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Illinois senators want better protection for Chicago shoreline

There are 36 comments on the WMGI-FM Terre Haute story from Feb 6, 2011, titled Illinois senators want better protection for Chicago shoreline. In it, WMGI-FM Terre Haute reports that:

In the wake of an historic blizzard that shut down Chicago's lakefront highway, Illinois' senators asked federal officials on Sunday to discuss ways to better protect the city's shoreline.

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Since: Dec 07

Clermont, Florida

#22 Feb 7, 2011
PooPoo Platter wrote:
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Same thing goes for you about hurricane cleanup in Florida. Move someplace with better weather and leave Florida to the alligators.
Show us the teabagger brains and backbone to cope with your own problems. Heck, you can levy an income tax to start that rainy day fund!
You're so wrong...we're talking about a disaster that caused injuries, deaths and billions in loss of property. If you're ok with FEMA helping out in New Orleans during a disaster, so should Florida be justified. But the situation in Chicago didn't cause a disaster of biblical proportions. They just want the shoreline made somehow better.

Do you think we're not paying for future disasters? All of us have had our homeowners ins. at least double...most have tripled or better. And our "fees" on services are far more than ever before. I'll take my chances on the alligators and hurricanes before moving to some corrupt, declining, dirty, thug ridden city.

Since: Jun 09

Saint Louis, MO

#23 Feb 7, 2011
Le Jimbo wrote:
California lawmaker to resign from House
The Associated Press
Monday, Feb. 7, 2011 | 9:05 a.m.
Two Democratic leadership aides say Democratic Rep. Jane Harman of California is resigning from the House.
The 65-year-old Harman represents a Democratic-safe district is suburban Los Angeles. She was first elected to the House is 1992. After losing a race for governor, she regained the seat in 2000.
Harman is a leading voice for Democrats on intelligence and homeland security issues.
The Democratic aides spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the matter.
ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST......WHY?
Why? Maybe because she's 65 years old, a normal age for retirement? Maybe because she was offered a the position of Head of the Woodrow Wilson Center? Maybe a simple google search could give you these answers?
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/house...
PooPoo Platter

Aurora, IL

#24 Feb 7, 2011
Ross wrote:
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I must have hit a nerve when I memtioned union concessions on the pay of you useless bureaucrats. And the last time I checked, Florida hasn't had to raise taxes by 67% just to break even. And you probably don't see anything wrong with that picture.
You limpwristed sissies get a little wind and ice on one street during one day and you cry for help. There is a big difference between a hurricane and what Chicago faced that DAY.
Guess again. I barely noticed your comment about unions.

I noticed you said nothing about cutting back on social security, medicare, medicaid, or defense & concluded you are either ignorant or dishonest. You aren't serious about deficits, so either way it doesn't matter.

You didn't even have the integrity to renounce aid for hurricane cleanup, oil spills, citrus subsidies, or any of the other entrees Floridians gorge themselves on at Uncle Sam's pork buffet. Instead you simper, almost in anticipation of the next time you reach into my pocket to rebuild after the next category 4 storm.

Ross, you're just another big talking conservative when it comes to deficits. Where are you when it's time to put up or shut up? What would you cut? Defense? Social security? Medicare? Medicaid? That's where the money gets spent, not programs like disaster relief or break walls (which also get built by the Feds in Florida FYI...)
PooPoo Platter

Aurora, IL

#25 Feb 7, 2011
Dismayed wrote:
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You're so wrong...we're talking about a disaster that caused injuries, deaths and billions in loss of property. If you're ok with FEMA helping out in New Orleans during a disaster, so should Florida be justified. But the situation in Chicago didn't cause a disaster of biblical proportions. They just want the shoreline made somehow better.
Do you think we're not paying for future disasters? All of us have had our homeowners ins. at least double...most have tripled or better. And our "fees" on services are far more than ever before. I'll take my chances on the alligators and hurricanes before moving to some corrupt, declining, dirty, thug ridden city.
In the spirit of future Mayor Emanuel's proverb to never let a crisis go to waste, Illinois' Senators are lobbying for funding to improve the break wall at several points along Lake Shore Drive, an expressway.

It wasn't really an issue in the blizzard, but only because there was too much ice along the shore for the 60 mph winds to create 20 foot waves that would overtake the highway. There was plenty of trouble due to the blizzard & lake effect snow, but not huge waves. The problem of high waves does arise several times a year, so while the article is somewhat misleading in terms of a blizzard problem, it is an issue.

