Murkowski to Vote 'Yes' on 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Repeal, But There's a Catch

Dec 8, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: WJR-AM Detroit

The push to repeal the military's controversial "don't ask, don't tell" policy potentially received a big boost Wednesday afternoon when GOP Sen.

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“Brutally honest. ”

Since: Nov 08

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#85 Dec 12, 2010
BS Detector wrote:
<quoted text> Once again you answer with that which applies to your own stuff. interesting, doncha think? No, maybe you don't.
<quoted text> Yes, you get to tell me whatever gives you a tingle. Of course I am shocked that you consider me an ass, but you aren't the first idiot to think that, and clearly your assessment devistates me. I don't know how, I will ever recover from your disapproval.
<quoted text> Aw, once again your show your stupidity. A wise man once said "A stupid person tells me what I think. A smart one asks."
Confirming your stupidity (or maybe just foolish youth), I have re-assessed many things, even here. Nothing that you or Dubya has said of course, but ideas advanced by others.
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Of course it is possible.
<quoted text> You lie, of course. That is clearly not your agenda. And you assume I have a problem simply because I reject your bullsh!t. Seems like you mis-identify the one with any problem here.
<quoted text> I don't believe you.
<quoted text> That is correct. There was nothing you did that accomplished anything. Nothing at all. But that's what happens when you lie. If you want to believe that my tone is vile, I invite you to do so. Your belief has nothing to do with reality. If ytou want to believe that I'm a bad person, I invite you to do so. Your belief has nothing to dow ith reality. Some idiots believe all gays are sick perverts. Does that stupid belief make it so? They may claim to have superior intelligence and education. Does that make it so?
<quoted text> I'm not sure why you are obsessed with my bodily waste frangance, but that's your obsession, not mine. Your assessment is irrelevant and also incorrect as is most of your silly nonsense that you take so very seriously.
You didn't ask, you demanded. In the process, you made yourself look foolish. You have an opportunity to learn from your mistake, but somehow I don't believe you are mature enough to do so.
That, of course, is just my opinion... not that you're interested in anybody's opinion but your own.
Would you like me to apologize? Say, I understand where you are coming from and I am in the wrong? Frankly, even if I did that, it wouldn't make a difference.

I only hope that in the future we can have a good conversation without resorting to name-calling, bashing, or degrading one another's character.

Have a nice evening.

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#86 Dec 12, 2010
BS Detector wrote:
<quoted text> Once again you answer with that which applies to your own stuff. interesting, doncha think? No, maybe you don't.
<quoted text> Yes, you get to tell me whatever gives you a tingle. Of course I am shocked that you consider me an ass, but you aren't the first idiot to think that, and clearly your assessment devistates me. I don't know how, I will ever recover from your disapproval.
<quoted text> Aw, once again your show your stupidity. A wise man once said "A stupid person tells me what I think. A smart one asks."
Confirming your stupidity (or maybe just foolish youth), I have re-assessed many things, even here. Nothing that you or Dubya has said of course, but ideas advanced by others.
<quoted text>
Of course it is possible.
<quoted text> You lie, of course. That is clearly not your agenda. And you assume I have a problem simply because I reject your bullsh!t. Seems like you mis-identify the one with any problem here.
<quoted text> I don't believe you.
<quoted text> That is correct. There was nothing you did that accomplished anything. Nothing at all. But that's what happens when you lie. If you want to believe that my tone is vile, I invite you to do so. Your belief has nothing to do with reality. If ytou want to believe that I'm a bad person, I invite you to do so. Your belief has nothing to dow ith reality. Some idiots believe all gays are sick perverts. Does that stupid belief make it so? They may claim to have superior intelligence and education. Does that make it so?
<quoted text> I'm not sure why you are obsessed with my bodily waste frangance, but that's your obsession, not mine. Your assessment is irrelevant and also incorrect as is most of your silly nonsense that you take so very seriously.
You didn't ask, you demanded. In the process, you made yourself look foolish. You have an opportunity to learn from your mistake, but somehow I don't believe you are mature enough to do so.
That, of course, is just my opinion... not that you're interested in anybody's opinion but your own.
Love your turn of phrase!! Your posts fall into the "I wish I'd thought of that" catagory. Happy Holidays to you and yours.
Crying Wolf

