White House's Deficit Test: Finding a Bipartisan Bloc

There are 16 comments on the The Wall Street Journal story from Nov 18, 2012, titled White House's Deficit Test: Finding a Bipartisan Bloc. In it, The Wall Street Journal reports that:

President Barack Obama, accompanied by House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, speaks to reporters in the Roosevelt Room of the White House in Washington, Friday, Nov.

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xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#65 Nov 21, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Romney won every state in the South and on the Plains, in not one of the states Romeny won is there a median income above $21,000 a year per capita.
Review if you will, the difference in incomes in the states like Miss, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia, Utah, Montana, and Louisiana, all States Romney won, and the States in the Northeast that Obama won.
Bill O'Reily is an idiot and paid to lead you astray, he's part of the Stooge Tube Entertainment Network.
http://www.infozine.com/news/stories/op/stori...
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#66 Nov 21, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
You have a story to tell your kids, you lived through the Bush Depression..... A Failed President is one that took a booming economy and collapsed it in 8 years. We had 4% unemployment went Bush took the keys to the White House from Bill Clinton. Bush managed to turn 4% into 7.8% unemployment, and a surplus into a bankrupt nation in debt to the Chinese.
did you just begin to start paying attention to politics?
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I was going to ask you the same question. I will also tell my grandchildren how Bush turned the economy around in spite of the worst attack on American soil in our history. When they ask what President had the highest amount of government dependents in my lifetime, I can tell them the most failed President in our lifetime--DumBama. The same answer for the most people in poverty.

When they ask about the housing bubble and burst, I can look them in the eye and tell them it was Democrats who created the bubble by instituting 0% down on home loans with little or no credit check. I can explain to them how lowlifes infiltrated good neighborhoods turning them into war zone ghettos costing taxpayers billions of dollars in lost property values and closed businesses. I will further explain how it was Republicans who tried to put the brakes on Fanny and Freddy, only to be defeated by Democrats.
responder

Columbus, OH

#67 Nov 21, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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I'm citing you economics but you refuse to pay attention. Businesses don't push anything on the consumer. The consumer presses business. Business responds to consumer demands.
Wal-Mart is not number one because they insist on pushing cheap foreign products, Wal-Mart is number one because they met the demand of their customers.
The reason we purchase cheap products is because there are so many things we can purchase today than let's say 30 years ago. Computers, cell phones, DVD players, video games, big screen televisions, computer programs, cable or satellite television.
There is only so much disposable income the average American has. So in order to purchase everything you want, it has to be cheap.
Until Americans are willing to work for less money, or are willing to pay much more for American made products, we will continue to live this dilemma. Foreign made products are not going to go away even if you closed down every Wal-Mart in the country.
You've "cited" nothing, so please don't make false claims. You've merely expressed your largely biased, partisan opinions of how economics works.

You also failed to read my post, in which I said:

"One, the loss of jobs and wages, which has sunk consumer spending to lower levels and created more demand for cheap goods."

Sure people like cheaper goods, and that's driven the market in imports to some extent. But loss of manufacturing and other high-paying jobs AND the economic disruptions, especially the most recent and massive recession, we've been through have also driven lower-priced goods and overseas manufacturing. AS has the desire of American corporations to simply pad their profit margins and boost their stock prices and payoffs to shareholders.

YOU want to put the blame on American workers instead of where it belongs - on Wall St. and their lackeys in BOTH parties, particularly the GOP. as well as on companies like Wal-Mart who cater to and encourage foreign manufacture of goods.

Incidentally, no one said the manufacture of foreign goods was "going away" either, so you can also abandon THAT delusion.
responder

Columbus, OH

#68 Nov 21, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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I was going to ask you the same question. I will also tell my grandchildren how Bush turned the economy around in spite of the worst attack on American soil in our history. When they ask what President had the highest amount of government dependents in my lifetime, I can tell them the most failed President in our lifetime--DumBama. The same answer for the most people in poverty.
..blah, blah....
Lying to your grandchildren will be more difficult as the Internet expands and ever more sources of factual information come online. Your grandchildren will assume, from your silly name for Mr. Obama, that you've gone senile - and they'll likely be right, if you haven't done so already.

:)
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#69 Nov 21, 2012
responder wrote:
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You've "cited" nothing, so please don't make false claims. You've merely expressed your largely biased, partisan opinions of how economics works.
You also failed to read my post, in which I said:
"One, the loss of jobs and wages, which has sunk consumer spending to lower levels and created more demand for cheap goods."
Sure people like cheaper goods, and that's driven the market in imports to some extent. But loss of manufacturing and other high-paying jobs AND the economic disruptions, especially the most recent and massive recession, we've been through have also driven lower-priced goods and overseas manufacturing. AS has the desire of American corporations to simply pad their profit margins and boost their stock prices and payoffs to shareholders.
YOU want to put the blame on American workers instead of where it belongs - on Wall St. and their lackeys in BOTH parties, particularly the GOP. as well as on companies like Wal-Mart who cater to and encourage foreign manufacture of goods.
Incidentally, no one said the manufacture of foreign goods was "going away" either, so you can also abandon THAT delusion.
You're catching on..... a little bit.

