Bennet bill seeks visas for illegal immigrants studying math, science

Dec 14, 2011 Full story: www.denverpost.com 40
Undocumented students who graduate from high school and enroll in college in a science, technology or math program would be eligible for temporary student visas in an immigration-overhaul bill introduced Tuesday by Sen. Michael Bennet. Full Story
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sterco

Helena, MT

#24 Dec 15, 2011
Good luck with that CA proposition!!! You will need it bitch!!!

Since: Nov 11

Seattle, WA

#25 Dec 15, 2011
Immigrants R us wrote:
<quoted text>Protecting illegal immigrants, state by state
The failure of Congress and recent presidents to overhaul the immigration system led Arizona and other states to devise their own crackdowns on illegal immigrants. Now, immigrant rights groups are pursuing their own drives, state by state and in varied ways, to protect illegal immigrants. 
Connecticut and Maryland have passed laws to charge lower in-state college tuition rates to students who are illegal immigrants. Utah has created identification cards for illegal immigrant "guest workers" and their families. New California laws will offer college financial aid to illegal immigrants and ensure that their cars are not seized if they are caught at traffic stops without driver's licenses — which they cannot legally obtain.
Most recently, a bipartisan group in California has drafted a November 2012 state ballot measure aimed at allowing hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to come forward and pay income taxes without fear of deportation. It would also attempt to spare their employers from prosecution. 
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/natio...
All illegals are criminals,and need to have all they own,taken away,and be deported after they pay for their crimes.
sterco

Helena, MT

#26 Dec 15, 2011
The CA Dream Act is up to be SHOT IN THE AZZ on the ballot also. Getting shot down is not progress SOCIALIST!!!
sterco

Helena, MT

#27 Dec 15, 2011
Immigrants R us wrote:
<quoted text> you need compliments because u look too unhappy with your life
No I am unhappy with your life and those you ADVOCATE for socialist bitch!!!
sterco

Helena, MT

#28 Dec 15, 2011
Immigrants R us wrote:
<quoted text>Protecting illegal immigrants, state by state
The failure of Congress and recent presidents to overhaul the immigration system led Arizona and other states to devise their own crackdowns on illegal immigrants. Now, immigrant rights groups are pursuing their own drives, state by state and in varied ways, to protect illegal immigrants. 
Connecticut and Maryland have passed laws to charge lower in-state college tuition rates to students who are illegal immigrants. Utah has created identification cards for illegal immigrant "guest workers" and their families. New California laws will offer college financial aid to illegal immigrants and ensure that their cars are not seized if they are caught at traffic stops without driver's licenses — which they cannot legally obtain.
Most recently, a bipartisan group in California has drafted a November 2012 state ballot measure aimed at allowing hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to come forward and pay income taxes without fear of deportation. It would also attempt to spare their employers from prosecution. 
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/natio...
http://dreamact.info/forum/sho wthread.php?t=25548
sterco

Helena, MT

#29 Dec 15, 2011
sterco

Helena, MT

#30 Dec 15, 2011
If you want an insight into the illegal mind check out the above forum!!! There is nothing they will not do to better themselves at our expense. Dream Act Buttholers!!!!
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#31 Dec 15, 2011
they have to do that because Americans got soooooo dumb they can't take their own jobs. they lost out on 5 million jobs they were offered because they did not go to college, they can't fill the computer science and engineering jobs they are being offered. Unless we bring people here from the other countries that do value higher education to take our jobs, our economy will go completely under.

Our people are too busy declaring they hate college, too busy being the fattest people in the world, too busy ONLY repeating Fox TV and hating everyone, too busy committing crimes and being big bullies, they are too busy declaring they want more and more wars to handle their business, to get educations and good paying jobs. It's just another sign the U.S. has gone third world. Americans IQs got too low for them to even try to come back or compete with the rest of the world. Someone else has to fix everything for them while they run around waiving their guns. Yahoo. Yahoo idiots.