West New York, NJ

#87 Dec 12, 2010
Gay Mom wrote:
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Love your turn of phrase!! Your posts fall into the "I wish I'd thought of that" catagory. Happy Holidays to you and yours.
and Merry Christmas to you

Since: Jan 08

Bangkok, Thailand

#88 Dec 12, 2010
BS Detector wrote:
<quoted text> I'm so sorry. I only slam your limited mental skills becasue you parade them with such pride. And you insult my intellectual skills believing for a moment that I would be foolish enough to buy into your nonsense.
Do be a fan of MSNBC all you want. Interesting that you call FOX propaganda while lauding MSNBC, though. And it supports my observation about your limited mental skills. And just for grins, it also substantiates your hypocrisy. Fear not. MSNBC is no thorn to me, and clearly did not get the Democrat message out... or maybe it did and the voters simply didn't buy the bullsh!t. I don't take MSNBC (or you) seriously, although in fairness, I did try to watch Maddow. While clearly intelligent, I couldn't stomach her after a few minutes and turned her off. Again in fairness (and candor), I didn't give Olberman my time. He's not worth any of it. Interesting how you idolize them and call Fox propoganda. Very telling, and again substantiates my observation about you and your intellectual deficiencies.
Speaking of clues, ever wonder why Fox eclipses MSNBC in the ratings? Ever wonder why conservative talk radio is successful and Air America went down the tubes? Since your mental skills are questionable (not really), I'll tell you. It's because viewers and listeners demonstrably want Fox and conservative talk radio.
We know this because of ratings.
Go for it, kid. Such is your right.(That, and it's so easy and entertaining to ridicule and humiliate you.)
Just as I thought, no class and no brains. You're on this site to spout your "intelligence," or lack thereof. Go pretending you're the light of the land with fox as your source of inspiration and knowledge. You truly are "fair and balanced."

“Brutally honest. ”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#89 Dec 12, 2010
Dubya wrote:
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Just as I thought, no class and no brains. You're on this site to spout your "intelligence," or lack thereof. Go pretending you're the light of the land with fox as your source of inspiration and knowledge. You truly are "fair and balanced."
I apologize for hijacking this thread and bringing you into my previous conversation. I used his treatment of you as an attempt to prove a point. While I believe it was proven, no progress was made.

Thanks.
Shady Lady

Palatine, IL

#90 Dec 12, 2010
Someone tell lil Lsa she can't vote anything on DADT, because it is dead. Gone. Over. She is so "on the ball!!" Wake her when it's over!!!
BS Detector

Venice, CA

#91 Dec 13, 2010
whitefalcon1678 wrote:
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Would you like me to apologize?
Not particularly.

If I really *did* want anything, it would be for you to learn something from the exchange. I know that, unlike Dubya, you're basically intelligent. But you said a whole boatload of stupid things. Lose being a self-righteous hypocrite. You'll be far more effective at communicating and changing your opponent's mind... assuming he or she has a functioning one and your position is secure. Secondly, you can afford to be arrogant only when your position is rock solid, your character irrefutable, and you don't give a rat's ass what your opponent thinks of you.

Be of good cheer.

