Marijuana backers courting conservatives

Marijuana backers courting conservatives

There are 16 comments on the CBS News story from Oct 16, 2012, titled Marijuana backers courting conservatives. In it, CBS News reports that:

DENVER &#8212 It's not all hippies backing November's marijuana legalization votes in Colorado, Oregon and Washington.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at CBS News.

Since: Nov 08

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#1 Oct 16, 2012
Gubmint news strikes again.
xnutmegger

Phoenix, AZ

#2 Oct 16, 2012
That all depends on whether one is capable of knowing the difference between a conservative and a libertarian.

From what I read posted on TOPIX LEFTY isn't capable of knowing that.

Since: Sep 08

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#3 Oct 16, 2012
Conservatives are smart to support legalization,
since it would relieve some of the financial burden
on everyone. At this point, why why why fight
the inevitable? Just set it up properly for
control.
xnutmegger

Phoenix, AZ

#4 Oct 16, 2012
bobob wrote:
Conservatives are smart to support legalization,
since it would relieve some of the financial burden
on everyone. At this point, why why why fight
the inevitable? Just set it up properly for
control.
So would legalizing and taxing prostitution and allowing more gambling such as a national lottery.

But which conservative group would go along with it ?
* Fiscal conservatives ...maybe.
* Social conservatives ... definetly no.
* Navitist conservatives...probably not .
* Neo-Con conservatives...some 20-30%..
* Moderate Big Gov't conservativess...maybe-some.
* Libertarian-conservatives... possibly 60-40 yes.
CunningLinguist

Summerfield, FL

#5 Oct 16, 2012
http://www.smokersguide.com/sg/index.html

I have simply never understood why people should be jailed for actions that do not physically harm the person or property of others.

I have thus always been distinctly in the minority. People I admired and people I abhorred all seemed to agree: on this point I was wrong. I filed my conviction away under "something I'll understand when I'm older." Now I am older. It makes even less sense than it ever did.

From the mid-sixties to the early eighties, although the subject of consensual crimes (mostly referred to as "victimless crimes") was occasionally discussed and a number of scholarly tomes were published (some of them quite good), a comprehensive view of the subject for "just folks" like me never appeared.

Once the "War on Drugs" was declared, however, all discussion stopped. One might as well have tried saying something good about Emperor Hirohito in 1942.("Nice uniform!")

The image that outraged me into putting my childish notion on the front burner was the cover of a news magazine from the mid-1980s. Workers in a cocaine field were piled like firewood, their white peasant clothing red with blood. They had been gunned down in cold blood by American troops. The workers didn't own the field—they were brought in for the harvest, paid subsistence wages.

But was this cover an expos on the dangers of prohibition? A warning about what happens when rhetoric and prejudice become more important in setting national policy than logic and reason? A bold illustration of why "military solution" is the most destructive oxymoron of all?

No.

The headline blared: WINNING THE WAR ON DRUGS. Inside, the war on drugs was touted as though the magazine were covering the landing at Normandy. Page after page, article after article, arrest photo after arrest photo, diagrams, maps, bar graphs, pie charts—today they probably would have included a CD-ROM.
Sheik Yerbouti

Warrington, PA

#6 Oct 16, 2012
right wingers are usually miserable unhappy people and want everyone else to be too! They talk about 'less government' except when it comes to things they don't like. They are concerned that somewhere someone may actually be having a good time! Losers every one!
Tyrone

Gurnee, IL

#7 Oct 16, 2012
The Soviet Art of Brainwashing
http://communistore.blogspot.com/2010/01/sovi...

Liberals, Socialist, and Communists are promoting the legalization of Marijuana to create more tuned-out, clueless, unaware voters that are easy to manipulate and command because the drug addict and marijuana addict inherently hates critical thinking and analyzing hard data for facts. Democrats depend on public idleness and the lazy so they can create a society of dependent in need of a hand out.

The Soviet Art of Brainwashing
http://communistore.blogspot.com/2010/01/sovi...

Over a decade ago, conservatives have been unaware of the communist strategy to topple America through Drug addiction but Ronald and Nancy Reagan were aware. We must remember their legacy and follow their lead now more than ever. We have been unaware how Russian have been infiltrating America and used our universities to promote propaganda about how Marijuana is a harmless drug. In the book The Soviet Art of BrainWashing on page 22 it exposes the Communist intent to make the next generation drug addicted in order create the necessary conditions of idleness and worthlessness so that a communist regime can takeover as a nanny state, and take over more power from the people (with much of the populous oblivious and too apathetic and isolated in their addiction to push back against their agenda).