Do you really believe that if every American earned $10,000 or more per year, they would shop somewhere else? Don't kid yourself. Go to a Wal-Mart sometime and look at the vehicles in the parking lot. These are not poor people in many cases. You will find an array of automobiles and trucks there.

Yes, companies move out to improve profits. Is that such a bad thing? Companies rely on investors, that's why they are in the market in the first place.

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/william...
responder

Columbus, OH

#70 Nov 21, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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You're catching on..... a little bit.
Do you really believe that if every American earned $10,000 or more per year, they would shop somewhere else? Don't kid yourself. Go to a Wal-Mart sometime and look at the vehicles in the parking lot. These are not poor people in many cases. You will find an array of automobiles and trucks there.
Yes, companies move out to improve profits. Is that such a bad thing? Companies rely on investors, that's why they are in the market in the first place.
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/william...
"Is that such a bad thing?"

Jesus...how stupid can you possibly be?

If companies move American jobs overseas purely for the sake of making bigger profits....and Americans lose jobs and can't afford anything but cheap, foreign goods...and our balance of trade drops off as a result...

Do you see where I'm going, or are you really this stupid?
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#71 Nov 21, 2012
Sounds like you need a 1. job 2. to move out of the Cleveland Ghettos.

Cheap rent districts often offer a reduced standard of living. Bush never turned around the economy he inherited a 4% Unemployment Rate, and the Rate continued to increase under his watch until he ultimately collapsed the American economy.

You wouldn't want to have to lie to your grand children to make you self look good, would you? But then again you live in Cleveland, the rust bucket of the universe.
xxxrayted wrote:
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I was going to ask you the same question. I will also tell my grandchildren how Bush turned the economy around in spite of the worst attack on American soil in our history. When they ask what President had the highest amount of government dependents in my lifetime, I can tell them the most failed President in our lifetime--DumBama. The same answer for the most people in poverty.
When they ask about the housing bubble and burst, I can look them in the eye and tell them it was Democrats who created the bubble by instituting 0% down on home loans with little or no credit check. I can explain to them how lowlifes infiltrated good neighborhoods turning them into war zone ghettos costing taxpayers billions of dollars in lost property values and closed businesses. I will further explain how it was Republicans who tried to put the brakes on Fanny and Freddy, only to be defeated by Democrats.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#72 Nov 21, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
Romney won the poorest states with the poorest individual, of the states that where not contested, Georgia, Tennessee, West Virginia, Kentucky, Alabama, Mississippi, by Obama the median income isn't even $19,000 a year.

That's ridiculous to assume the information contained in that link given those facts from the election. Romney hands down won every State, West of Illinois, and South of Ohio, clustered East of California down into the Gulf of Mexico, In every single State of the described, 4 out of 10 in the working population pay no Federal Income Taxes, and at Tax Time receive Poverty Payments disguised as Federal Income Tax returns.

That geographical area I described is the absolute heart beat of the Romney supporters, where the Appalachian and Ozark Mountain Region is located. You are talking areas where people eat road kill.

Where did you get that wayward information?

Compare that to Obama won 8 of the top wealthiest counties in America, including Counties where Romney owns Estates, even Romney's rich neighbors Supported President Obama over Romney.

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#74 Nov 21, 2012
conservative crapola wrote:
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Two weeks and lejimcrow continues to sob, uncontrollably.
hahahahahahahahahaha
Obama to america........it's working....

HAPPY THANKSGIVING: UNIONS SHUT DOWN TRAFFIC TO LAX...

Record Number of Americans Will Use Food Stamps For Holiday...

FOOD PANTRY SEES 400% INCREASE IN DEMAND...
conservative crapola

Whitehall, PA

#75 Nov 21, 2012
Le Jimbo wrote:
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lejimcrow cry-a-thon: Day 15.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#76 Nov 21, 2012
responder wrote:
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"Is that such a bad thing?"
Jesus...how stupid can you possibly be?
If companies move American jobs overseas purely for the sake of making bigger profits....and Americans lose jobs and can't afford anything but cheap, foreign goods...and our balance of trade drops off as a result...
Do you see where I'm going, or are you really this stupid?
CEO's are obligated to make the largest profit for the company they can. If you are making widgets and selling them for $10.00 each, but your competitor moved to India and can sell the same widgets for $6.00, how do you compete? You can't. You have two choices: go out of business and join your workers in the unemployment line, or head for higher grounds and stay afloat.

The stock market is not for the wealthy anymore. Many of us have our retirement accounts in the market. Little people play the market as well for their own personal finances. When a company produces larger profits, it makes a stronger market.

