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US senators warn Iraq over Iran shipments to Syria

There are 33 comments on the Boston Herald story from Sep 5, 2012, titled US senators warn Iraq over Iran shipments to Syria. In it, Boston Herald reports that:

American senators visiting Iraq warned the Baghdad government Wednesday that it risked damaging relations with the U.S. if it is allowing Iran to fly over its airspace to deliver weapons to Syria.

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Gravediggers

United States

#2 Sep 5, 2012
Oh, but they're are friends!

The Middle East is tumbling out of control and America still send billion$ and billion$ to these entities.

Arab Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter, Spring, Summer, and soon to be Fall...this will go on for years.

The USA needs to be INdependent of FOREIGN energy!

Obama's plan for energy will take decades and decades and decades and decades and decades and decades to implement. Our economy will be so sluggish and take this long to improve.

We MUST jumpstart our economy, produce OUR OWN energy (and thereby putting millions of people to work) and oust Obama AND the democrat MAJORITY in the Senate.

Or face Obama's decades of slow, sluggish growth.

NO to OWEbama
NO in NOvember
old possum

Greeley, CO

#3 Sep 5, 2012
The Child President's policy is setting the stage for another disaster. Why am I not surprised?

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#4 Sep 5, 2012
old possum wrote:
The Child President's policy is setting the stage for another disaster. Why am I not surprised?
The Child President did set the stage for disaster. He destroyed Iraq'a air force with his "shock and awe" and "mission accomplished." Now he is back in Texas, not even allowed to speak at the RNC.

But who told McCain that he is US Secretary of State?
Who told Lieberman that he is president?

Why are these old fools play-acting at foreign relations, while the administration works this problem?
Are they trying to sabatage the effort to stop the shipments, or are they just politicking for the home folks?
old possum

Greeley, CO

#5 Sep 5, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
The Child President did set the stage for disaster. He destroyed Iraq'a air force with his "shock and awe" and "mission accomplished." Now he is back in Texas, not even allowed to speak at the RNC.
But who told McCain that he is US Secretary of State?
Who told Lieberman that he is president?
Why are these old fools play-acting at foreign relations, while the administration works this problem?
Are they trying to sabatage the effort to stop the shipments, or are they just politicking for the home folks?
Really? Still blaming Bush? LOL! That's what makes Obama the mature one? LOL! Thanks for proving that Obama is the One & Only Child President. Four years later and he's still crying, wetting his pants and telling Mommy & Daddy that "mean Georgie" did it. Nice of you to point that out.

Adults realize they are responsible for whatever position the acquire in life regardless of who had it in the past. Yes, a little blame shifting is ok for a short period. But after four f*cking years, Obama has proven to be just an enormous crybaby with a load in his diaper.
Lonewolf

Leesville, SC

#6 Sep 5, 2012
That's the thanks we get for the billions of dollars and thousands of young American lives wasted.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#7 Sep 5, 2012
old possum wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? Still blaming Bush? LOL! That's what makes Obama the mature one? LOL! Thanks for proving that Obama is the One & Only Child President. Four years later and he's still crying, wetting his pants and telling Mommy & Daddy that "mean Georgie" did it. Nice of you to point that out.
Adults realize they are responsible for whatever position the acquire in life regardless of who had it in the past. Yes, a little blame shifting is ok for a short period. But after four f*cking years, Obama has proven to be just an enormous crybaby with a load in his diaper.
Not "still" but correctly blaming Bush. Did President Obama burn the Iraqi air force? NO.

Your Bush-baby ruined our country for a ddecader, maybe a generation. We are still suffering the Great Bush Recessuon, whether you will admitt it or not.

Obama is not crying but weakling Speaker Bohner is just likje TINY TEARS.

President Obama won back (approx) 4.2 of rhe 4.5 million jobs lost under Bush-baby. People ike yyou do quite a lot of "blame shifting," but your stupid votes for greedy stupid politicians put us in a hugh hole.