Neither party has ever shut down the southern border. Both parties only want the Hispanic vote because they are the fastest growing group of voters. This is why Newt wants to give them amnesty, why Perry likes them, why Bush tried to pass an amnesty, why Reagan passed an amnesty. How does Obama get blamed for this when he could have passed an amnesty and he didn't and it was Reagan who did pass an amnesty and Bush also tried to pass an amnesty? Same dumb people who hate college say Obama is responsible for 30 years of an open southern border and for both parties being pro-illegal.
sterco

Helena, MT

#32 Dec 15, 2011
Pamela wrote:
they have to do that because Americans got soooooo dumb they can't take their own jobs. they lost out on 5 million jobs they were offered because they did not go to college, they can't fill the computer science and engineering jobs they are being offered. Unless we bring people here from the other countries that do value higher education to take our jobs, our economy will go completely under.
Our people are too busy declaring they hate college, too busy being the fattest people in the world, too busy ONLY repeating Fox TV and hating everyone, too busy committing crimes and being big bullies, they are too busy declaring they want more and more wars to handle their business, to get educations and good paying jobs. It's just another sign the U.S. has gone third world. Americans IQs got too low for them to even try to come back or compete with the rest of the world. Someone else has to fix everything for them while they run around waiving their guns. Yahoo. Yahoo idiots.
Neither party has ever shut down the southern border. Both parties only want the Hispanic vote because they are the fastest growing group of voters. This is why Newt wants to give them amnesty, why Perry likes them, why Bush tried to pass an amnesty, why Reagan passed an amnesty. How does Obama get blamed for this when he could have passed an amnesty and he didn't and it was Reagan who did pass an amnesty and Bush also tried to pass an amnesty? Same dumb people who hate college say Obama is responsible for 30 years of an open southern border and for both parties being pro-illegal.
Major tech companies brought illegals in to live on wages that support a fish heads and rice diet and efficiency appartment living. They got away with this by advertising the jobs in areas where it was unlikely anyone would apply. Hence the wage scale has been driven down artificially to the point where tech students can not afford to pay down their student loans!!! Screw these assholes who are undercutting our citizens!!! Does anyone see the trend here? Drive the American middle class into the dirt by bringing in TURD WURLD TRESPASSERS to compete with them!!! It is a fact!!! We have the finest politicians money can buy and that is why they advocate for bringing in more foreign labor at our citizens expense!!! GO TO HELL PAMELA!!! AND SCREW YOUR FOREIGN LABOR!!!
Immigrants r us

Birmingham, AL

#33 Dec 15, 2011
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274...

Of the nine people who shared this year's Nobel Prizes in chemistry, physics and medicine, eight are American citizens, a testament to this country's support for pioneering research. But those numbers disguise a more important story. Four of the American winners were born outside of the United States and only came here as graduate or post-doctoral students or as scientists. They came because our system of education and advanced research has been a magnet for creative talent.

Unfortunately, we cannot count on that magnetism to last. Culturally, we remain a very open society. But that openness stands in sharp contrast to arcane U.S. immigration policies that discourage young scholars from settling in the U.S.

Those policies come at a high price. Graduate and postgraduate student immigrants are essential to creating new, well-paid jobs in our economy. Of the 35 young innovators recognized this year by Technology Review magazine for their exceptional new ideas, only six went to high school in the United States. From MIT alone, foreign graduates have founded an estimated 2,340 active U.S. companies that employ over 100,000 people.

Amazingly, if as incoming students they had told U.S. immigration authorities that they hoped to stay on as entrepreneurs after graduation, they would have been turned back at the border. Our immigration laws specifically require that students return to their home countries after earning their degrees and then apply for a visa if they want to return and work in the U.S. It would be hard to invent a policy more counterproductive to our national interest.

