China: U.S. should take lead on climate

China: U.S. should take lead on climate

There are 13 comments on the Detroit Free Press story from Sep 10, 2009, titled China: U.S. should take lead on climate. In it, Detroit Free Press reports that:

Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao reminded the world Thursday that China is serious about tackling global warming - but on its own terms.

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Jones

“It's about the American People”

Since: Jun 07

Flushing, NY

#1 Sep 10, 2009
China does not desire to be involved in the liberal communist Democrats’ conspiracy against the American people, that uses ‘climate lies’ to suck money from the US private sector corporations and the American ‘rich’ and send it to the liberal communist unions, Acorn, the Black poor and to other liberal interest groups.
The liberal fake scientists are sold out bunch of liars that will say anything for money, and will even connect global warming lies to earthquakes. The liberal communist Democrats led by the fake African Muslin born of the Luo tribe Barack Obama will never stop their lies and deceit of the American people about the global warming even if the facts prove that they are bunch of liars led by Al Gore. The Green czar Van Jones already confirmed that the global warming fraud is used to push the communistic regime over the American people by controlling their private life. Liberalism Marxism and Islam is a combination of political power that uses lies in order to increase its power over the blind innocent and illiterate people who believe their lies.
It is time to stop the global warming madness and to save the American people from the Communist dictator Muslim Obama and his forty thieves known as czars that have the worst hidden international agenda against the American constitution that they aim at trashing.
Monk

Salem, OR

#2 Sep 11, 2009
Jones wrote:
China does not desire to be involved in the liberal communist Democrats’ conspiracy against the American people, send it to the liberal communist unions, Acorn, the Black poor and to other liberal interest groups.
The liberal communist Democrats led by the fake African Muslin born of the Luo tribe Barack Obama will never stop their lies and deceit of the American people about the global warming even if the facts prove that they are bunch of liars led by Al Gore. The Green czar Van Jones already confirmed that the global warming fraud is used to push the communistic regime over the American people by controlling their private life. Liberalism Marxism and Islam is a combination of political power that uses lies in order to increase its power over the blind innocent and illiterate people who believe their lies.
It is time to stop the global warming madness and to save the American people from the Communist dictator Muslim Obama and his forty thieves known as czars that have the worst hidden international agenda against the American constitution that they aim at trashing.
Jones- you get more irrational every time you post. Your hatred for President Obama has put you over the edge-
you are now insane.

Do you think posting anti-communist ranting on a China thread will win you friends in China? China is a communist
country, Jones. If the US becomes more communist under the communist President Obama, the US will have more,
not less in common with China.
Solarman

Cathedral City, CA

#3 Sep 11, 2009
From what I've seen, the U.S. is leading the way on climate change. All those nasty factories are now in China making goods for the U.S. Of course we could help China out and pull all manufacturing of goods sold in America, then we could create jobs here or the factories could be built in other countries, like Viet Nam.

Since: Aug 08

Pittsburgh, PA

#4 Sep 11, 2009
Solarman wrote:
......we could pull all manufacturing of goods sold in America, then we could create jobs here......
Never should have set our jobs to China in the first place.
smallville

Shanghai, China

#5 Sep 11, 2009
Sometimes I like naive American. You guys think you are the only important one and do not even know the fact.

Not to mention USA, let us say USA plus EU and Japan. All of USA plus EU and Japan only have less than 500 billion USD assets in China and these assets including factories, real estate, deposit, etc.

It was true that you set some of your jobs to China but in most cases you just close your jobs. And why? Because these jobs do not make good money. Let us sell subprime mortgage products. It made good money. Understand?
Monk

Salem, OR

#6 Sep 12, 2009
smallville wrote:
Sometimes I like naive American. You guys think you are the only important one and do not even know the fact.
Not to mention USA, let us say USA plus EU and Japan. All of USA plus EU and Japan only have less than 500 billion USD assets in China and these assets including factories, real estate, deposit, etc.
It was true that you set some of your jobs to China but in most cases you just close your jobs. And why? Because these jobs do not make good money. Let us sell subprime mortgage products. It made good money. Understand?
Multi-National Corporations have exploited China and its workers for years. They are signing new agreements with China everyday. MNCs like to avoid US health and safety laws so they go to China. They use up China's resources, pollute her environment and pocket $billions in profit with the
approval of your government. Wake up.
Earthling

Almería, Spain

#7 Sep 12, 2009
Look out America, when China gets its wheels turning, it's be outsourcing production to your country, where cheap labour will be abundant.
smallville

Shanghai, China

#8 Sep 12, 2009
Monk wrote:
<quoted text>
Multi-National Corporations have exploited China and its workers for years. They are signing new agreements with China everyday. MNCs like to avoid US health and safety laws so they go to China. They use up China's resources, pollute her environment and pocket $billions in profit with the
approval of your government. Wake up.
You wake up. US health and safety laws were only a part of the reason. And the industrialization will pollute. It is only a problem of balance. I can tell you North Korea almost have no pollution although they made two nuclear tests.

As they use up China's resources, that's China's business. Since when you began to care about China's resources?
DeeRush Limbaw

Salem, OR

#9 Sep 12, 2009
smallville wrote:
<quoted text>
You wake up. US health and safety laws were only a part of the reason. And the industrialization will pollute. It is only a problem of balance. I can tell you North Korea almost have no pollution although they made two nuclear tests.
As they use up China's resources, that's China's business. Since when you began to care about China's resources?
Apparently you don't care that MNCs exploit China for their own selfish gain. US health and safety laws protect workers
and citizens from dangerous pollution like this-

"A total of 1,016 children in Shaanxi province's Changqing township were tested, and 851 were found to have excessive lead levels in their blood."