Until Americans adopt a policy of buying American only. that's when you will see stores selling mostly American made products. I don't think that will ever happen, but if it did, we would be on the right path again.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#77 Nov 21, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Sounds like you need a 1. job 2. to move out of the Cleveland Ghettos.
Cheap rent districts often offer a reduced standard of living. Bush never turned around the economy he inherited a 4% Unemployment Rate, and the Rate continued to increase under his watch until he ultimately collapsed the American economy.
You wouldn't want to have to lie to your grand children to make you self look good, would you? But then again you live in Cleveland, the rust bucket of the universe.
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Yes it is, Cleveland is a rust bucket. It's been under pure Democrat leadership for decades now. Cleveland is in Cuyahoga County which is also run by Democrats; half of which are in prison now.

Rents stay moderate to high when the neighborhood is a safe place to live. Government ruins all that. I remember reading an article in the Cleveland Plain Dealer years ago. It was about HUD and how they were targeting suburban areas for destruction. Then after Clinton's minion changed the mortgage laws so that any lowlife could get a home in the suburbs, that ruined a lot of nice places.

When government moves in lowlifes with the idiotic idea that putting people in nice areas will change them, they fail and only ruin a city or neighborhood. Lowlifes don't change because their environment is different, they look at the area as fresh meat, virgin territory. If you take 3/4 cup of fresh wholesome milk, and mix that with 1/4 cup of stale sour milk, you only produce one thing: a cup of bad milk.

First the crime starts, and businesses are forced to close up because of robberies. Then the schools go because people with civilized children don't want their children to be involved in knife fights or gang violence. People flee in hopes they can get something for their house before it becomes worthless. Then government moves in even more lowlifes, more stores close, more violence. Gunfire all the time.

It all starts with government--not rental units. Rental units where I live have been here since before I was born. Never had a problem with them until government got involved.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#78 Nov 21, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
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We got a whiff of the Conservatives trying desperately to purchase democracy this election cycle,
Eric, that's not quite accurate.

A better description would be: "We saw what its like when Republicans desperately lined up to purchase the opportunity to gangbang Democracy this election cycle.

woof
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#79 Nov 21, 2012
Horse Manure, Cleveland has always been home to lowlifes, I remember when the Mafia used to run Cleveland, as they still do I'm sure. Who do you think you're talking with.

Cleveland and the out skirts has always been a dangerous place to reside and run by criminals from east to west.

What year was that, there were more than 30 Mafia related bombings and open warfare on the Streets through Cleveland and the surrounding area.

Don't paint Cleveland as some basin of innocence. Cleveland has been dirty as Chicago and worse than New York and Phila combined when it comes to crime and political corruption James Traficant just got out on a racketeering charge.

Yep you're from Cleveland, you lie like a rug, you guys are creatures of habit.
xxxrayted wrote:
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Yes it is, Cleveland is a rust bucket. It's been under pure Democrat leadership for decades now. Cleveland is in Cuyahoga County which is also run by Democrats; half of which are in prison now.
Rents stay moderate to high when the neighborhood is a safe place to live. Government ruins all that. I remember reading an article in the Cleveland Plain Dealer years ago. It was about HUD and how they were targeting suburban areas for destruction. Then after Clinton's minion changed the mortgage laws so that any lowlife could get a home in the suburbs, that ruined a lot of nice places.
When government moves in lowlifes with the idiotic idea that putting people in nice areas will change them, they fail and only ruin a city or neighborhood. Lowlifes don't change because their environment is different, they look at the area as fresh meat, virgin territory. If you take 3/4 cup of fresh wholesome milk, and mix that with 1/4 cup of stale sour milk, you only produce one thing: a cup of bad milk.
First the crime starts, and businesses are forced to close up because of robberies. Then the schools go because people with civilized children don't want their children to be involved in knife fights or gang violence. People flee in hopes they can get something for their house before it becomes worthless. Then government moves in even more lowlifes, more stores close, more violence. Gunfire all the time.
It all starts with government--not rental units. Rental units where I live have been here since before I was born. Never had a problem with them until government got involved.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#80 Nov 21, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Horse Manure, Cleveland has always been home to lowlifes, I remember when the Mafia used to run Cleveland, as they still do I'm sure. Who do you think you're talking with.
Cleveland and the out skirts has always been a dangerous place to reside and run by criminals from east to west.
What year was that, there were more than 30 Mafia related bombings and open warfare on the Streets through Cleveland and the surrounding area.
Don't paint Cleveland as some basin of innocence. Cleveland has been dirty as Chicago and worse than New York and Phila combined when it comes to crime and political corruption James Traficant just got out on a racketeering charge.
Yep you're from Cleveland, you lie like a rug, you guys are creatures of habit.
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Your comment shows you know nothing of this city.
frogmann

Pittsburgh, PA

#81 Nov 23, 2012
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