If the U.S. was the only country in the world that offered scholars scientific freedom, a cumbersome immigration process might not be that harmful. But the world today is teeming with well-funded opportunities to do first-class science. To be competitive, the U.S. needs to send the unmistakable message that we want scholars to stay.

To do that we need the kind of broad new immigration policy that would allow foreign students who earn advanced degrees in science, technology, engineering and math to easily become legal permanent residents. President Barack Obama and many others are already calling for such a policy.
Arcane immigration policies discourage young scholars from settling in the U.S.
sterco

Helena, MT

#34 Dec 15, 2011
Immigrants r us wrote:
http://online.wsj.com/article/ SB1000142405274870432200457447 7700761571592.html
Of the nine people who shared this year's Nobel Prizes in chemistry, physics and medicine, eight are American citizens, a testament to this country's support for pioneering research. But those numbers disguise a more important story. Four of the American winners were born outside of the United States and only came here as graduate or post-doctoral students or as scientists. They came because our system of education and advanced research has been a magnet for creative talent.
Unfortunately, we cannot count on that magnetism to last. Culturally, we remain a very open society. But that openness stands in sharp contrast to arcane U.S. immigration policies that discourage young scholars from settling in the U.S.
Those policies come at a high price. Graduate and postgraduate student immigrants are essential to creating new, well-paid jobs in our economy. Of the 35 young innovators recognized this year by Technology Review magazine for their exceptional new ideas, only six went to high school in the United States. From MIT alone, foreign graduates have founded an estimated 2,340 active U.S. companies that employ over 100,000 people.
Amazingly, if as incoming students they had told U.S. immigration authorities that they hoped to stay on as entrepreneurs after graduation, they would have been turned back at the border. Our immigration laws specifically require that students return to their home countries after earning their degrees and then apply for a visa if they want to return and work in the U.S. It would be hard to invent a policy more counterproductive to our national interest.
If the U.S. was the only country in the world that offered scholars scientific freedom, a cumbersome immigration process might not be that harmful. But the world today is teeming with well-funded opportunities to do first-class science. To be competitive, the U.S. needs to send the unmistakable message that we want scholars to stay.
To do that we need the kind of broad new immigration policy that would allow foreign students who earn advanced degrees in science, technology, engineering and math to easily become legal permanent residents. President Barack Obama and many others are already calling for such a policy.
Arcane immigration policies discourage young scholars from settling in the U.S.
Combined with intellectual theft of technologies developed by us and educational resources diverted to the Turd Wurld by advocates like you we will be the SUCKERS OF THE WORLD!!! We have more than enough brilliant young minds in this nation without delving into the TURD WURLD for students!!! Send your illegal DREAM ACT BUTTHOLE students back to the TURD WURLD!!! It needs all the help it can get!!!
sterco

Helena, MT

#35 Dec 15, 2011
.http://dreamact.info/forum/sh owthread.php...

A lot of these Dreamies are obviously future Einsteins!!! They are going to make tremendous contributions to our society!!! Yeah Sure!!! Just like their illegal parents are doing. Gigs up and that is why the Dream Act didn't pass muster like five times!!! It won't pass muster next time either!!! GIVE IT UP!!!
sterco

Helena, MT

#36 Dec 15, 2011
.http://dreamact.info/forum/sh owthread.php...
sterco

Helena, MT

#37 Dec 15, 2011
http://dreamact.info/forum/showthread.php...