Blame yourself, crybaby.
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#8 Sep 6, 2012
Lonewolf wrote:
That's the thanks we get for the billions of dollars and thousands of young American lives wasted.
Considering that Iraq did NOT invite us to INVADE their country, why would you expect them to 'thank us' for ANYTHING?
Ayreshire

Albuquerque, NM

#9 Sep 6, 2012
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>
Considering that Iraq did NOT invite us to INVADE their country, why would you expect them to 'thank us' for ANYTHING?
Are you clueless and uneducated or what?? I would say with out a doubt YES!! Saddam had broken EVER U.N. Resolution from the First Gulf War and gave us every Right to go back in regardless of WMD's! Stop the ignorant nonsense!! Iraq's Saddam Hussein created a far greater humanitarian nightmare than Libya. "The Butcher of Baghdad" slaughtered, at minimum, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis -- far more people than were killed in Bosnia and Kosovo, where President Clinton ordered military force for humanitarian reasons. Yet, when weapons hunters found no stockpiles of WMD in Iraq, the dwindling number of pro-war Democrats turned against the war never mind the sickening sight of thousands of Iraqis found in shallow graves.
That Saddam possessed stockpiles of WMD, having used chemical weapons on the Iranians and his own people, was not in dispute. All 16 U.S. intelligences agencies thought so "with the highest probability." France, the United Kingdom, Russia, Egypt, Jordan, China, Israel and even Saddam's own generals assumed Iraq possessed WMD. Even U.N. weapons inspector and Iraq War critic Hans Blix thought Saddam likely possessed these weapons. As Blix admitted at a 2004 University of Berkeley forum:' I'm not here to have gut feelings. But yes, in December 2002 (three months before the invasion) I thought Saddam had weapons of mass destruction." The non-unilateralist Nobel Peace Prize laureate Obama, unlike Bush, sought no congressional war resolution. Obama, therefore, ordered military action against Libya "unilaterally" -- without the congressional approval that he once argued the Constitution demanded.

As Obama further explained in his December 2007 statement, "In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent." So a president, according to Obama, does not need congressional authority -- provided the action involves "self-defense" or "stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."

What is the "actual or imminent threat" to America posed by Libya?
Ritter served from 1991 to 1998 as a United Nations weapons inspector in Iraq in the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM), which was charged with finding and destroying all weapons of mass destruction and WMD-related manufacturing capabilities in Iraq. He was chief inspector in fourteen of the more than thirty inspection missions in which he participated.

In January 1998, his inspection team in Iraq was blocked from some weapons sites by Iraqi officials stating that information obtained from these sites would be used for future planning of attacks. UN Inspectors were ordered out of Iraq by the United States Government, shortly before Operation Desert Fox attacks began in December 1998, using information which had been gathered for the purpose of disarmament to identify targets which would reduce Iraq's ability to wage both conventional and possibly unconventional warfare. UN Weapons Inspectors were thereafter denied access to Iraq. He spoke on the Public Broadcasting Service show. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ritter

Ayreshire

Albuquerque, NM

#10 Sep 6, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
Not "still" but correctly blaming Bush. Did President Obama burn the Iraqi air force? NO.
Your Bush-baby ruined our country for a ddecader, maybe a generation. We are still suffering the Great Bush Recessuon, whether you will admitt it or not.
Obama is not crying but weakling Speaker Bohner is just likje TINY TEARS.
President Obama won back (approx) 4.2 of rhe 4.5 million jobs lost under Bush-baby. People ike yyou do quite a lot of "blame shifting," but your stupid votes for greedy stupid politicians put us in a hugh hole.
Blame yourself, crybaby.
What an uneducated Obama Zombie!! The deficit for the 1st Year Clinton took office was:

1992 438.504 Billion Deficit

Then following that we have the following:
1993 374.997 Billion Deficit
1994 290.576 Billion Deficit
1995 227.96 Billion Deficit
1996 145.125 Billion Deficit
1997 29.04 Billion Deficit
1998 89.96 Billion Surplus
1999 159.512 Billion Surplus
2000 290.772 Billion Surplus
2001 152.76 Billion Surplus

Then we get to the HEART of the Bush years

2002 186.204 Billion Deficit
2003 430.1 Billion Deficit
2004 462.56 Billion Deficit
2005 347.71 Billion Deficit
2006 260.4 Billion Deficit
2007 165.24 Billion Deficit
2008 455 Billion Deficit

And now we get to see what your hero Obama has accomplished

2009 1416 Billion Deficit
2010 1294 Billion Deficit
2011 1650 Billion Deficit
Ayreshire

