Bid to Limit Tax Cuts to Middle Class...

Bid to Limit Tax Cuts to Middle Class and Poor Fails in Senate

There are 328 comments on the www.truth-out.org story from Dec 4, 2010, titled Bid to Limit Tax Cuts to Middle Class and Poor Fails in Senate. In it, www.truth-out.org reports that:

The Senate on Saturday blocked and most likely doomed efforts to extend Bush-era tax cuts only for the middle class and the poor but not the very rich.

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Since: May 08

Deltona Fla

#326 Dec 13, 2010
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>The card is still active moron, nice try at lie of the day..........you just missed first prize.
How do you know that card number is still active. Did you hack into the Social Security computer. How do you know even know what Obama's Social Security number is? Did Whorey Traits tell you. We have already seen how actuate she is. Did you see the report that claimed the number Obama is using is fraudulent because it was originally issued in 1890 something. Are buying into that BS also? Are you also subscribing to the theory that the Government (headed by Bush at the time) staged and committed the 911 atrocity?

“I laugh at Robo Posters”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#327 Dec 13, 2010
swampmudd wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know that card number is still active. Did you hack into the Social Security computer. How do you know even know what Obama's Social Security number is? Did Whorey Traits tell you. We have already seen how actuate she is. Did you see the report that claimed the number Obama is using is fraudulent because it was originally issued in 1890 something. Are buying into that BS also? Are you also subscribing to the theory that the Government (headed by Bush at the time) staged and committed the 911 atrocity?
Well it is reported that he has or has had 11 different numbers.........just saying.

“I laugh at Robo Posters”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#328 Dec 13, 2010
anneutral wrote:
<quoted text>
hahahahahahhahahaha
(it's funny because it's true)
Good, since you like truth........

By LARRY O'DELL, Associated Press Larry O'dell, Associated Press – 12 mins ago
RICHMOND, Va.– A federal judge in Virginia has declared the Obama administration's health care reform law unconstitutional.

U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson is the first judge to rule against the law, which has been upheld by two others in Virginia and Michigan.

Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli filed the lawsuit challenging the law's requirement that citizens buy health insurance or pay a penalty starting in 2014.

He argues the federal government doesn't have the constitutional authority to impose the requirement.

Other lawsuits are pending, including one filed by 20 states in a Florida court. Virginia is not part of that lawsuit.

Since: May 08

Deltona Fla

#329 Dec 13, 2010
Paul Revere wrote:
I am for tax breaks evenly for everyone. The problem is the govt spends more and if you give them a nickel additional they will spend it. Just cut the govt programs and number of employees! Also if you really want to solve the deficit institute a nationwide deficit sales tax of 5%. All proceeds from this must go towards decreasing the deficit. This way everyone can help lower and finally get rid of it! The great thing about this tax is that it is essentially voluntary and all Americans can have a hand in reducing or eliminating it!
Just in the interest of clarity the deficit is the overage on the yearly budget.(spending more then what was collected) The debt is the total amount we owe. I believe you are referring to the debt. We need to first state what the problem is before we can find a solution. Put simply, the problem is we need to find money to pay down the debt so who do we get the money from. In America we have (or had) three basic economic groups. The poor, the middle class, and the rich. The poor don’t have any money. That is why they are called the poor. Getting money from them is a waste of time because they don’t have any. The middle class is quickly disappearing and mostly joining the poor. They have very little extra money and if you take any more from them they will be poor. The rich have a surplus of money. More then they need. That is why they are called rich. If you realistically want to get more money who do you get it from, the guys with no money, the guys with almost no money or the guys with lots of extra money?

“SEMPER FI”

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#330 Dec 13, 2010
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Good, since you like truth........
By LARRY O'DELL, Associated Press Larry O'dell, Associated Press – 12 mins ago
RICHMOND, Va.– A federal judge in Virginia has declared the Obama administration's health care reform law unconstitutional.
U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson is the first judge to rule against the law, which has been upheld by two others in Virginia and Michigan.
Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli filed the lawsuit challenging the law's requirement that citizens buy health insurance or pay a penalty starting in 2014.
He argues the federal government doesn't have the constitutional authority to impose the requirement.
Other lawsuits are pending, including one filed by 20 states in a Florida court. Virginia is not part of that lawsuit.
I was just reading this on Fox. This pulls the teeth out of the monster! LOL!
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#331 Dec 13, 2010
So we all continue to get the tax cuts. The tax cuts for the middle class will circulate and stimulate job growth while the tax cuts for the rich will be socked away or spent in China and create no jobs in America. In fact, those tax cuts will only make matters worse for 98% of the American people. Tax cuts for the rich suppress job growth in America.
There will be fewer jobs for Americans because of it.

If the "conservatives" have in mind to destroy the middle class and thereby the democracy that we have fought to protect for over two hundred years, they are are doing a bang-up job of it.