Go check out the Washington Drivers License forum in the lounge and see what fine upstanding young FRAUDS we are talking about here!!! It would be great if the entire nation saw the conivery!!!
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#38 Dec 15, 2011
sterco wrote:
<quoted text>Combined with intellectual theft of technologies developed by us and educational resources diverted to the Turd Wurld by advocates like you we will be the SUCKERS OF THE WORLD!!! We have more than enough brilliant young minds in this nation without delving into the TURD WURLD for students!!! Send your illegal DREAM ACT BUTTHOLE students back to the TURD WURLD!!! It needs all the help it can get!!!
LOL. Americans are the dumbest people in any developed country. They are anti-college. You are talking about the few, few normal, sane, smart people like me who are left in the country. I'm the one you all bash, beat up on because I am smart. The tea party is all dumb men who hate, hate, hate smart women, want to kill them. When I leave, when the one percent leave, when those with IQs in the 130s and 140s get out of here to get away from you 90 point IQ violent nuts, you are toast, finished, done, third world. Too bad bubba, you tea party nuts hated college so much, you hate smart people so much, those brilliant minds you speak of are leaving the U.S. to get free from the violence of the idiot tea party. No one smart is carrying you all anymore. Make it on your own dumb ass bubbas.
sterco

Helena, MT

#39 Dec 15, 2011
http://dreamact.info/forum/showthread.php...

Never mind I did the research for you!!! These are the Dream Act FRAUDS that are attempting to get a WA drivers license. Check the posts out in descending order!!! I already forwarded this to WA and that has a lot to do with why things have become much more difficult for them!!! What wonderful aspiring citizen fraud assets we are looking at here!!!
Immigrants r us

Birmingham, AL

#40 Dec 15, 2011
Lol it's getting hot in here ;-)
Immigrants r us

Birmingham, AL

#41 Dec 15, 2011
http://www.prb.org/Articles/2011/usforeignbor...
(January 2011) In an article in the journal Demography, Vanderbilt University professor Mariano Sana reported that the ratio of foreign-born to U.S.-born scientists and engineers doubled in little more than a decade (see figure).1 In 1994, there were 6.2 U.S.-born workers for every foreign-born worker in science and engineering occupations. By 2006, the ratio was 3.1 to 1. More than 60 percent of foreign-born scientists and engineers in the United States in 2009 were from Asia, according to Census Bureau data analyzed by PRB. Nearly one-fourth were from India, with another one-fifth from China, the Philippines, and Taiwan. Foreign-born residents not only expanded the U.S. high-tech workforce but helped start new businesses that have generated billions in revenue and hired tens of thousands of workers. Foreign-born entrepreneurs helped start one-fourth of all new U.S. engineering and technology business established between 1995 and 2005, including Google and eBay. In high-tech Silicon Valley, California, more than one-half of business start-ups over that period involved a foreign-born scientist or engineer; one-fourth included an Indian or Chinese immigrant.2
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http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/infbrief/nsf073...
A Profile of Immigrant Scientists and Engineers
NSF 07-324 | June 2007 | PDF  

Over the past decade, both the U.S. college-educated workforce and the science and engineering (S&E) workforce have grown dramatically (NSF/SRS 2005). An important factor in that growth has been immigration: in 2003, of the 21.6 million scientists and engineers in the United States, 16%(3,352,000) were immigrants.[1] Although it is simple to classify all of these individuals together under one label, doing so masks the great diversity within the group. It includes individuals from every continent in the world including those who came to the United States as infants, as well as those who came when they were well into their professional careers. It also includes those who were fully educated in the United States, some who were fully educated abroad, and some with a combination of degrees earned in the United States and abroad.

This InfoBrief describes some of this group's major characteristics in 2003 and presents an analysis of reasons reported by immigrant scientists and engineers for first coming to the United States for 6 months or longer.

Demographic Profile
In 2003, almost two-thirds (64%) of U.S. immigrant scientists and engineers were naturalized citizens, compared with 40% of the overall U.S. immigrant population (U.S. Census Bureau 2001), and another 11% were temporary residents (table 1).[2] Three-fourths of all immigrant scientists and engineers were born in Asia or Europe (56% and 19%, respectively). Individuals born in Central America (including Mexico), the Caribbean, and South America account for another 15% 
Scientists engineers working in USA are increasingly likely to be foreign-born