This is SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE that even some leading conservatives especially libertarians are falling right into the Communist play book by supporting the Legalization of the gateway drug - Marijuana. What is the quickest way to create an apathetic, docile, easily controlled voter base?

Answer: Get there minds addicted to Drugs, Narcotics and Porn that they'll become too clueless to really care what is going in the world around them. All the liberals need are enough tuned-out voters they will be able to shift the culture to left in no time, because a drug addicted mind doesn't care about their own future let alone their nations future nor the value of truth. The drug addicted person is too self-absorbed and too idle to care about anything or anyone except their next hit!
CunningLinguist

Summerfield, FL

#8 Oct 17, 2012
Tyrone wrote:
The Soviet Art of Brainwashing
http://communistore.blogspot.com/2010/01/sovi...
Liberals, Socialist, and Communists are promoting the legalization of Marijuana to create more tuned-out, clueless, unaware voters that are easy to manipulate and command because the drug addict and marijuana addict inherently hates critical thinking and analyzing hard data for facts. Democrats depend on public idleness and the lazy so they can create a society of dependent in need of a hand out.
WRONG!
The Marihuana Problem in the City of New York
Mayor's Committee on Marihuana, by the New York Academy of Medicine
City of New York , 1944.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/s...

http://www.cannabissearch.com/medical_benefit...

http://www.disabled-world.com/medical/pharmac...

THE MORE THAN 4,000,000 arrests made each year for consensual crimes aren't even the tip of the iceberg; they're more like the ice cube of the tip of the iceberg.

When you consider the ubiquity of the drug trade, and all the prostitutes paid, bets made, illicit sex bade, loiterers in the shade, vagrants on parade, and transvestites in masquerade, it's easy to see that the cops can't catch 'em, the courts can't handle 'em, and the prisons can't hold 'em.

To give one obvious example: In 1994, fewer than 15 million people were arrested for all crimes in the United States. In that same year, according to the Department of Health and Human Services, almost 26 million people illegally used drugs. The criminal justice system was burdened beyond capacity with the 15 million arrests (1.35 million of which were drug arrests). Can you imagine what would have happened if they had added 25 million more drug arrests? And that's just drugs.

When it comes to consensual crimes, the term criminal justice is an oxymoron. There's no justice because they're not criminals. As we explored in the chapter, "Enforcing Laws against Consensual Activities Destroys People's Lives," putting consensual criminals into a system designed for real criminals has significant detrimental effects on the former.

It also has detrimental effects on the system itself. Avowed to treating all criminals alike (the woman holding the scales of justice is blindfolded), the courts, when they become overcrowded, treat all criminals a little bit easier.

The scales of justice are a delicate balance. We may be able to add more jail cells by spending more money, but an effective court takes more than just an additional wing on the courthouse. Good judges take decades of seasoning.

Around each judge must be assembled a support system of court clerks, legal researchers, court reporters, bailiffs, and other individuals.
In our courts we seek the highest wisdom—the guidance of intelligence and maturity. Overcrowding the court system with consensual noncriminals keeps the bad judges in place, encourages incompetent lawyers to become judges, and prevents the truly good judges from doing their best.
Mountain Wanderer

Denver, CO

#10 Oct 20, 2012
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Mountain Wanderer

Denver, CO

#11 Oct 20, 2012
Cannibus, less addictive than coffee, less harmful than fast food.

Since: Sep 08

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#12 Oct 20, 2012
xnutmegger wrote:
<quoted text>
So would legalizing and taxing prostitution and allowing more gambling such as a national lottery.
But which conservative group would go along with it ?
* Fiscal conservatives ...maybe.
* Social conservatives ... definetly no.
* Navitist conservatives...probably not .
* Neo-Con conservatives...some 20-30%..
* Moderate Big Gov't conservativess...maybe-some.
* Libertarian-conservatives... possibly 60-40 yes.
Any conservative who has a realistic view of the financial
mess should see the benefits. Do you think that a religious
man like Governor Romney will support legalization of some sort?
I have my doubts.
dognes

Pittsburgh, PA

#14 Nov 27, 2012
youtube.com/watch...
Marijuana backers are smoking legalization,,Ive been there Colorado,,,
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#15 Nov 28, 2012
Mountain Wanderer wrote:
Cannibus, less addictive than coffee, less harmful than fast food.
Coffee and fast food won't get you fired at work if you work in a "drug free workzone" but cannibus will. The new laws say you can possess and use BUT it does not repeal the right of a company to have a zero drug policy and fire you for having it in your system on company premises and on company time. The FEDERAL government will have to drop all workman's comp and OSHA requirements before businesses are required to let stoners and dopers in a workzone. Federal laws override State laws.