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Sep 6, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
Not "still" but correctly blaming Bush. Did President Obama burn the Iraqi air force? NO.
Your Bush-baby ruined our country for a ddecader, maybe a generation. We are still suffering the Great Bush Recessuon, whether you will admitt it or not.
Obama is not crying but weakling Speaker Bohner is just likje TINY TEARS.
President Obama won back (approx) 4.2 of rhe 4.5 million jobs lost under Bush-baby. People ike yyou do quite a lot of "blame shifting," but your stupid votes for greedy stupid politicians put us in a hugh hole.
Blame yourself, crybaby.
Stop the filthy lying Obama Zombie!!
Let’s look at the Bureau of Labor Statistics data.
During the Bush presidency, net total employment went up by 1.08 million jobs. So far, during the Obama presidency, total employment has been reduced by 3.3 million jobs.
Under Bush, private employment shrank by 673,000 jobs, federal employment grew by 50,000 jobs, and government employment grew by 1,753,000 jobs.
Under Obama, the private sector has shed some 2.9 million jobs while the federal government has grown by 40,000 (after growing massively, the federal workforce shrank throughout the summer). Total government jobs, however, shrank by 357,000 jobs, mainly because of cuts at the state and local levels.
Now, we can’t really compare these numbers, because we have eight years of Bush data and only two years of Obama data. That’s why the chart below looks at the average monthly job creation under each president. There were more jobs created monthly under President Bush than under President Obama. Overall, most of the net jobs created under Bush were created in the government; many private sector jobs have been destroyed under Obama; and the number of government jobs has decreased, even though federal employment has grown.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/249516/j...
Ayreshire

Albuquerque, NM

#12 Sep 6, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
The Child President did set the stage for disaster. He destroyed Iraq'a air force with his "shock and awe" and "mission accomplished." Now he is back in Texas, not even allowed to speak at the RNC.
But who told McCain that he is US Secretary of State?
Who told Lieberman that he is president?
Why are these old fools play-acting at foreign relations, while the administration works this problem?
Are they trying to sabatage the effort to stop the shipments, or are they just politicking for the home folks?
dissensions, wars, divisions, hates ... around the world??? hey Dumbazz! Afghanistan was training terrorists responsible for murdering almost 4,000 American LIVES on 9/11. What are you saying clown?? That we should have just stuck our heads in the sand and cried our little eyes out?? Not hardly!! You may sit back and take it in the rear but most Americans were for taking out terrorist training camps responsible for 4,000 American Deaths!! Stop the ignorant nonsense!! Iraq's Saddam Hussein created a far greater humanitarian nightmare than Libya. "The Butcher of Baghdad" slaughtered, at minimum, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis -- far more people than were killed in Bosnia and Kosovo, where President Clinton ordered military force for humanitarian reasons. Yet, when weapons hunters found no stockpiles of WMD in Iraq, the dwindling number of pro-war Democrats turned against the war never mind the sickening sight of thousands of Iraqis found in shallow graves.
That Saddam possessed stockpiles of WMD, having used chemical weapons on the Iranians and his own people, was not in dispute. All 16 U.S. intelligences agencies thought so "with the highest probability." France, the United Kingdom, Russia, Egypt, Jordan, China, Israel and even Saddam's own generals assumed Iraq possessed WMD. Even U.N. weapons inspector and Iraq War critic Hans Blix thought Saddam likely possessed these weapons. As Blix admitted at a 2004 University of Berkeley forum:' I'm not here to have gut feelings. But yes, in December 2002 (three months before the invasion) I thought Saddam had weapons of mass destruction." The non-unilateralist Nobel Peace Prize laureate Obama, unlike Bush, sought no congressional war resolution. Obama, therefore, ordered military action against Libya "unilaterally" -- without the congressional approval that he once argued the Constitution demanded.

As Obama further explained in his December 2007 statement, "In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent." So a president, according to Obama, does not need congressional authority -- provided the action involves "self-defense" or "stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."

What is the "actual or imminent threat" to America posed by Libya?
Ritter served from 1991 to 1998 as a United Nations weapons inspector in Iraq in the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM), which was charged with finding and destroying all weapons of mass destruction and WMD-related manufacturing capabilities in Iraq. He was chief inspector in fourteen of the more than thirty inspection missions in which he participated.