Since: May 08

Deltona Fla

#332 Dec 13, 2010
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Well it is reported that he has or has had 11 different numbers.........just saying.
It has been reported? By who? "It has been reported" is a standard line used by certain right wing media outlets when they want to run a smear they can not substantiate. It is their favorite CYA. Mark Twain once said “the reports of his death were greatly exaggerated”. But it had been reported. In today’s blogishpere there are billions of completely ridicules claims. I can grab any one of them and say “it has been reported”. Journalists are suppose to dig and evidence the reports to be factual, not simple say “it has been reported” and then air the story. That is why the commentators at Fox are not considered journalists. They are the Kings of “it has been reported”. They actually believe there is a difference between creating a lie and passing a lie along. Maybe legally there is but morally there is not. Commentators who engage in this practice may be legal but they are also immoral.
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#333 Dec 13, 2010
Stoneman wrote:
Is anybody paying attention?
For years and years, the socialist/Democrats hammered into all who would listen that the tax cuts in Bush's plan ONLY BENEFITED THE EVIL RICH.
Tax cuts for the rich.
Tax cuts for the rich.
Tax cuts for the rich.
Over and over and over.
In order to pass those tax cuts, Bush had to concede to the S/D demand that they expire in 2010.
Now that they are expiring, the S/D's are telling us that the tax rates should continue only for the middle class.
WAIT A MINUTE-- if the middle class didn't benefit from the tax cuts in the first place, how can continuing them benefit them?
WAS IT A LIE THE S/D's WERE TELLING US? Hmmmm?
Bush's tax cuts for the rich have been in effect now
for n early ten years. Where are the jobs? If tax cuts for the rich created jobs we would have jobs. But instead, 300,000
jobs a month were being lost during Bush's last year in office.

Tax cuts for the rich=no jobs for America.
mike

AOL

#334 Dec 13, 2010
Marine Corp Pat wrote:
The only good thing about the GOP taking back the House is that those ignorant racist right-wing blue collar fools that came out to vote to put these idiots in Congress will be the first ones to suffer due to their failed policies.
lol
Paul Revere

Indianapolis, IN

#335 Dec 13, 2010
swampmudd wrote:
<quoted text>Just in the interest of clarity the deficit is the overage on the yearly budget.(spending more then what was collected) The debt is the total amount we owe. I believe you are referring to the debt. We need to first state what the problem is before we can find a solution. Put simply, the problem is we need to find money to pay down the debt so who do we get the money from. In America we have (or had) three basic economic groups. The poor, the middle class, and the rich. The poor don’t have any money. That is why they are called the poor. Getting money from them is a waste of time because they don’t have any. The middle class is quickly disappearing and mostly joining the poor. They have very little extra money and if you take any more from them they will be poor. The rich have a surplus of money. More then they need. That is why they are called rich. If you realistically want to get more money who do you get it from, the guys with no money, the guys with almost no money or the guys with lots of extra money?
LOL, the fact is the 5% would buy our debt. Do cuts to programs and staffing of the US Govt to get the budget to positive not a negative. Also poor people seem to have money for their liquor, cigs, big screen tv's, cable and go out to eat on a weekly basis. Most poor people are that way because they are stupid. That is proven on a daily basis.

Since: May 08

Deltona Fla

#336 Dec 13, 2010
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Good, since you like truth........
By LARRY O'DELL, Associated Press Larry O'dell, Associated Press – 12 mins ago
RICHMOND, Va.– A federal judge in Virginia has declared the Obama administration's health care reform law unconstitutional.
U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson is the first judge to rule against the law, which has been upheld by two others in Virginia and Michigan.
Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli filed the lawsuit challenging the law's requirement that citizens buy health insurance or pay a penalty starting in 2014.
He argues the federal government doesn't have the constitutional authority to impose the requirement.
Other lawsuits are pending, including one filed by 20 states in a Florida court. Virginia is not part of that lawsuit.
Well so far it is two judges for and one judge against. It will be interesting to see what the Supreme Court says. Personally I am inclined to agree that the required purchase part is unconstitutional. I believe there is major difference between the people in general paying for something that is supplied to everyone through taxes such as single payer (the Government) and requiring individuals to purchase something they don't want. It is my opinion that Max Baucus added that poison pill intentionally for the benefit of his insurance buddies. If it is upheld it is a windfall for the insurance companies. If it is struck down the insurance companies will attempt to knock down all the perfectly constitutional parts that benefit the consumer like outlawing the pre-existing condition clauses. Baucus is a R.I.D. corporatist and I hope he is voted out of office in the next election.
Paul Revere

