Editorial: Oppose federal effort to f...

Editorial: Oppose federal effort to force gun laws on states

There are 101 comments on the Denver Post story from Apr 1, 2012, titled Editorial: Oppose federal effort to force gun laws on states. In it, Denver Post reports that:

We urge Colorado's Democratic Sens. Mark Udall and Michael Bennet to redeem themselves and oppose the measure this go-round. The core of the problem is this: The measures - and there are two of them - would mandate that any state issuing concealed-carry permits recognize all out-of-state permits, regardless of how easy it might be to get permits in ... (more)

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“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#21 Apr 5, 2012
Richard_ wrote:
No, Illinois residents should vote politicians to change their laws. There's no law prohibiting able persons from purchasing, baring and keeping arms in Illinois.
For many creatures, their words fail to match reality. For a few others, they seem to have been disconnected from reality.
Sick of Stupid

Ames, IA

#22 Apr 5, 2012
Why does the NRA allow any gun laws? Guns should be availible at your corner bar. They should be cheap, loaded, and availible everywhere to anybody just like food. The more guns we have on the streets the safer everyone will be.
Wearing a hoodie? You should be able to buy a 9mm with your skittles.
Neighborhood watch captain? You should be issued a gun.
10th grader who gets picked on in school? You should be able to get a 38 with your school lunch.
Single mom? You should be able to carry a gun to your kids scoccer games, just to be safe from other loud parents.
Alcoholic, abusive, husband? Maybe a good pistol whipping will get your point across.
Guns are good for America. In the future, all Americans will be shot at some point in their lives.
All gun laws are a crock. Americans have a God given right to shoot other Americans for anything.

Since: Nov 11

Salt Lake City, UT

#23 Apr 5, 2012
Sick of Stupid wrote:
Why does the NRA allow any gun laws? Guns should be availible at your corner bar. They should be cheap, loaded, and availible everywhere to anybody just like food. The more guns we have on the streets the safer everyone will be.
Wearing a hoodie? You should be able to buy a 9mm with your skittles.
Neighborhood watch captain? You should be issued a gun.
10th grader who gets picked on in school? You should be able to get a 38 with your school lunch.
Single mom? You should be able to carry a gun to your kids scoccer games, just to be safe from other loud parents.
Alcoholic, abusive, husband? Maybe a good pistol whipping will get your point across.
Guns are good for America. In the future, all Americans will be shot at some point in their lives.
All gun laws are a crock. Americans have a God given right to shoot other Americans for anything.
I love hyperbole!

“'We The People'”

Since: Dec 06

Yeadon, PA

#24 Apr 5, 2012
Tory II wrote:
<quoted text>Alabama can't force Illinois to respect the 2nd amendment. Duh. That's where the feds come in, they should compel Illinois to respect the rights of Illinoisans.
According to the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

It is an individual right, as are all 10 Amendments. That right cannot be taken away.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#25 Apr 6, 2012
Sick of Stupid wrote:
Why does the NRA allow any gun laws? Guns should be availible at your corner bar. They should be cheap, loaded, and availible everywhere to anybody just like food. The more guns we have on the streets the safer everyone will be.
Wearing a hoodie? You should be able to buy a 9mm with your skittles.
Neighborhood watch captain? You should be issued a gun.
10th grader who gets picked on in school? You should be able to get a 38 with your school lunch.
Single mom? You should be able to carry a gun to your kids scoccer games, just to be safe from other loud parents.
Alcoholic, abusive, husband? Maybe a good pistol whipping will get your point across.
Guns are good for America. In the future, all Americans will be shot at some point in their lives.
All gun laws are a crock. Americans have a God given right to shoot other Americans for anything.
You're confused and not well educated, which explains your frustration.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#26 Apr 6, 2012
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>Then the states need to form a compact to agree on standards for licensing or the states will lose their right to regulate concealed carry, which will then become a federal power, one the president could quash by executive order. Is that what you want to see happen? LOL>
You are mistaken.. With a Florida permit you can legally carry a firearm, stun guns, knives, and billy clubs in a concealed fashion. Florida has reciprocity with 34 other states and you must abide by the firearms laws of the state you enter Most only recognize firearms under their concealed carry laws while some allow other weapons.One merely googles the firearms laws of the state or states you will be traveling to and make sure you abide by their laws. I have done it many times. Full reciprocity is a good idea. I can legally carry in Pennsylvania, Vermont and New Hampshire but not in New York,Massachusetts or Maine. That is insanity. Imagine if they did the same with driver's licenses?

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#27 Apr 6, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>
Full reciprocity is a good idea. I can legally carry in Pennsylvania, Vermont and New Hampshire but not in New York,Massachusetts or Maine. That is insanity.
No it isn't insanity, states have the authority to regulate licensed concealed carry privileges any federal interference is an end run on state rights.