In January 1998, his inspection team in Iraq was blocked from some weapons sites by Iraqi officials stating that information obtained from these sites would be used for future planning of attacks. UN Inspectors were ordered out of Iraq by the United States Government, shortly before Operation Desert Fox attacks began in December 1998, using information which had been gathered for the purpose of disarmament to identify targets which would reduce Iraq's ability to wage both conventional and possibly unconventional warfare. UN Weapons Inspectors were thereafter denied access to Iraq. He spoke on the Public Broadcasting Service show. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ritter
Ayreshire

Albuquerque, NM

#13 Sep 6, 2012
old possum wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? Still blaming Bush? LOL! That's what makes Obama the mature one? LOL! Thanks for proving that Obama is the One & Only Child President. Four years later and he's still crying, wetting his pants and telling Mommy & Daddy that "mean Georgie" did it. Nice of you to point that out.
Adults realize they are responsible for whatever position the acquire in life regardless of who had it in the past. Yes, a little blame shifting is ok for a short period. But after four f*cking years, Obama has proven to be just an enormous crybaby with a load in his diaper.
Excellent! Mr. uneducted Bill is an Obama Zombie!!
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#14 Sep 6, 2012
Ayreshire wrote:
<quoted text>Are you clueless and uneducated or what?? I would say with out a doubt YES!! Saddam had broken EVER U.N. Resolution from the First Gulf War and gave us every Right to go back in regardless of WMD's! Stop the ignorant nonsense!! Iraq's Saddam Hussein created a far greater humanitarian nightmare than Libya. "The Butcher of Baghdad" slaughtered, at minimum, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis -- far more people than were killed in Bosnia and Kosovo, where President Clinton ordered military force for humanitarian reasons. Yet, when weapons hunters found no stockpiles of WMD in Iraq, the dwindling number of pro-war Democrats turned against the war never mind the sickening sight of thousands of Iraqis found in shallow graves.
That Saddam possessed stockpiles of WMD, having used chemical weapons on the Iranians and his own people, was not in dispute. All 16 U.S. intelligences agencies thought so "with the highest probability." France, the United Kingdom, Russia, Egypt, Jordan, China, Israel and even Saddam's own generals assumed Iraq possessed WMD. Even U.N. weapons inspector and Iraq War critic Hans Blix thought Saddam likely possessed these weapons. As Blix admitted at a 2004 University of Berkeley forum:' I'm not here to have gut feelings. But yes, in December 2002 (three months before the invasion) I thought Saddam had weapons of mass destruction." The non-unilateralist Nobel Peace Prize laureate Obama, unlike Bush, sought no congressional war resolution. Obama, therefore, ordered military action against Libya "unilaterally" -- without the congressional approval that he once argued the Constitution demanded.
As Obama further explained in his December 2007 statement, "In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent." So a president, according to Obama, does not need congressional authority -- provided the action involves "self-defense" or "stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."
What is the "actual or imminent threat" to America posed by Libya?
Ritter served from 1991 to 1998 as a United Nations weapons inspector in Iraq in the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM), which was charged with finding and destroying all weapons of mass destruction and WMD-related manufacturing capabilities in Iraq. He was chief inspector in fourteen of the more than thirty inspection missions in which he participated.
In January 1998, his inspection team in Iraq was blocked from some weapons sites by Iraqi officials stating that information obtained from these sites would be used for future planning of attacks. UN Inspectors were ordered out of Iraq by the United States Government, shortly before Operation Desert Fox attacks began in December 1998, using information which had been gathered for the purpose of disarmament to identify targets which would reduce Iraq's ability to wage both conventional and possibly unconventional warfare. UN Weapons Inspectors were thereafter denied access to Iraq. He spoke on the Public Broadcasting Service show. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ritter
If we can invade ANY country that breaks US Resolutions, then the INVASION OF ISRAEL should be NEXT on our list.

Iraq violated 16 UN Resolutions. Israel violated 68!!