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#42 Dec 15, 2011
Immigrants R us wrote:
<quoted text>Protecting illegal immigrants, state by state
The failure of Congress and recent presidents to overhaul the immigration system led Arizona and other states to devise their own crackdowns on illegal immigrants. Now, immigrant rights groups are pursuing their own drives, state by state and in varied ways, to protect illegal immigrants. 
Connecticut and Maryland have passed laws to charge lower in-state college tuition rates to students who are illegal immigrants. Utah has created identification cards for illegal immigrant "guest workers" and their families. New California laws will offer college financial aid to illegal immigrants and ensure that their cars are not seized if they are caught at traffic stops without driver's licenses — which they cannot legally obtain.
Most recently, a bipartisan group in California has drafted a November 2012 state ballot measure aimed at allowing hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to come forward and pay income taxes without fear of deportation. It would also attempt to spare their employers from prosecution. 
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/natio...
There's no need to overhaul something we've never tried enforcing in the first place. We have no clue if the present laws work or not, because they have never been strictly enforced, as they should be.

Until we try it, we don't need any reform.

We do, however, need welfare reform. That alone would fill those jobs now filled by illegal aliens. So sorry to inform you of that.

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#43 Dec 15, 2011
Pamela wrote:
they have to do that because Americans got soooooo dumb they can't take their own jobs. they lost out on 5 million jobs they were offered because they did not go to college, they can't fill the computer science and engineering jobs they are being offered. Unless we bring people here from the other countries that do value higher education to take our jobs, our economy will go completely under.
Our people are too busy declaring they hate college, too busy being the fattest people in the world, too busy ONLY repeating Fox TV and hating everyone, too busy committing crimes and being big bullies, they are too busy declaring they want more and more wars to handle their business, to get educations and good paying jobs. It's just another sign the U.S. has gone third world. Americans IQs got too low for them to even try to come back or compete with the rest of the world. Someone else has to fix everything for them while they run around waiving their guns. Yahoo. Yahoo idiots.
Neither party has ever shut down the southern border. Both parties only want the Hispanic vote because they are the fastest growing group of voters. This is why Newt wants to give them amnesty, why Perry likes them, why Bush tried to pass an amnesty, why Reagan passed an amnesty. How does Obama get blamed for this when he could have passed an amnesty and he didn't and it was Reagan who did pass an amnesty and Bush also tried to pass an amnesty? Same dumb people who hate college say Obama is responsible for 30 years of an open southern border and for both parties being pro-illegal.
Bzzt! Wrong! And, the majority of illegal aliens are from Mexico -- and they are low/no educated, so how exactly will they be taking those jobs?

Welfare reform is what is needed!

http://www.fairus.org/site/News2/651653592...

Corporate executives in the tech industry have long called for an increase in pliant, lower-cost foreign labor. They argue that the U.S. is failing to produce a sufficient number of talented scientists and engineers. These claims, however, are based upon no actual evidence and do not hold up to scrutiny. Behind the industry’s calls for guest worker programs that attract the “best and brightest” is the reality that U.S. tech companies are cutting wages by discriminating against qualified American workers, with the full complicity of the federal government. Labor market data clearly indicate that the U.S. has no shortage of qualified scientists and engineers, and economic research demonstrates that immigrants do not make any special contribution to innovation. However, the flood of low-wage guest workers harms American workers and may threaten the nation’s future competitiveness.

Skilled guest worker programs are being abused by employers, putting many Americans out of work and denying opportunities to millions of others. Even with unemployment at a 30-year high, corporate executives who use foreign workers to suppress wages in the tech industry have found support on Capitol Hill and in the White House. It goes against all sense of fairness, and it is astounding to realize, that Americans are being denied job opportunities in America while at the same time politicians are calling for the expansion of guest worker programs that will exacerbate this problem. The argument that there exists a shortage of skilled workers in the United States was not true before the recent recession, and certainly is not true now. Simply put, those who promote the idea of a “shortage” of scientists and engineers do so without regard for labor market evidence or the welfare of American workers.

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