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#28 Apr 7, 2012
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>No it isn't insanity, states have the authority to regulate licensed SLAVERY privileges any federal interference is an end run on state rights.
Show us a pic of your favorite full auto.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#29 Apr 7, 2012
Richard_ wrote:
This law should not be enacted because just like the healthcare bill, it creates a federal power where none exists, nor where none was intended.
So, you believe an arbitrary geopolitical line is justification to curb your second amendment rights? Our US Constitution protects your rights in all fifty states.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#30 Apr 7, 2012
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>Then the states need to form a compact to agree on standards for licensing or the states will lose their right to regulate concealed carry, which will then become a federal power, one the president could quash by executive order. Is that what you want to see happen? LOL>
States will lose their rights? Now you want to grant the government rights?

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#31 Apr 7, 2012
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>Basically, usurping the rights of the states, an elimination of state soverignty. You'll find out what this means when x number of states allow gay marriages and the feds come along and mandate (no pun intended) gay marriages on the rest of the states.
Gay marriage isn’t a constitutionally protected right. The right to bear arms is.
downhill246

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#32 Apr 7, 2012
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>No it isn't insanity, states have the authority to regulate licensed concealed carry privileges any federal interference is an end run on state rights.
So is the 14th Amendment but Florida has a firearms preemption law meaning only the state legislators can write firearms laws. That makes it much easier to know the laws and to prevent violating some local ordinance that you didn't even know existed until you got charged for violating it. The law we are discussing, if passed, would alleviate a major problem for law abiding citizens who may inadvertently be victimized by anti gun states with chips on their shoulders.

WASHINGTON -- Missed flights only inconvenience most people. A late flight landed Utah gun owner Greg Revell in jail for 10 days after he got stranded in New Jersey with an unloaded firearm he had legally checked with his luggage in Salt Lake City.
The Supreme Court could decide Tuesday whether to consider letting Revell sue Port Authority of New York and New Jersey police for arresting him on illegal possession of a firearm in New Jersey and for not returning his gun and ammunition to him for more than three years.

Lower courts have thrown out his lawsuit
Revell was flying from Salt Lake City to Allentown, Pa., on March 31, 2005, with connections in Minneapolis and Newark, N.J. He had checked his Utah-licensed gun and ammunition with his luggage in Salt Lake City and asked airport officials to deliver them both with his luggage in Allentown.
But the flight from Minneapolis to Newark was late, so Revell missed his connection to Allentown. The airline wanted to bus its passengers to Allentown, but Revell realized that his luggage had not made it onto the bus and got off. After finding his luggage had been given a final destination of Newark by mistake, Revell missed the bus. He collected his luggage, including his gun and ammunition, and decided to wait in a nearby hotel with his stuff until the next flight in the morning.
When Revell tried to check in for the morning flight, he again informed the airline officials about his gun and ammunition to have them checked through to Allentown. He was reported to the TSA, and then arrested by Port Authority police for having a gun in New Jersey without a New Jersey license.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/18/tr...

That isn't the only example of a miscarriage of justice when it comes to law abiding gun owners.Pas the law and expand the rights of gun owners.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#33 Apr 7, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Gay marriage isn’t a constitutionally protected right. The right to bear arms is.
Bearing arms is a right, concealed carry is a state licensed privilege.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#34 Apr 7, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
States will lose their rights? Now you want to grant the government rights?
States have rights, states are groups of people, ever heard of the right to assembly? Corporations have rights as well, this is old news, the precident is almost as old as the country itself.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#35 Apr 7, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Gay marriage isn’t a constitutionally protected right. The right to bear arms is.
Actually, marriage, owning a car, owning a house, having a job, all rights and protected.

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#36 Apr 7, 2012
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, marriage, owning a car, owning a house, having a job, all rights and protected.
Cold air makes YOU sweat.

Since: Nov 11

Salt Lake City, UT

#37 Apr 7, 2012
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>Bearing arms is a right, concealed carry is a state licensed privilege.
Driving is a right? Yet a person can have their driving "privileges" revoked.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#38 Apr 7, 2012
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>Bearing arms is a right, concealed carry is a state licensed privilege.
The method of carry isn’t mentioned by the US Constitution. However, the right to bear arms is clear. You’re wrong, you’re simply accustom to licensed conceal carry and accept it as constitutional.

Did you believe the laws struck down in DC and Chicago were legal?

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#39 Apr 7, 2012
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>States have rights, states are groups of people, ever heard of the right to assembly? Corporations have rights as well, this is old news, the precident is almost as old as the country itself.
The people have rights, the government hasn't any rights.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#40 Apr 7, 2012
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, marriage, owning a car, owning a house, having a job, all rights and protected.
A feeble attempt to expand scope to make yourself appear correct.

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