Tax bill clears Senate hurdle with ease

Tax bill clears Senate hurdle with ease

There are 78 comments on the Kypost.Com story from Dec 13, 2010, titled Tax bill clears Senate hurdle with ease. In it, Kypost.Com reports that:

Far-reaching legislation to avert a Jan. 1 income-tax increase for millions won overwhelming support in a Senate test vote on Monday, backed by an uneasy and unusual alliance between the White House and lawmakers in both parties.

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obvious

Chicago, IL

#1 Dec 13, 2010
carefull .... read what is in it.
P O R K I am certain.
Frank Lee Plain

Sugar Land, TX

#2 Dec 13, 2010
I'm glad that Democrats and Republicans are compromising; unfortunately, the only time they compromise is to increase the deficit.

Since: Oct 08

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#4 Dec 13, 2010
I find it odd that the Democrats would vote for the Bush tax cuts since they have claimed all along that the Clinton tax increases where the reason for the great economy and balanced budgets in the '90's and the bush tax cut were the reason for the failed economy of 2008. If this was true why are they voting to continue with the Bush plan when they said that the Clinton plan did so well. Any libs out there willing to explain this?

Since: Jun 07

Allentown Pa

#5 Dec 13, 2010
Skuttlebutt wrote:
I find it odd that the Democrats would vote for the Bush tax cuts since they have claimed all along that the Clinton tax increases where the reason for the great economy and balanced budgets in the '90's and the bush tax cut were the reason for the failed economy of 2008. If this was true why are they voting to continue with the Bush plan when they said that the Clinton plan did so well. Any libs out there willing to explain this?
Yeah, simple. The GOP was holding millions of unemployed hostage. No extension of unemployment benefits unless millionaires and billionaires got to keep their tax cuts. The GOP also said they would not allow the tax cuts to be extended to the middle class unless millionaires and billionaires got to keep their tax cuts.

So basically, the GOP doesn't care about the deficits. They only claim to. When it comes down to it they only care about the wealthiest and they use the middle class and the poor as pawns to get what they want.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#6 Dec 14, 2010
It wasn't that long ago the democrats said we would have to pay as you go. No new spending without a way to pay for it. The republicans want to balance the budget so they said they wouldn't vote for anything that increased spending. So what do they do? They add another trillion dollars to the deficit. Come 2011 congress is going to vote on the debt ceiling and they will want to cut spending, well where do you think that money is going to come from? Mostly from the middle class. Whenever you hear the words redo the tax code look out folks because the government is coming to take more money away from you. One of the ways is to take away the home mortgage deductions. This is a sneaking way to increase taxes without increasing taxes. Oh! just wait there are more shenanigans on the way.

“President DOWNGRADE..Ha Ha Ha!”

Since: Sep 09

Casselberry, FL

#8 Dec 14, 2010
Skuttlebutt wrote:
I find it odd that the Democrats would vote for the Bush tax cuts since they have claimed all along that the Clinton tax increases where the reason for the great economy and balanced budgets in the '90's and the bush tax cut were the reason for the failed economy of 2008.

If this was true why are they voting to continue with the Bush plan when they said that the Clinton plan did so well. Any libs out there willing to explain this?
This is Exactly like the Jackasses War position. Against it when Bush was president but all for it when Obama is in office. Dishonest Hypocrites.

“President DOWNGRADE..Ha Ha Ha!”

Since: Sep 09

Casselberry, FL

#9 Dec 14, 2010
sofa_king_cool wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, simple. The GOP was holding millions of unemployed hostage. No extension of unemployment benefits unless millionaires and billionaires got to keep their tax cuts. The GOP also said they would not allow the tax cuts to be extended to the middle class unless millionaires and billionaires got to keep their tax cuts.
So basically, the GOP doesn't care about the deficits. They only claim to. When it comes down to it they only care about the wealthiest and they use the middle class and the poor as pawns to get what they want.
You're full of sh1t.

The Jackasses STILL Control Congress and Have for 4 YEARS! If they wanted to pass a tax cut or extension package during that time they certainly could have BUT NO.

Now we have all those economists saying Tax Increases will stall the Economy. Even Bill Clinton is wagging his finger! We all know that increasing deficits will stall the economy, reducing federal receipts which would Increase the Deficits.

So what do we want? FULL EXTENSION of the existing tax rates.

