Far right of GOP wants balanced budge...

Far right of GOP wants balanced budget to be constitutional requirement

There are 29 comments on the The London News.Net story from Jul 15, 2011, titled Far right of GOP wants balanced budget to be constitutional requirement. In it, The London News.Net reports that:

As talks on increasing the US debt ceiling drag on, the Republican Party has introduced a new requirement, saying they will only increase the country's borrowing limit if a constitutional amendment is passed.

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SIR LANCELOT

“I just hate stupid people”

Since: Apr 07

DEEP SOUTHERN ILLINOIS

#1 Jul 15, 2011
Liberals will never go for that, they are too addicted to spending the taxpayers money.

Since: Aug 10

Decatur, GA

#2 Jul 15, 2011
SIR LANCELOT wrote:
Liberals will never go for that, they are too addicted to spending the taxpayers money.
And Republicans are too greedy to help out.

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#3 Jul 15, 2011
I don't care which party proposes and can get such an amendment passed. It would be great to have that. It would keep future presidents, and Congress, from going on spending sprees as they have the past several years, putting us in this situation.

“It certainly will show who’s really serious about trying to get spending under control and who isn’t,” said Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, a leading sponsor of the Senate amendment, which is backed by all 47 Republican senators.

It speaks volumes of the Democrats, seeing as they are against such a measure.
Studebaker

United States

#4 Jul 15, 2011
Far right? WTF, really? Apparently the socialist whackos in this country think the founders were "right wing extremists"!
Rico

Guatemala City, Guatemala

#5 Jul 15, 2011
It's a good start, then get back on the gold standard...

Dump the FED/IMF funny money!!!!!
short trus micro bus

Prophetstown, IL

#6 Jul 15, 2011
add to law ; no middle east security with out payment in usd`s. no credit for cry baby nations

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#7 Jul 15, 2011
Studebaker wrote:
Far right? WTF, really? Apparently the socialist whackos in this country think the founders were "right wing extremists"!
Actually they do.

In the MICAH report issued by the Department of Homeland Security and janet Napilitano's office in 2009, the training guides that law enforcement are to use know state that our founding fathers were terrorist against the crown.

There are tons of videos out there showing this as well. Taped in training rooms for law enforcement where insturctors are telling new recruits that the founders were terrorist.

“Equality for ALL”

Since: Jul 10

Massachusetts

#8 Jul 15, 2011
Okay, you want a balanced budget amendment. Then make sure it includes a clause that monies raised for particular purposes cannot be used for other budgets.

Social Security and Medicaid have a dedicated funding stream, FICA taxes. It actually has a surplus that has been redirected to the general revenue side of the budget. Of the current $14+ trillion deficit,$0 has come from paying these benifits but what do republicans want to cut?
x-nutmegger

Phoenix, AZ

#10 Jul 15, 2011
DaveinMass wrote:
Okay, you want a balanced budget amendment. Then make sure it includes a clause that monies raised for particular purposes cannot be used for other budgets.
Social Security and Medicaid have a dedicated funding stream, FICA taxes. It actually has a surplus that has been redirected to the general revenue side of the budget. Of the current $14+ trillion deficit,$0 has come from paying these benifits but what do republicans want to cut?
Go piss on the grave of LBJ. He is the one who in 1966 forced through the surplus from SS being dumped into the Fed gen. fund account.

Why ? To pay for the VN War and his War on Poverty.

His scheme was nothing but a sophisticated Ponzi play. Steal your money then replace with an IOU that your normal income taxes cover with interest along with a repurchase of your original payments.
So in effect you contribute directly or indirectly about 190% of your SSI account for every $1.00 withheld from your paycheck.
You pay it nearly twice over if not more.
Bringmedinner

San Jose, CA

#11 Jul 15, 2011
A Leftist believes a Pledge of Allegiance is far right, so believing balancing a checkbook as far right comes as no surprise.

“I Offer You Truth!”

Since: Jul 07

Tampa, FL

#12 Jul 15, 2011
Kahoki wrote:
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Actually they do.
In the MICAH report issued by the Department of Homeland Security and janet Napilitano's office in 2009, the training guides that law enforcement are to use know state that our founding fathers were terrorist against the crown.
There are tons of videos out there showing this as well. Taped in training rooms for law enforcement where insturctors are telling new recruits that the founders were terrorist.
Surely you'll provide us with a link to this report. Otherwise we'll have to assume you bent over and pulled this "stuff" out of your behind.

Don't tell us to "google it"; I did and found none of what you're claiming.

I'll check back later.

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#13 Jul 15, 2011
DapperDave wrote:
<quoted text>
Surely you'll provide us with a link to this report. Otherwise we'll have to assume you bent over and pulled this "stuff" out of your behind.
Don't tell us to "google it"; I did and found none of what you're claiming.
I'll check back later.
Its the MIAC Report. Mess up there.

http://www.constitution.org/abus/le/miac-stra...