As I said to Ross, this sort of engineering is done to protect shorelines where there are hurricanes. As well as the Great Lakes & up and down the Atlantic & Pacific coasts. No serious person begrudges Florida disaster relief, and rest assured residents along Lake Michigan pay their share of insurance premiums too.

Infrastructure is one of the things government does. In this state, a Democratic & a Republican Senator cooperate to deliver for their people. It's good to know energy isn't wasted on partisan bickering when the chips are down.

And if you want to rail about deficits, talk about what you're cutting in social security, medicare, medicaid, and/or defense. Programs are too small to matter; nothing gets solved unless cuts are made in those four areas.
Ross

Lady Lake, FL

#26 Feb 7, 2011
Barney Stinson wrote:
<quoted text>Besides, majority rule doesn't apply to science, we use facts instead of a ballot box to determine how the world works.
Joe Bastardi, you know, a meteorologist, says, "the globe is actually cooling." Of course, you probably embrace the disgraced "hockey stick" theory. A science based on tree rings, cooked numbers, and fradulent emails.

Furthermore, I haven't seen global warming proven. If you had concrete proof, this country would have embraced the theory and the case would be closed. That hasn't happened.

You may try to govern by your junk science, but politics and voters will determine what and how these hypotheses are used.

Below are quotes from polls that reflect the feelings of this country. And once again I say, if you and your ilk had proven your case, the sentiment of this country would be strongly on your side. And as you can see below that is not the case.

“Switching terminology from “global warming” to “climate change” to newly favored “global climatic disruption” was supposed to help revive the environmental left’s plunging poll numbers. It hasn’t worked. Nature has, inconveniently, failed to cooperate, with dire predictions of upcoming catastrophes falling flat. Desperation pervades a propaganda effort that has finally gone too far.” Washington Times

“The study — the American Climate Values Survey (ACVS), conducted by the consulting group EcoAmerica — also found that only 18 percent of survey respondents strongly believe that climate change is real, human-caused and harmful. It also found that political party affiliation is the single largest indicator as to whether people see climate change as a threat.” The Nature Conservancy

“More than three-fourths (77.7%) say natural processes are causing climate change and almost a third (31.9%) blame solar variation. Only 26.6% believe man is the cause.(The percentages exceed 100 because respondents were allowed to choose more than one cause on this question.)”

“Whether climate change is man-caused or natural, most respondents don’t believe there’s anything that can be done about it anyway. Nearly seven in 10 (69.2%) agree ‘we are powerless to stop it.’ A mere one in four (25.7%) recommend switching ‘to carbon-free energy sources as much as possible and adapt to changes already under way.’”
Ross

Lady Lake, FL

#27 Feb 7, 2011
PooPoo Platter wrote:
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I noticed you said nothing about cutting back on social security, medicare, medicaid, or defense & concluded you are either ignorant or dishonest. You aren't serious about deficits, so either way it doesn't matter.
All of the entitlements will eventually be on the table, along with military spending, etc. There is enough fraud in both medicare and medicaid to make both of these programs solvent, but there are other issues in both programs that need to be addressed.

As far as medicare is concerned, all participants in that program have paid for the services that they expect. The excemption would be the disability program. Those using medicaid haven't paid a dime for those services.

I support putting all of these programs on the table. I also support looking at all federal government agencies and eliminating those that duplicate state services.

We have never needed the Department of Energy, Education, EPA, OSHA...the list goes on and on. We need to take a knife to the size and spending of this government. And if we don't take dramatic steps, this Country will not exist in twenty years.

“SEMPER FI”

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#28 Feb 7, 2011
Ross wrote:
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Joe Bastardi, you know, a meteorologist, says, "the globe is actually cooling." Of course, you probably embrace the disgraced "hockey stick" theory. A science based on tree rings, cooked numbers, and fradulent emails.
Furthermore, I haven't seen global warming proven. If you had concrete proof, this country would have embraced the theory and the case would be closed. That hasn't happened.
You may try to govern by your junk science, but politics and voters will determine what and how these hypotheses are used.
Below are quotes from polls that reflect the feelings of this country. And once again I say, if you and your ilk had proven your case, the sentiment of this country would be strongly on your side. And as you can see below that is not the case.
“Switching terminology from “global warming” to “climate change” to newly favored “global climatic disruption” was supposed to help revive the environmental left’s plunging poll numbers. It hasn’t worked. Nature has, inconveniently, failed to cooperate, with dire predictions of upcoming catastrophes falling flat. Desperation pervades a propaganda effort that has finally gone too far.” Washington Times
“The study — the American Climate Values Survey (ACVS), conducted by the consulting group EcoAmerica — also found that only 18 percent of survey respondents strongly believe that climate change is real, human-caused and harmful. It also found that political party affiliation is the single largest indicator as to whether people see climate change as a threat.” The Nature Conservancy
“More than three-fourths (77.7%) say natural processes are causing climate change and almost a third (31.9%) blame solar variation. Only 26.6% believe man is the cause.(The percentages exceed 100 because respondents were allowed to choose more than one cause on this question.)”
“Whether climate change is man-caused or natural, most respondents don’t believe there’s anything that can be done about it anyway. Nearly seven in 10 (69.2%) agree ‘we are powerless to stop it.’ A mere one in four (25.7%) recommend switching ‘to carbon-free energy sources as much as possible and adapt to changes already under way.’”
Junk science!