http://www.aljazeerah.info/Documents/Comparin...
Eleanor

Vernon Hills, IL

#15 Sep 6, 2012
Ayreshire wrote:
<quoted text>Are you clueless and uneducated or what?? I would say with out a doubt YES!! Saddam had broken EVER U.N. Resolution from the First Gulf War and gave us every Right to go back in regardless of WMD's! Stop the ignorant nonsense!! Iraq's Saddam Hussein created a far greater humanitarian nightmare than Libya. "The Butcher of Baghdad" slaughtered, at minimum, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis -- far more people than were killed in Bosnia and Kosovo, where President Clinton ordered military force for humanitarian reasons. Yet, when weapons hunters found no stockpiles of WMD in Iraq, the dwindling number of pro-war Democrats turned against the war never mind the sickening sight of thousands of Iraqis found in shallow graves.
That Saddam possessed stockpiles of WMD, having used chemical weapons on the Iranians and his own people, was not in dispute. All 16 U.S. intelligences agencies thought so "with the highest probability." France, the United Kingdom, Russia, Egypt, Jordan, China, Israel and even Saddam's own generals assumed Iraq possessed WMD. Even U.N. weapons inspector and Iraq War critic Hans Blix thought Saddam likely possessed these weapons. As Blix admitted at a 2004 University of Berkeley forum:' I'm not here to have gut feelings. But yes, in December 2002 (three months before the invasion) I thought Saddam had weapons of mass destruction." The non-unilateralist Nobel Peace Prize laureate Obama, unlike Bush, sought no congressional war resolution. Obama, therefore, ordered military action against Libya "unilaterally" -- without the congressional approval that he once argued the Constitution demanded.
As Obama further explained in his December 2007 statement, "In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent." So a president, according to Obama, does not need congressional authority -- provided the action involves "self-defense" or "stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."
What is the "actual or imminent threat" to America posed by Libya?
Ritter served from 1991 to 1998 as a United Nations weapons inspector in Iraq in the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM), which was charged with finding and destroying all weapons of mass destruction and WMD-related manufacturing capabilities in Iraq. He was chief inspector in fourteen of the more than thirty inspection missions in which he participated.
In January 1998, his inspection team in Iraq was blocked from some weapons sites by Iraqi officials stating that information obtained from these sites would be used for future planning of attacks. UN Inspectors were ordered out of Iraq by the United States Government, shortly before Operation Desert Fox attacks began in December 1998, using information which had been gathered for the purpose of disarmament to identify targets which would reduce Iraq's ability to wage both conventional and possibly unconventional warfare. UN Weapons Inspectors were thereafter denied access to Iraq. He spoke on the Public Broadcasting Service show. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ritter
And Israel has violated 68 UN Resolutions.(Iraq only 16). Should we also INVADE ISRAEL???(according to your logic, we should also invade them for violating UN Resolutions.) <DUH>

http://www.aljazeerah.info/Documents/Comparin...
Ayreshire

Albuquerque, NM

#16 Sep 6, 2012
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>
If we can invade ANY country that breaks US Resolutions, then the INVASION OF ISRAEL should be NEXT on our list.
Iraq violated 16 UN Resolutions. Israel violated 68!!
http://www.aljazeerah.info/Documents/Comparin...
No wonder you're sooooo ignorant!! Aljazeerah is your referense!! Get real clown!! Aljazeerah is one of the biggest anti-American, Anti-Jewish, Anti-Israel piece of horse manure! As if the educated are going to fall this silly nonsense you posted!!

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#17 Sep 6, 2012
Ayreshire wrote:
<quoted text>What an uneducated Obama Zombie!! The deficit for the 1st Year Clinton took office was:
1992 438.504 Billion Deficit
Then following that we have the following:
1993 374.997 Billion Deficit
1994 290.576 Billion Deficit
1995 227.96 Billion Deficit
1996 145.125 Billion Deficit
1997 29.04 Billion Deficit
1998 89.96 Billion Surplus
1999 159.512 Billion Surplus
2000 290.772 Billion Surplus
2001 152.76 Billion Surplus
Then we get to the HEART of the Bush years
2002 186.204 Billion Deficit
2003 430.1 Billion Deficit
2004 462.56 Billion Deficit
2005 347.71 Billion Deficit
2006 260.4 Billion Deficit
2007 165.24 Billion Deficit
2008 455 Billion Deficit
And now we get to see what your hero Obama has accomplished
2009 1416 Billion Deficit
2010 1294 Billion Deficit
2011 1650 Billion Deficit
To blame President Obama for fixing GW bush's horrible mess is simply a lie.

The deficit you blame on Obama was to recover from Bush's Great Recession, to end Bush's wars, and part and parcel of Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy. You can deny this with lore lies, but thety will just be lies.