Since: Jan 08

Bangkok, Thailand

#92 Dec 13, 2010
whitefalcon1678 wrote:
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I apologize for hijacking this thread and bringing you into my previous conversation. I used his treatment of you as an attempt to prove a point. While I believe it was proven, no progress was made.
Thanks.
No need to apologize; I appreciated your defense; at least I knew I wasn't alone. For a minute there I thought BS was rationale. Unfortunately he returned to form, a jerk and a bully.
Shady Lady

Barrington, IL

#94 Dec 13, 2010
What ever the Democrats came in to do they did nothing, but put this country trillion dollars in debt. They accomplished nothing, no money to close Gitmo, no ending the wars. Nothing. Raise taxes, and coddle the non productive. That is why they lost 63 seats in the House.
BS Detector

Venice, CA

#95 Dec 13, 2010
Shady Lady wrote:
What ever the Democrats came in to do they did nothing, but put this country trillion dollars in debt. They accomplished nothing, no money to close Gitmo, no ending the wars. Nothing. Raise taxes, and coddle the non productive. That is why they lost 63 seats in the House.
I was trying to come up with a smartass response. Problem is, what you said was spot on. Nothing I could say would be any better.

Damn.

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#96 Dec 14, 2010
BS Detector wrote:
<quoted text> Omigod! You really ARE that stupid! You poor dumb queer. How can I possibly bully you via computer? Are you that emotionally weak and pathetic? Yeah, seems like you are.
Do you underatand that sad little queers like you are the reason normal people don't like gays?
Ahemmmmmm. I'm surprised at this comment. Is this what you really think? I had always assumed you just called bs on people according to logical standards. I did not think you were a hater. Get back to me on this, please.

Since: Nov 09

Toronto, Canada

#97 Dec 14, 2010
And do you understand that abrasive, know-it-all, never-a-doubt-of-their-rightne ss breeders like you are the reason we don't like your ilk?

Anyone who is absolutely convinced of how right they are is quite often the most wrong. Pull the claws in and do some internal work before you foray into others lives.
BS Detector wrote:
<quoted text> Omigod! You really ARE that stupid! You poor dumb queer. How can I possibly bully you via computer? Are you that emotionally weak and pathetic? Yeah, seems like you are.
Do you underatand that sad little queers like you are the reason normal people don't like gays?
BS Detector

Venice, CA

#98 Dec 14, 2010
Gay Mom wrote:
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Ahemmmmmm. I'm surprised at this comment. Is this what you really think? I had always assumed you just called bs on people according to logical standards. I did not think you were a hater. Get back to me on this, please.
Not a hater, of course, and thanks for the non-invective challenge.

Sorry. Dubya *is* that stupid. And he somehow seems to think his brand of hate, prejudice, and stupidity is clever and justified. I'm tired of his BS and see no reason to make nice with the hateful little twerp. There are others who do the same thing and are never challenged by other gays in this forum. Personally, I think that's a double standard, but I realize I'm the enemy to some because I don't toe the militant party line re same sex marriage.

Now, if you object to my use of an orientation slander, so be it. To you I would apologize, not Dubya. We both know that many gays use such perjoratives with impunity. Me, being a breeder, am not allowed to do the same, and frankly, I used it because the bigoted little jerk is offensive. Of course there's the aforementioned double standard. It's part of the reason I used it. It's not hate, although the usual hypocrites will consider it so. I'm tired of his BS. And yes, my guess is that because of people like him, some straights would have a negative perception of gays.

My guess is that you might not like, or agree with my answer, and I would regret, but understand, that. My guess is also that I might not accomplsh much by my frustration with idiots people like Dubya.
BS Detector

Venice, CA

#99 Dec 14, 2010
Right American in Canada wrote:
And do you understand that abrasive, know-it-all, never-a-doubt-of-their-rightne ss breeders like you are the reason we don't like your ilk?
Anyone who is absolutely convinced of how right they are is quite often the most wrong. Pull the claws in and do some internal work before you foray into others lives.
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Since you clearly have noi idea what my "ilk" is, you'll understand ifd I don't care what you think.

Yes, I can be abrasive. I'm even arrogant. Contrary to your claim, I don't claim to "know-it-all." You made that up, not me. And I have doubts about many things. Again, your prejudice is clear and incorrect. Have you've read the hate filled crap from some of the more militant and hateful on your side? Perhaps your neglect in objecting to them is merly an oversight on your part and not a blatant double standard.