Jobs that left the US for China will be replaced by better
technology, less pollution and with the health and safety of
workers and citizens in mind.

North Korea is a dying nation. Why you bring up their lack of pollution is very strange. N Korea is a very poor nation-

"At the big Shinanju station, midway to Pyongyang, the results of nearly 20 years of food shortages are plain to see - groups of stunted young army conscripts who barely make the 1.3 metre minimum height requirement of the People's Army."
"Malnutrition among children has been increasing since 1995. A system of food rationing designed to provide an adequate diet collapsed in various parts of the country during the late 1990s. In 1998 about 16 percent of children were malnourished, and another 62 percent suffered from illnesses related to undernourishment."

Nothing is happening in N korea to create pollution. Maybe
MNCs can set up shop in North Korea and generate some
lead poisoning and pollution. But they will have to use starving workers for labor.
Monk

Salem, OR

#10 Sep 12, 2009
smallville wrote:
<quoted text>
You wake up. US health and safety laws were only a part of the reason. And the industrialization will pollute. It is only a problem of balance. I can tell you North Korea almost have no pollution although they made two nuclear tests.
As they use up China's resources, that's China's business. Since when you began to care about China's resources?

Apparently you don't care that MNCs exploit China for their own selfish gain. US health and safety laws protect workers
and citizens from dangerous pollution like this-

"A total of 1,016 children in Shaanxi province's Changqing township were tested, and 851 were found to have excessive lead levels in their blood."

Jobs that left the US for China will be replaced by better
technology, less pollution and with the health and safety of
workers and citizens in mind.

North Korea is a dying nation. Why you bring up their lack of pollution is very strange. N Korea is a very poor nation-

"At the big Shinanju station, midway to Pyongyang, the results of nearly 20 years of food shortages are plain to see - groups of stunted young army conscripts who barely make the 1.3 metre minimum height requirement of the People's Army."
"Malnutrition among children has been increasing since 1995. A system of food rationing designed to provide an adequate diet collapsed in various parts of the country during the late 1990s. In 1998 about 16 percent of children were malnourished, and another 62 percent suffered from illnesses related to undernourishment."

Nothing is happening in N korea to create pollution. Maybe
MNCs can set up shop in North Korea and generate some
lead poisoning and pollution. But they will have to use starving workers for labor.
Drink The Hive

Orlando, FL

#11 Sep 12, 2009
If U Want 2 Live-Stay Away From Chinese Food!

2/2=0

“EnvironMENTAList ”

Since: Feb 07

Near Detroit

#12 Sep 12, 2009
It's amazing how in the midst of such great comfort and luxury at this time in history that offers us record setting longevity rates, one can still manage to worry about something as far away as China.
I suppose it's a do-gooders way of over compensating for something. If you can't be compassionate, pretend you are you selfish global doomers.
If you globull doomers spent as much time experiencing and loving nature as you do throwing it under the bus, you would be a lot closer to reality and away from your self-centered delusions of "helping the planet". You want to help the poor little 5 billion year old planet? GET A BIRD FEEDER.
And stop scaring my kids you freaks.
truthist

United States

#13 Sep 16, 2009
mememine69 wrote:
It's amazing how in the midst of such great comfort and luxury at this time in history that offers us record setting longevity rates, one can still manage to worry about something as far away as China.
I suppose it's a do-gooders way of over compensating for something. If you can't be compassionate, pretend you are you selfish global doomers.
If you globull doomers spent as much time experiencing and loving nature as you do throwing it under the bus, you would be a lot closer to reality and away from your self-centered delusions of "helping the planet". You want to help the poor little 5 billion year old planet? GET A BIRD FEEDER.
And stop scaring my kids you freaks.
CNN says today: Earth's oceans had warmest summer on record

Summer temperatures for the globe's ocean surface ranked as the warmest on record, according to a report released Wednesday by the National Climatic Data Center.

Overall, when the Earth's land areas and oceans are included together, the three-month June-August period measured as the third-warmest summer on record. Global climate records go back to 1880.

Climatologists measure summer from June 1 to Aug. 31. The climate center is a branch of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

"During the season, warmer-than-average temperatures engulfed much of the planet's surface," the center wrote in an online report. One exception to the warmth was the north-central USA and central Canada, which had an unusually cool summer due to a persistent trough of low pressure that kept the area cloudy and cool.

The ocean's summer temperature was 62.5 degrees, 1 degree above the 20th-century average of 61.5 degrees.

The cause of the warmth? Deke Arndt, chief of the climate monitoring branch at the climate center, says it's due to a combination of man-made global warming and El Nino, a natural periodic warming of the tropical Pacific Ocean that affects weather around the world. "Each of those is a component in this summer's temperatures, he said.

"If El Nino continues to mature as projected by NOAA, global temperatures are likely to continue to threaten previous record highs," noted the center's report.

What really jumped out at Arndt, he says, was the heat in the Southern Hemisphere. "The warmth in Australia and South America in August was striking," he says. "Land areas in the Southern Hemisphere in August broke their previous record by a large amount."

Overall, it was the second-warmest winter on record in the Southern Hemisphere.(June-August is winter in the Southern Hemisphere.)

Additionally, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center, Arctic sea ice covered an average of 2.42 million square miles during August. This is 18.4% below the 1979-2000 average extent and is consistent with a decline of August sea ice extent since 1979.
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/2009-...

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