Immigration Equality and The Gay Comm...

Immigration Equality and The Gay Community: ‘America is forcing me to choose between love & country’

There are 6 comments on the www.outimpact.com story from Feb 4, 2011, titled Immigration Equality and The Gay Community: ‘America is forcing me to choose between love & country’. In it, www.outimpact.com reports that:

There are a lot of stories out there that I call 'sexy activism' stories that get a lot of attention and media coverage such as DADT and the fight for gay marriage, but there are plenty of issues in the gay community that don't get the proper attention from the media and public that they deserve, that are equally valid and deserving. One of them came across my e-mail box in a headline that said it all for me: “America is forcing me to choose to choose between love and country.”

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Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#1 Feb 4, 2011
With a Republican house it is dead in the water. It's just not going to happen in the US any time soon.

Anyone now in this situation does not have as easy an option at Canada as we did when we were in this predicament, as Canada has clamped down on immigration (without regard to sexual orientation but with regard to skills, finances etc.) since 2008 when we landed.

The best bet might be to see if life in the spouse's country is acceptable. If not, the only choice is probably a third county that is still in developing status and welcomes immigrants in general. If the partner's country is one that kills gays and lesbians like Iran, Uganda or Zimbabwe do, a refugee application in one of the ten nation recognizing gay marriage might work.

Unfortunately EU countries that are gay-friendly have also tightened general immigration policies.

American getting involved with a foreign same-sex partner nowadays should consider that alas there is probably no place to go in most cases unless one of the partners is quite rich (that means probably about $2.5 meg in USD) or has an unusual or highly sought career skill, typically at Ph.D. or business executive level and not law or medicine, as these are specific by country. I am not saying this to be nasty or mean as I am upset with the situation myself.

This is an example of an area of gay rights where Obama has accomplished nothing.

Frank Stanton (the real one): Yes we know you are going to rattle off your standard xenophobic response, so you don't need to bother.
Frank Stanton

New York, NY

#2 Feb 4, 2011
NO IMMIGRATION to the U.S.!

Let them go to one of the Worker's Paradises such as Cuba or Canada.

There is no "RIGHT" to emigrate to the U.S.!

I say this PURELY out of environmental concerns. We have TOO MANY people here already !

CANADA AWAITS YOU ALL WITH OPEN ARMS !

:)

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#3 Feb 4, 2011
Frank Stanton wrote:
There is no "RIGHT" to emigrate to the U.S.!
Original intent except when it is entirely inconvenient, right? The federal government's interest was in the naturalization of citizens (which was limited to free, white, males and by extension, their families), immigration itself was left entirely to the states. The first time that anyone really thought that there wasn't a pretty much absolute right to immigrate to this country wasn't until the latter half of the 19th century when Congress freaked out over all the Chinese men coming to this country....
Frank Stanton

New York, NY

#4 Feb 5, 2011
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Original intent except when it is entirely inconvenient, right? The federal government's interest was in the naturalization of citizens (which was limited to free, white, males and by extension, their families), immigration itself was left entirely to the states. The first time that anyone really thought that there wasn't a pretty much absolute right to immigrate to this country wasn't until the latter half of the 19th century when Congress freaked out over all the Chinese men coming to this country....
Only congress has te constitutional authority to write immigration laws. That is one of the points of controversey between the states and the federal government right now. Arizona and other states are trying to usurp congress' authority right now regarding immigration law.

there is no "RIGHT" to immigrate to the U.S. or ANY country. Since congress has the sole authority to write immigration law, I think they should ban all immigration to the U.S for at LEAST the next 10 years. Each person adds an anermous burden to our already-damaged and fragile environment.

If someone wants to immigrate to the Americas, then let them go to one of the "Worker's Paradises" of Cuba or Canada.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#5 Feb 5, 2011
Sorry, but there is NO constitutional authority granted to Congress to regulate immigration, their power is limited to that of the process of the naturalization of citizens. You seem to be forgetting that the first federal immigration law wasn't written until the last half of the 19th century and until then, whoever the states saw fit to allow in had a right to be here. I think the better solution to this so-called problem of "illegal immigration" is to deport our xenophobes.
Frank Stanton

New York, NY

#6 Feb 5, 2011
Rick in Kansas wrote:
Sorry, but there is NO constitutional authority granted to Congress to regulate immigration, their power is limited to that of the process of the naturalization of citizens. You seem to be forgetting that the first federal immigration law wasn't written until the last half of the 19th century and until then, whoever the states saw fit to allow in had a right to be here. I think the better solution to this so-called problem of "illegal immigration" is to deport our xenophobes.
Tell that to Obamaniac®. He asserts that the federal government has EXCLUSIVE jurisdiction over immigration, and I agree with him (There's a FIRST TIME for everything).

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