Bush left a grand mess, and you cannot deny that.
Obama came a long way toward fixing that mess, and you cannot deny that.
Ayreshire

Albuquerque, NM

#18 Sep 6, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
To blame President Obama for fixing GW bush's horrible mess is simply a lie.
The deficit you blame on Obama was to recover from Bush's Great Recession, that.
Obama came a long way toward fixing that mess, and you cannot deny that.
Hey Obama Zombie!! It's too bad that the Pelosi/Reid 2007-2010 democrat-controlled congress overrode Bush's budgets to loot the treasury for $3 trillion and triple the deficit (from $161b to $455b). Of course Obama's increased that deficit TENFOLD. But's that's just fine with you. LOL!
And "Bush's recession"?! LOL! It was the democRATS' recession.
________
Where does spending originate? I'll give you a clue, since you've never had one....
Spending originates in the House of Representatives.
Now for a little Q & A....
Q: Who controlled the House during all that spending that you're referring to?
A: Democrats.
Q: Who controlled the House in 2007 and 2008 and overrode Bush's budgets to loot the treasury for $3 trillion and triple the deficit (from $161b to $455b)?
A: Democrats.
Q: Who controlled the House from January 2007 to May 2010, and added $6 trillion to the national debt ($4+ trillion under Obama)?
A: Democrats.
Q: Who controlled the House from January 2007 to May 2010, and increased the deficit TENFOLD, from $161 billion to $1.6 trillion?
A: Democrats.
Q: Who controlled the House from January 2007 to May 2010, and increased the debt limit by $5.33 trillion (+59.4%)?
A: Democrats.
Q: Who controlled the House from January 2007 to May 2010, when 6.5 million jobs were lost?
A: Democrats.
Q: Who controlled the House in 2009 and 2010 and couldn't even pass a budget, yet approved Obama's mega-trillions in deficit spending?
A: Democrats.
________
Q: Who controlled the House from January 1995 to January 2001, and had to drag Bubba Clinton kicking and screaming to a balanced budget?
A: Republicans.
Q: Who controlled the House from January 1995 to January 2001, when 16.1 million jobs were created?
A: Republicans.
Q: Who controlled the House from January 2003 to January 2007, when 6.8 million jobs were created?
A: Republicans.
Q: Who controlled the House since January 2011, and rejected Obama's outrageous $1.6 trillion budget deficits?
A: Republicans.
________
Democrat fiscal damage incarnate, in 5 consecutive posts....
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/T9BKF6 ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/T9BKF6 ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/T9BKF6 ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/T9BKF6 ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/T9BKF6 ...
Ayreshire

Albuquerque, NM

#19 Sep 6, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
To blame President Obama for fixing GW bush's horrible mess is simply a lie.
The deficit you blame on Obama was to recover from Bush's Great Recession, to end Bush's wars, and part and parcel of Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy. You can deny this with lore lies, but thety will just be lies.
Bush left a grand mess, and you cannot deny that.
Obama came a long way toward fixing that mess, and you cannot deny that.
Bush and the Republicans did not leave this country to a financial disaster. That’s an out and out lie. Your party (The Democratic Party) did it on its own. The day the Democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009. It was actually January 3rd 2007. It was the day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and Senate, the start of the 110th Congress. The Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995. For those of you who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is Bush's Fault, think about this: January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress:
The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5 percent
The Unemployment rate was 4.6 percent
George Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION!
Now let’s go back to January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee. The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy? It’s the BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES run by Barney (Elmer Fudd) Frank and Dodd! Bush asked Congress numerous times to look into Fannie & Freddie starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy. And who took the third highest pay-off from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? Why it was Obama. And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie? It was OBAMA (as part of the Black Caucus) and the Democratic Congress. You can thank Democrats for taking us from a 4.6% Unemployment to levels we have not seen in 30 years and a tripling of the deficit. So when someone tries to blame Bush remember January 3rd, 2007. THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK CONTROL OF CONGRESS! Bush may have been in the car but the Democrats were in charge of the gas pedal and steering wheel they were driving.
Ayreshire