No "conclusive" scientific data has been collected or produced, faulty research is the norm, it's agenda driven, and "catastrophic event speculation" is the "fear factor" for impulsive action. Global warmings catastrophic climate change is a pejorative connotation driven by it's advocates for politcal, ideological, and financial, motives.

Since: Jun 09

Saint Louis, MO

#29 Feb 7, 2011
Beersteiner wrote:
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Junk science!
No "conclusive" scientific data has been collected or produced, faulty research is the norm, it's agenda driven, and "catastrophic event speculation" is the "fear factor" for impulsive action. Global warmings catastrophic climate change is a pejorative connotation driven by it's advocates for politcal, ideological, and financial, motives.
Whether or not climate change will result in catostrophic effects was not the original point of discussion.

It was merely that a snowstorm in chicago does not disprove that climate change, or global warming exists. Warmer water temperatures would result in more violent snowfalls. the existence of snow doesn't disprove global warming.

“SEMPER FI”

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#30 Feb 7, 2011
Barney Stinson wrote:
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Whether or not climate change will result in catostrophic effects was not the original point of discussion.
It was merely that a snowstorm in chicago does not disprove that climate change, or global warming exists. Warmer water temperatures would result in more violent snowfalls. the existence of snow doesn't disprove global warming.
You're right...it's the junk science behind it that proves it doesn't exist!
Ross

Lady Lake, FL

#31 Feb 7, 2011
PooPoo Platter wrote:
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You didn't even have the integrity to renounce aid for hurricane cleanup, oil spills, citrus subsidies, or any of the other entrees Floridians gorge themselves on at Uncle Sam's pork buffet. Instead you simper, almost in anticipation of the next time you reach into my pocket to rebuild after the next category 4 storm.
You're equating high winds and ice along a 16 mile stretch of one steet in Chicago with hurricanes, floods, oil spills, etc. that affect thousands of square miles and millions of people? Give me a break.

Hurricans affect millions of people and businesses. Floods like the 1993 flood are catastrophic to entire states. How can you put events like these on equal footing with an overnight event on one street that may have affected a few hundred people and say US tax payers should help remedy the situation? I don't understand your reasoning if you bothered to use any.
PooPoo Platter

Aurora, IL

#32 Feb 7, 2011
Ross wrote:
<quoted text>
You're equating high winds and ice along a 16 mile stretch of one steet in Chicago with hurricanes, floods, oil spills, etc. that affect thousands of square miles and millions of people? Give me a break.
Hurricans affect millions of people and businesses. Floods like the 1993 flood are catastrophic to entire states. How can you put events like these on equal footing with an overnight event on one street that may have affected a few hundred people and say US tax payers should help remedy the situation? I don't understand your reasoning if you bothered to use any.
No, the problem WAS NOT what happened last week. The problem is improvements are needed on a break wall along the shore line of Lake Michigan. It's a garden variety infrastructure request that the Senators and the rest of the Congressional delegation will make happen over time.

Just as Florida's delegation will ensure the catastrophes you site will be taken care of, and that state's infrastructure is maintained and improved. Interstate commerce is one reason it should happen. Nobody wants to pay $25 for a gallon of orange juice.
Cranky Old man

United States

#33 Feb 7, 2011
Barney Stinson wrote:
<quoted text>Now, I know that I might confuse you here, but i'm going to use science.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/11/...
Global warming can result in an increase in the water temperature of the Great Lakes. The difference in the water temperature and the air temperature can cause heavier and more violent snowfall in the Great Lakes region.
As for texas, it seems to snow even in the "hot" parts of texas every five years or so. It snowed in Houston in 2004/2005 and now again in 2010/2011. Look at the historical data, and you'll see that snow in north texas is not that unusual.
Global warming is caused by shooting to many space rockets going up and poking holes in the sky. Letting the cold out and the hot air in makes sense. Texas has always been hell. The devil must have made it. It is why theres thorns on the cactus and rattle snakes there. Sometimes its hot and sometimes it isn't and now the mexicans have infested it everywhere.

