But that would leave us seriously depleted and open to predation of the worst sort in the process. Better to fight our enemies that to fight ourselves.
.
Of course if we keep writing and speaking words of wisdom, and explain everything in ways most people may comprehend, I do consider that we'll win not only the battle, but the war as well — all without firing a single salvo of high-speed metal. Our forebears did THAT hard part. They left it to US to carry on the easy part of the fight.
.
Hang in there, and let us step forward armed with knowledge!
That's all well and good. However, being prepared for quick and decisive action would be wise as well. The only thing that tyrants fear is the possibility of swift and sure retaliation.

“Shall NOT be infringed”

Since: May 09

Buckeye, AZ

#14 Sep 17, 2009
Outlaw Charlie B wrote:
I really do not see a probelm with allowing guns on Amtrak. A person need protection all of the time. What stops a criminal from putting your life at danger on a train?
I feel that responsibility of the gun carrier is what is important. If the person has gone through all the background checks to buy, and carry a gun, then what are good citizens really afraid of?
Is there some type of hidden agenda that we are afraid to discuss here?
Yeah, following the U.S. Constitution for one. Where in that document is it made an obligation for the citizen to pass a "background check to buy, and carry a gun"? What do you think the words; "The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed" means? Is there a "background check" required to exercise any of our other "PRE-EXISTENT rights of Nature"?

“Facts exist, even when ignored”

Since: Feb 07

Somewhere in Indiana

#15 Sep 17, 2009
The problem is that the people are being told and taught in schools, that the BoR GIVES us rights, throudh the Government, thus giving the Government more power.

Real Citizens know that the Rights, as listed(enumerated) in the BoR are inherent Rights, and the BoR's intent was to limit Government's infringement on those rights.

This subtle twisting over the years has got most people believing that legislating controls over the practice of our Rights is OK.

The Founding Fathers would be shocked and angered if they could see our Government today.

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#16 Sep 18, 2009
Roadie wrote:
The problem is that the people are being told and taught in schools, that the BoR GIVES us rights, throudh the Government, thus giving the Government more power.
Real Citizens know that the Rights, as listed(enumerated) in the BoR are inherent Rights, and the BoR's intent was to limit Government's infringement on those rights.
This subtle twisting over the years has got most people believing that legislating controls over the practice of our Rights is OK.
The Founding Fathers would be shocked and angered if they could see our Government today.
The Founding Fathers would have King George Bush and Obama executed by firing squad (for treason).
Bruce V

Birmingham, AL

#17 Sep 18, 2009
Roadie wrote:
The problem is that the people are being told and taught in schools, that the BoR GIVES us rights, throudh the Government, thus giving the Government more power.
Real Citizens know that the Rights, as listed(enumerated) in the BoR are inherent Rights, and the BoR's intent was to limit Government's infringement on those rights.
This subtle twisting over the years has got most people believing that legislating controls over the practice of our Rights is OK.
The Founding Fathers would be shocked and angered if they could see our Government today.
We must regain control of the school system. Parents must read the textbooks their children are using and point out the falsehood and lies that are being taught. At the same time we must also regain control of the media; not just the news media but entertainment media as well. Once again, look at the cartoons and children's programing that is being foisted on our youth. At the very least be aware.

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