“President DOWNGRADE..Ha Ha Ha!”

Since: Sep 09

Casselberry, FL

#10 Dec 14, 2010
triumphant wrote:
It wasn't that long ago the democrats said we would have to pay as you go. No new spending without a way to pay for it. The republicans want to balance the budget so they said they wouldn't vote for anything that increased spending. So what do they do? They add another trillion dollars to the deficit. Come 2011 congress is going to vote on the debt ceiling and they will want to cut spending, well where do you think that money is going to come from? Mostly from the middle class. Whenever you hear the words redo the tax code look out folks because the government is coming to take more money away from you. One of the ways is to take away the home mortgage deductions. This is a sneaking way to increase taxes without increasing taxes. Oh! just wait there are more shenanigans on the way.
They would get killed in the next election if they took away the mortgage interest deduction for 2 reasons.

1) It's a Huge Tax Increase
2) It would absolutely Kill the Housing Market

The only way to do this is follow the UK's "Across the Board Cuts" so no one is spared and no one gets special treatment.

“President DOWNGRADE..Ha Ha Ha!”

Since: Sep 09

Casselberry, FL

#11 Dec 14, 2010
obvious wrote:
carefull .... read what is in it.
P O R K I am certain.
The Pork must be exposed and removed by the lame duck Congress. Obama needs to take a stand too and demand the end of Earmarks & Pork before he signs anything. No more Kick Backs!

Since: Jun 07

Allentown Pa

#12 Dec 14, 2010
the Messiah wrote:
<quoted text>You're full of sh1t.
The Jackasses STILL Control Congress and Have for 4 YEARS! If they wanted to pass a tax cut or extension package during that time they certainly could have BUT NO.
Now we have all those economists saying Tax Increases will stall the Economy. Even Bill Clinton is wagging his finger! We all know that increasing deficits will stall the economy, reducing federal receipts which would Increase the Deficits.
So what do we want? FULL EXTENSION of the existing tax rates.
You're full of $#!T. You forget the record number of filibusters the GOP used. Blocking any and all votes unless they got their way.
liz

United States

#13 Dec 14, 2010
Did you slobber all over yourself when Old Billy
came out to help your incompedent president to
sell this bill to you idiots. Like old times
wasn't it. Obama didn't have any excuses except
he was making his wife wait. What you will swallow
amazes most americans. It just amazed most of
us and Bill enjoyed it so much. He alone should
have convienced you put the wrong man in office,
but stupid is as stupid does. Bill made hime look
like a first grader. Still want him for 6 more years? Then know what your are. Billy showed
him up to the world.

Since: Oct 08

.

#14 Dec 14, 2010
sofa_king_cool wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, simple. The GOP was holding millions of unemployed hostage. No extension of unemployment benefits unless millionaires and billionaires got to keep their tax cuts. The GOP also said they would not allow the tax cuts to be extended to the middle class unless millionaires and billionaires got to keep their tax cuts.
So basically, the GOP doesn't care about the deficits. They only claim to. When it comes down to it they only care about the wealthiest and they use the middle class and the poor as pawns to get what they want.
How much unemployment should people get if three years is good wouldn't it be better to have extended them to five years or maybe seven.

You didn't explain the reason why, If the Democrats believe Clinton's tax increases led to a boom economy and Bush's tax cuts destroyed the economy, why do democrats want to extend the Bush tax rates?

You can try again and you don't need to use the typical libertard spin.

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Raleigh, NC

#16 Dec 14, 2010
obvious wrote:
carefull .... read what is in it.
P O R K I am certain.
The more I hear about what's in it, the worse it sounds.

There seems to be a lot of "Junk" in that Trunk.

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Raleigh, NC

#17 Dec 14, 2010
The Democrats' short-lived rebellion

By Dana Milbank
Wednesday, December 8, 2010

On Tuesday, the rebellious Democrats gave the impression they could mount a serious fight. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said Obama had signed on to a "morally bankrupt" and "reprehensible" policy. Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) said the deal approached "moral corruptness." Others spoke about getting "screwed" and "taken to the cleaners."

But the angry words were little more than what Republican Sen. Jon Kyl (Ariz.) had derisively referred to last week as "a political catharsis on the Democratic side."

By Wednesday evening, even some Democrats had embraced that theme. "This is a little catharsis going on in there," said Rep. Sam Farr (D-Calif.), midway through Biden's two-hour pummeling in the Capitol basement. "The president's on the defense, the vice president's on the defense."