Indianapolis, IN

#337 Dec 13, 2010
Gary wrote:
So we all continue to get the tax cuts. The tax cuts for the middle class will circulate and stimulate job growth while the tax cuts for the rich will be socked away or spent in China and create no jobs in America. In fact, those tax cuts will only make matters worse for 98% of the American people. Tax cuts for the rich suppress job growth in America.
There will be fewer jobs for Americans because of it.
If the "conservatives" have in mind to destroy the middle class and thereby the democracy that we have fought to protect for over two hundred years, they are are doing a bang-up job of it.
LOL, last time I checked the Rich by things with cash and not credit cards nor loans they cannot pay back. So it seems they are actually better for the economy. Also you people need to get off your blame the Rich bs and make your own freaking wealth!
croc hunter

West Springfield, MA

#338 Dec 13, 2010
swampmudd wrote:
<quoted text>It has been reported? By who? "It has been reported" is a standard line used by certain right wing media outlets when they want to run a smear they can not substantiate. It is their favorite CYA. Mark Twain once said “the reports of his death were greatly exaggerated”. But it had been reported. In today’s blogishpere there are billions of completely ridicules claims. I can grab any one of them and say “it has been reported”. Journalists are suppose to dig and evidence the reports to be factual, not simple say “it has been reported” and then air the story. That is why the commentators at Fox are not considered journalists. They are the Kings of “it has been reported”. They actually believe there is a difference between creating a lie and passing a lie along. Maybe legally there is but morally there is not. Commentators who engage in this practice may be legal but they are also immoral.
They have the highest ratings fox news that is are the people stupid OR IS MUDDIE COMMIECRAT LYING AGAIN. THE PROGRESSIVES END IS NEAR COMMIE BOY.
croc hunter

West Springfield, MA

#339 Dec 13, 2010
HEY MUDD YOU LIE

“I laugh at Robo Posters”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#340 Dec 14, 2010
Gary wrote:
So we all continue to get the tax cuts. The tax cuts for the middle class will circulate and stimulate job growth while the tax cuts for the rich will be socked away or spent in China and create no jobs in America. In fact, those tax cuts will only make matters worse for 98% of the American people. Tax cuts for the rich suppress job growth in America.
There will be fewer jobs for Americans because of it.
If the "conservatives" have in mind to destroy the middle class and thereby the democracy that we have fought to protect for over two hundred years, they are are doing a bang-up job of it.
The Bush rates have been with us 10 years moron..........if your lie had validity we would have had a recession for the last ten years..........grow up, quit lying and read for yourself.

“I laugh at Robo Posters”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#341 Dec 14, 2010
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>
Bush's tax cuts for the rich have been in effect now
for n early ten years. Where are the jobs? If tax cuts for the rich created jobs we would have jobs. But instead, 300,000
jobs a month were being lost during Bush's last year in office.
Tax cuts for the rich=no jobs for America.
Yes due to the liberals in congress that blocked the reigning in of Barney and Dodd from cooking the books......we have lost an additional 4 million jobs under Odoodle.....

Since: Aug 10

Atlanta, GA

#342 Dec 14, 2010
As long as the 2 percenters get their way everyone's happy.

Since: Aug 10

Atlanta, GA

#343 Dec 14, 2010
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>The Bush rates have been with us 10 years moron..........if your lie had validity we would have had a recession for the last ten years..........grow up, quit lying and read for yourself.
<<<The Congressional Budget Office's Doug Elmendorf explains: "(T)he economic impact per dollar of revenue reduction from the full extension would be smaller than that from partial extension because a greater proportion of the tax savings from the full extension would go to relatively high income households, which tend to spend less of an increase in income than lower-income households do.">>>

<<<The Moody’s economists examined saving rates by income groups back to 1989. Their study uses statistics from the Federal Reserve’s quarterly Flow of Funds report, which gauges the net worth of households, and the Fed’s triennial Survey of Consumer Finances, a measure of balance sheets, pensions and incomes of U.S. families.

When tax legislation was signed by Clinton in 1993 -- raising the top tax rate to 39.6 percent from 31 percent -- the saving rate fell from 12.1 percent in the second quarter to 9.5 percent in the first quarter of 1994. The Standard & Poor’s 500 Index rose 1.9 percent from July through September, after little change the previous three months.

When the first Bush tax cuts were signed into law in June 2001, pushing the top rate down to 35 percent, the wealthy boosted savings. The saving rate climbed to 2.8 percent in the first quarter of 2002 from minus 2 percent in the second quarter of 2001. The increased savings coincided with a 1.1 percent decline in the S&P 500 index.>>>

Since: May 08

Deltona Fla

#344 Dec 14, 2010
croc hunter wrote:
HEY MUDD YOU LIE
I didn’t lie. You did come out of the ass of a Chihuahua.
croc hunter

West Springfield, MA

#345 Dec 14, 2010
swampmudd wrote:
<quoted text>I didn’t lie. You did come out of the ass of a Chihuahua.
WTF DOUCH BAG, more lies I did not the ass of a chihuahua. you said that witch IS A LIE see you lie BITCH.

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