Albuquerque, NM

#20 Sep 6, 2012
Eleanor wrote:
<quoted text>
And Israel has violated 68 UN Resolutions.(Iraq only 16). Should we also INVADE ISRAEL???(according to your logic, we should also invade them for violating UN Resolutions.) <DUH>
http://www.aljazeerah.info/Documents/Comparin...
HOW MANY WAR CRIMES DID PALESTINIAN HAMAS COMMIT EVERY TIME THEY FIRE A ROCKET INTO ISRAEL OR SEND IN A SUICIDE BOMBER?? NOW TIMES THAT BY TEN THOUSAND!! YOU ARE A BLOOMING FILTHY LYING SCUMBAG!! What I don't like is the continued bashing of Israel that you clowns love to do. You're all a bunch of crazed Muslims with nothing better to do than to use your childish mentality to demean the ONLY country in the Middle East that doesn’t take OUR Foreign Aid and bank the money in private accounts while their people suffer (Remember Arafat??), support terrorists, harbor terrorists, buy arms for terrorists or use it for building Mosques as they incite hatred toward the good old USA. The outright lies, distortions and propaganda are what I'm going after. When Israel attacks Hamas it is retaliation for attacks on them dummy!! Hamas used women and children as human shields. So when Women and children die, you clowns start foaming at the mouth!! They only Attack HAMAS or those responsible for suicide and rocket attack on Israel Dummy!! Israel does not attack for no reason and never has. It is only after they have been provoked!! Learn your History and stop making yourself look like a fool!! The Arabs have muddied the world for decades with their furious protest that their land has been “stolen” from them. One might take seriously such a statement if it came from a pacifist people such as the Tibetans, who had quietly inhabited their land for ages before it was seized by the Communist Chinese in 1950. The claim is laughable coming from the Arabs, who in the early Middle Ages conquered and reduced to slavery and penury ancient peoples and civilizations stretching from the borders of Persia to the Atlantic; who in 1947 rejected an Arab state in Palestine alongside a Jewish state and sought to obliterate the nascent Jewish state; who never called for a distinct Palestinian Arab state until the creation of the terrorist PLO in 1964—sixteen years after the founding of the state of Israel; and who to this moment continue to seek Israel’s destruction, an object that would be enormously advanced by the creation of the Arab state they demand. The Arab claim to sovereign rights west of the Jordan is only humored today because of a fatal combination of world need for Arab oil, leftist Political Correctness that has cast the Israelis as “oppressors,” and, of course, good old Jew-hatred.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#21 Sep 6, 2012
Ayreshire wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Obama Zombie!! It's too bad that the Pelosi/Reid 2007-2010 democrat-controlled congress overrode Bush's budgets to loot the treasury for $3 trillion and triple the deficit (from $161b to $455b). Of course Obama's increased that deficit TENFOLD. But's that's just fine with you. LOL!
And "Bush's recession"?! LOL! It was the democRATS' recession.
________
Where does spending originate? I'll give you a clue, since you've never had one....
Spending originates in the House of Representatives.
Now for a little Q & A....
Q: Who controlled the House during all that spending that you're referring to?
A: Democrats.
Q: Who controlled the House in 2007 and 2008 and overrode Bush's budgets to loot the treasury for $3 trillion and triple the deficit (from $161b to $455b)?
A: Democrats.
Q: Who controlled the House from January 2007 to May 2010, and added $6 trillion to the national debt ($4+ trillion under Obama)?
A: Democrats.
Q: Who controlled the House from January 2007 to May 2010, and increased the deficit TENFOLD, from $161 billion to $1.6 trillion?
A: Democrats.
Q: Who controlled the House from January 2007 to May 2010, and increased the debt limit by $5.33 trillion (+59.4%)?
A: Democrats.
Q: Who controlled the House from January 2007 to May 2010, when 6.5 million jobs were lost?
A: Democrats.
Q: Who controlled the House in 2009 and 2010 and couldn't even pass a budget, yet approved Obama's mega-trillions in deficit spending?
A: Democrats.
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Q: Who controlled the House from January 1995 to January 2001, and had to drag Bubba Clinton kicking and screaming to a balanced budget?
A: Republicans.
Q: Who controlled the House from January 1995 to January 2001, when 16.1 million jobs were created?
A: Republicans.
Q: Who controlled the House from January 2003 to January 2007, when 6.8 million jobs were created?
A: Republicans.
Q: Who controlled the House since January 2011, and rejected Obama's outrageous $1.6 trillion budget deficits?
A: Republicans.
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Democrat fiscal damage incarnate, in 5 consecutive posts....
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/T9BKF6 ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/T9BKF6 ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/T9BKF6 ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/T9BKF6 ...
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/T9BKF6 ...
You continue to deny the result of your support for Bush.

The huge deficits were approved because we had troops under fire.
The reality is that once GW Bush committed US troopps, the congress had to support them. That's not "politics" it is responsibility.

And Bush committed the troops with his SHOCK and AWE, followed by the invasion, and rolling up of Saddam Hussain's Republican Guard; followed by Rumsfeld's insanely costly but ineffective occupation of Iraq.

The Congress paid, and Bush also vowed to veto any tax increase, unlike his father. Thus the debt you falsely try to avoid.

Bush did it, you wanted it, be proud of your debt. You had Hussain in aa hole, and had him hanged.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

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