The administration fought back with a campaign-style persuasion effort. White House officials distributed to each of the Democratic lawmakers a bar graph labeled "What WE Got" and "What THEY Got." (According to the graph, "we" got more than "they.")

The White House communications operation issued a series of press releases during the day with titles such as "Congressman Peters Backs Middle Class Tax Cut Framework," and "Detroit Mayor Backs Middle Class Tax Cut Framework." The Democratic National Committee was reduced to disseminating blog posts and editorials with half-hearted endorsements of the deal: "This morning, I awoke feeling less angry," and "Good enough for now."

The average insurgency, the foreign policy experts say, lasts about ten years. The average liberal rebellion against Obama appears to last about a day. The crumbling began early in the day Wednesday, when Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) issued a statement calling the tax deal "the ultimate stimulus plan."

On Tuesday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid would only say of the compromise: "I'm going to do what I think is right when it all comes down to it." But on Wednesday, after a lengthy session with administration officials Gene Sperling and Jack Lew, Reid told reporters that "they did some explanations I think were helpful to the caucus."

Sen. Kent Conrad, the budget committee chairman, said the closed-door session had changed "the tenor of the discussion" to a "more positive" vibe. And Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) forecast with confidence: "In the end there will be enough Democratic votes in the Senate to join with Republicans to pass this bill."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Raleigh, NC

#18 Dec 14, 2010
This is another problem with this congress and the assembly in general. They attach too much. This should be a simple Tax Extension Bill. Save the adders for another bill.
Uncommon Sense

Phoenix, AZ

#19 Dec 14, 2010
Frank Lee Plain wrote:
I'm glad that Democrats and Republicans are compromising; unfortunately, the only time they compromise is to increase the deficit.
NOT TRUE!

They also are very happy to compromise when a critical decision that impacts dozens of millions of Americans is on the line, and nobody has actually read the bill, and Congress wants to adjourn early for vacation.

They're also notoriously dedicated to compromising on raising their own pay.

Since: Jun 07

Allentown Pa

#20 Dec 14, 2010
Skuttlebutt wrote:
<quoted text>
How much unemployment should people get if three years is good wouldn't it be better to have extended them to five years or maybe seven.
You didn't explain the reason why, If the Democrats believe Clinton's tax increases led to a boom economy and Bush's tax cuts destroyed the economy, why do democrats want to extend the Bush tax rates?
You can try again and you don't need to use the typical libertard spin.
Clinton's tax increases didn't hurt the economy as many suggest would happen now, but what it did do was cut the deficit and led to a surplus. Bush's tax cuts didn't create a boom, it may not have caused the collapse, but it didn't help. What it did do was created larger deficits. Now who do they want to cut spending on? Those that can least afford to be cut while keeping tax cuts for those that can afford to pay 3% more.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#21 Dec 14, 2010
the Messiah wrote:
<quoted text>
They would get killed in the next election if they took away the mortgage interest deduction for 2 reasons.
1) It's a Huge Tax Increase
2) It would absolutely Kill the Housing Market
The only way to do this is follow the UK's "Across the Board Cuts" so no one is spared and no one gets special treatment.
That was one of the proposals of the debt commission and they supposedly did cut spending across the board.
Will

Columbus, OH

#22 Dec 14, 2010
It stinks as a compromise. Mostly just Obama and the Dems caving to Republican special interests.

Continued tax cuts for the wealthy...vastly increased exemptions for the estate tax...the only thing which stinks more than this bill is Democratic Party cowardice.

COWARDICE.
Will

Columbus, OH

#23 Dec 14, 2010
liz wrote:
Did you slobber all over yourself when Old Billy
came out to help your incompedent president to
sell this bill to you idiots. Like old times
wasn't it. Obama didn't have any excuses except
he was making his wife wait. What you will swallow
amazes most americans. It just amazed most of
us and Bill enjoyed it so much. He alone should
have convienced you put the wrong man in office,
but stupid is as stupid does. Bill made hime look
like a first grader. Still want him for 6 more years? Then know what your are. Billy showed
him up to the world.
What's the alternative? Wife of Bill? Who do the Repubs have? Huck-a-buck? Jindal the Obscure? Silly Sarah the Moose Girl?

This country is BEREFT of leadership. Period.

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