Video of training.

“I Offer You Truth!”

Since: Jul 07

Tampa, FL

#15 Jul 15, 2011
Kahoki wrote:
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Its the MIAC Report. Mess up there.
http://www.constitution.org/abus/le/miac-stra...
Video of training.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ZPg9MdN9GioXX
The first link contains nothing describing the "founding fathers" as terrorists.

The seecond link does show a guy (trainer) saying the "founding fathers" were the first terrorist group in America. However, there is no way to determine who the guy is, what group/organization he represents, where the training is being conducted, or who he's training. Hell, there's not even an American flag anywhere in sight.

It could very well be exactly as you've described it, but there's really nothing in either link that definitively backs up what you're saying.

Oh well...

“Equality for ALL”

Since: Jul 10

Massachusetts

#16 Jul 15, 2011
x-nutmegger wrote:
<quoted text>
Go piss on the grave of LBJ. He is the one who in 1966 forced through the surplus from SS being dumped into the Fed gen. fund account.
Why ? To pay for the VN War and his War on Poverty.
His scheme was nothing but a sophisticated Ponzi play. Steal your money then replace with an IOU that your normal income taxes cover with interest along with a repurchase of your original payments.
So in effect you contribute directly or indirectly about 190% of your SSI account for every $1.00 withheld from your paycheck.
You pay it nearly twice over if not more.
My statement had nothing to do with when or why it was allowed to happen. But if you're talking changing the system now, the practice that allows the diversion of funds must be addressed in any balanced budget amendment.

Since: Jul 08

Drake, CO

#17 Jul 15, 2011
Kahoki wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually they do.
In the MICAH report issued by the Department of Homeland Security and janet Napilitano's office in 2009, the training guides that law enforcement are to use know state that our founding fathers were terrorist against the crown.
There are tons of videos out there showing this as well. Taped in training rooms for law enforcement where insturctors are telling new recruits that the founders were terrorist.
Using the word "terrorist" the way we define it now they were terrorists.
five-one

Tampa, FL

#18 Jul 15, 2011
I got news for The London News.There is nothing "far right" about balancing your budget.Its common sense and anybody thinking its "far right" or far any thing is missing a marble or two.
Liberal Patriot

Lihue, HI

#19 Jul 15, 2011
Just more corporate GOP conserative political posturing, whining and procrastinating rather than actually sitting down and working toward a solution!
x-nutmegger

Phoenix, AZ

#22 Jul 15, 2011
DaveinMass wrote:
<quoted text>
My statement had nothing to do with when or why it was allowed to happen. But if you're talking changing the system now, the practice that allows the diversion of funds must be addressed in any balanced budget amendment.
There are 2 obvious ones but i don't know if the pols have the guts to make hard choices out of fear of their own jobs.

* 1986 R.Reagan and Tip O'Neil fixed the system for a generation by raising the age of full retirement benefits. It needs to be done as people live longer and longer.

* Correct the COLA formula error that doesn't reflect consumers adjusting to price fluctuations.
It assumes you will use just as much gas at $4.00 a gal as at $2.00 a gal. Or that you won't change the amount or type of meat you eat as prices move around such as the amounts of beef, pork , chicken and lamb.

Adjusting the COLA will save $20B a year.
soap on a rope

Pittsfield, MA

#23 Jul 15, 2011
DavidH64 wrote:
I don't care which party proposes and can get such an amendment passed. It would be great to have that. It would keep future presidents, and Congress, from going on spending sprees as they have the past several years, putting us in this situation.
“It certainly will show who’s really serious about trying to get spending under control and who isn’t,” said Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, a leading sponsor of the Senate amendment, which is backed by all 47 Republican senators.
It speaks volumes of the Democrats, seeing as they are against such a measure.
Agree
Stoneman

Boise, ID

#24 Jul 15, 2011
I was sitting in the john reading the paper this week and the front page was full of news about how Lord Obama was telling seniors if those Evil Republicans don't give him a fresh credit card to run up, they might not get their Social Security checks.

Same newspaper, SAME PAGE, there was an article about a local dance troupe gleefully announcing that they had a $100,000 grant from the National Endowment for the Arts to "bring interpretive dance to office and hospital spaces".

Fifty three similar grants were handed out across the country in a federal program to "promote local art".

Does anybody else out there see anything wrong with this picture?

Sure, we're only talking about approximately 5.4 million dollars to have a bunch of flit boys in tights scamper around in office buildings. What's $5.4 million when we owe 16 TRILLION DOLLARS?

But we also can't stop subsidizing corn. Or get out of Iraq. Or stop subsidizing windmills. Or stop paying people NOT to work for three years.

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