Perhaps you, who seem "absolutely convinced of how right (you) are," are this time "most wrong." Perhaps you would do well to do some "internal work" before you judge another you don't know about.

Just a suggestion.

Since: Nov 09

Toronto, Canada

#100 Dec 14, 2010
Your "ilk" is pretty apparent, actually, so that's not a big stretch. The details of a person are rarely obvious, but the big components are generally pretty apparent when someone spews, which you do continuously.

Of course I've read the hate-filled crap from my side. It exists on both sides, and I rarely agree with any extreme. I'm simply choosing one that is particularly nasty for my ire. If you see my previous posts you'll see I've done the same for "my side" as well.

I'm not absolutely sure of much, if anything, and didn't claim to be. That's a red herring. And the whole "you too" defense stopped working at around 6 years old.
BS Detector wrote:
<quoted text> Since you clearly have noi idea what my "ilk" is, you'll understand ifd I don't care what you think.
Yes, I can be abrasive. I'm even arrogant. Contrary to your claim, I don't claim to "know-it-all." You made that up, not me. And I have doubts about many things. Again, your prejudice is clear and incorrect. Have you've read the hate filled crap from some of the more militant and hateful on your side? Perhaps your neglect in objecting to them is merly an oversight on your part and not a blatant double standard.
Perhaps you, who seem "absolutely convinced of how right (you) are," are this time "most wrong." Perhaps you would do well to do some "internal work" before you judge another you don't know about.
Just a suggestion.

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#101 Dec 15, 2010
BS Detector wrote:
<quoted text> Not a hater, of course, and thanks for the non-invective challenge.
Sorry. Dubya *is* that stupid. And he somehow seems to think his brand of hate, prejudice, and stupidity is clever and justified. I'm tired of his BS and see no reason to make nice with the hateful little twerp. There are others who do the same thing and are never challenged by other gays in this forum. Personally, I think that's a double standard, but I realize I'm the enemy to some because I don't toe the militant party line re same sex marriage.
Now, if you object to my use of an orientation slander, so be it. To you I would apologize, not Dubya. We both know that many gays use such perjoratives with impunity. Me, being a breeder, am not allowed to do the same, and frankly, I used it because the bigoted little jerk is offensive. Of course there's the aforementioned double standard. It's part of the reason I used it. It's not hate, although the usual hypocrites will consider it so. I'm tired of his BS. And yes, my guess is that because of people like him, some straights would have a negative perception of gays.
My guess is that you might not like, or agree with my answer, and I would regret, but understand, that. My guess is also that I might not accomplsh much by my frustration with idiots people like Dubya.
Frustration I understand!! Thanks for clearing things up.
BS Detector

Venice, CA

#102 Dec 15, 2010
Gay Mom wrote:
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Frustration I understand!! Thanks for clearing things up.
How can anybody not know you're amazing?
BS Detector

Venice, CA

#103 Dec 15, 2010
Right American in Canada wrote:
Your "ilk" is pretty apparent, actually, so that's not a big stretch. The details of a person are rarely obvious, but the big components are generally pretty apparent when someone spews, which you do continuously.
Of course I've read the hate-filled crap from my side. It exists on both sides, and I rarely agree with any extreme. I'm simply choosing one that is particularly nasty for my ire. If you see my previous posts you'll see I've done the same for "my side" as well.
I'm not absolutely sure of much, if anything, and didn't claim to be. That's a red herring. And the whole "you too" defense stopped working at around 6 years old.
<quoted text>
Although you failed to specify what my imagined "ilk" is, other parts of your post have some merit.

Since: Sep 10

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#104 Jan 4, 2012
NDAA has been signed by Obama. It makes me think that the war on terrorism might be as fake as the war against drugs. The gangsters are just protecting their criminal fear selling business. Vote for Ron Paul to save the democracy.

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