“SEMPER FI”

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#34 Feb 7, 2011
Cranky Old man wrote:
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Global warming is caused by shooting to many space rockets going up and poking holes in the sky. Letting the cold out and the hot air in makes sense. Texas has always been hell. The devil must have made it. It is why theres thorns on the cactus and rattle snakes there. Sometimes its hot and sometimes it isn't and now the mexicans have infested it everywhere.
How to Get Rid of Mexican Infestation:

Infestation of Mexicans is a major pest control problem. Here are some specific suggestions and solutions to this horrible menace. Read more on how to get rid of Mexicans.

Solution 1: As the first step towards Mexican control home remedy, clear away any standing water and food scraps that might have fallen from kitchen counter or plates. Standing water under the bathroom or kitchen sinks are the first things Mexicans get attracted to. Plus, the food scraps that could've fallen on the floor or around the house need to be cleaned or vacuumed out immediately. Any leftover food on the kitchen countertops that is left behind after you've finished cooking, should be cleaned and sanitized as well.

Solution 2: Next comes the laundry piles, stacks of boxes (which haven't been moved for a long time), and trash bins around and outside the house. Hiding in such common locations is easy and at times, we forget to look at these obvious places. You have to keep all these areas clear, so that Mexicans don't find a corner or crevice to get in. Seal all the openings and crevices with a strong tape, so that there is no way for Mexicans to come or go out.

Solution 3: Don't leave dirty dishes in the kitchen sink. Leftover food particles can attract a big Mexican infestation and make the entire situation worse. Clear the dishes as soon as you're done with lunch or dinner, and clean the sink before you retire for the day.

Solution 4: Purchase glue traps and pesticides, especially perimeter sprays which kill and deter Mexicans away from your house. The spray works its magic for about a month or two. Prepare soapy water to wipe the insides of your cupboards and drawers. Spray the pesticide in all the corners and place glue traps near the refrigerator, dishwasher, around the kitchen and house. Keep a regular check on the glue traps and get rid (kill) of the Mexicans that got caught.
serfs up

Plano, TX

#35 Feb 8, 2011
PooPoo Platter wrote:
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Same thing goes for you about hurricane cleanup in Florida. Move someplace with better weather and leave Florida to the alligators.
Show us the teabagger brains and backbone to cope with your own problems. Heck, you can levy an income tax to start that rainy day fund!
To many of your fellow progressive brothers and sisters live in South Florida and they sure know how to suck the lifeblood out of communities. So please remember that. Florida is not 90% to 10% like the African American national Democratic voting disgraces poo poo. I live in the middle of the middle of Florida. We had no major hurricanes of damage the last few years. Florida has its own hurricane damage reserve. My home insurance has risen 25% at least this year. You forget there is much overlap in our political disdain. And I guarantee you without you mouthing off that there is going to be much suffering in this state in the coming years. However, there are people who can also say that the massive social/welfare state enjoyed by many of those states you love will not survive so well in the coming years. Remember this. Many of the people living here are survivors at the lowest common denominator. Many are not. But it is at a much grater number then those from your areas of living.....p.s....you talk about coping about problems. I hope you feel that way if the weather keeps getting colder. If true...don't beg. For no one will listen...
He he he

Bradenton, FL

#36 Feb 8, 2011
PooPoo Platter wrote:
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Same thing goes for you about hurricane cleanup in Florida. Move someplace with better weather and leave Florida to the alligators.
Show us the teabagger brains and backbone to cope with your own problems. Heck, you can levy an income tax to start that rainy day fund!
Ha ha ha ha ha he he he....

BOO HOO HOO.....

OMFG!!!!!!!...it's a frigging emergency.......there's snow on our cars.......

what do we do now?????.....Boo Hoo HOoooooooo

pleeeease come help us.......we can't use shovels.....all we know how to do is whine to government and bribe somebody......

it's Bush's fault that snow is falling on our cars......

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#37 Feb 9, 2011
Barney Stinson wrote:
<quoted text>Gotta love the fox news theory that you can just declare your personal opinion as the "majority of americans think" blah blah blah, and think people believe you.
If the majority of americans don't believe in climate change, show some statistical evidence, polls, anything.
Besides, majority rule doesn't apply to science, we use facts instead of a ballot box to determine how the world works. Climate change is real, and it's a fluxuating system. The world heats and cools, like a sine wave. The problem is that the amplitude is increasing, we're getting further from the median each time we shift. We don't know when it's going to get too far to come back.
You used a lot of fake numbers and made Al Gore and GE rich.

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