Since: Jan 11

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#17 Nov 29, 2012
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>Coffee and fast food won't get you fired at work if you work in a "drug free workzone" but cannibus will. The new laws say you can possess and use BUT it does not repeal the right of a company to have a zero drug policy and fire you for having it in your system on company premises and on company time. The FEDERAL government will have to drop all workman's comp and OSHA requirements before businesses are required to let stoners and dopers in a workzone. Federal laws override State laws.
skip, skip, skip...
Awakened

Cookeville, TN

#18 Nov 29, 2012
Cannabis has been used for thousands of years as medicine and was even one of the ingredients Moses used to make anointing oil which was originally known as Kannah Bosm which translates to "cane of flower or blossom"

As someone that has been diligently trying to bridge the gap between science and faith for the past 25 years, I've found that there's truth's to all religions if you can read between the lines, but according to the Judeo Christian belief, prohibition of the plant is a violation of Gods law. I find it an abomination in a predominantly Christian Government to prohibit one of God's best creations that has over 25,000 uses to date which can be used as food, medicine, clothing, housing, and many more.

THEN GOD SAID,
I GIVE YOU EVERY SEED-BEARING
PLANT ON THE FACE OF THE WHOLE
EARTH, AND EVERY TREE THAT
HAS FRUIT IN IT."
GENESIS 1:29-30

All life on this earth is a biological system and requires biological elements. We are not chemical factories, and therefore shouldn't take any pharmaceutical drugs when there is a natural substance that actually works.

Government(local and federal), Politicians, Pharmaceutical Coorporations, and many other big business would loose revenue if it were made available.

When the people fear their government, there is Tyranny, When the Government fears the people, there is Liberty.

It's time for everyone to WAKE UP to reality.
Bernard Continelli

Albany, NY

#19 Dec 3, 2012
Tyrone wrote:
The Soviet Art of Brainwashing
http://communistore.blogspot.com/2010/01/sovi...
Liberals, Socialist, and Communists are promoting the legalization of Marijuana to create more tuned-out, clueless, unaware voters that are easy to manipulate and command because the drug addict and marijuana addict inherently hates critical thinking and analyzing hard data for facts. Democrats depend on public idleness and the lazy so they can create a society of dependent in need of a hand out.
The Soviet Art of Brainwashing
http://communistore.blogspot.com/2010/01/sovi...
Over a decade ago, conservatives have been unaware of the communist strategy to topple America through Drug addiction but Ronald and Nancy Reagan were aware. We must remember their legacy and follow their lead now more than ever. We have been unaware how Russian have been infiltrating America and used our universities to promote propaganda about how Marijuana is a harmless drug. In the book The Soviet Art of BrainWashing on page 22 it exposes the Communist intent to make the next generation drug addicted in order create the necessary conditions of idleness and worthlessness so that a communist regime can takeover as a nanny state, and take over more power from the people (with much of the populous oblivious and too apathetic and isolated in their addiction to push back against their agenda).
This is SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE that even some leading conservatives especially libertarians are falling right into the Communist play book by supporting the Legalization of the gateway drug - Marijuana. What is the quickest way to create an apathetic, docile, easily controlled voter base?
Answer: Get there minds addicted to Drugs, Narcotics and Porn that they'll become too clueless to really care what is going in the world around them. All the liberals need are enough tuned-out voters they will be able to shift the culture to left in no time, because a drug addicted mind doesn't care about their own future let alone their nations future nor the value of truth. The drug addicted person is too self-absorbed and too idle to care about anything or anyone except their next hit!
If you replace your words "Liberals, Socialists, and Communists" with the "super-elite Illuminati" which ultimately controls them (as well as the far Right, SIMULTANEOUSLY!), AND you separate cannabis (marijuana) from the hard drugs and (more accurately) "The Porning of America" referring of course to the 2008 book of the same title which indicts a national mindset rather than just the legal availability of porn for adults, THEN you stand corrected in my opinion. This toker-since-'74, however, is the furthest thing from "malleable"!

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