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GOP senators in final drive to stall health bill

There are 21 comments on the El Paso Times story from Mar 24, 2010, titled GOP senators in final drive to stall health bill. In it, El Paso Times reports that:

In a final drive to thwart President Barack Obama's health care remake, Republican senators plan to force Democrats to run a gantlet of politically dicey votes before they can finish a companion bill to the landmark law.

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Ileana

Dallas, TX

#1 Mar 24, 2010
Wow I think this bill instead of helping americans it will create a lot of problems. I have many questions that are going through my mind. What's going to happen if you have a small business, your going to have to pay healthcare for your employees, your not goint to be able to afford this. Another is what if you work an independent and yet you don't make enough money, in my case I work as independent only 20 hours per week, I would have to pay for my own insurance, I can't afford it, as it is I'm barely making it because, i'm a full time student also and a single mother. I don't think the people that hire me will be willing to pay insurance, because I'm my own boss and I have to have a very flexible schedule, because of school and my daughter, I can't go work for someone else and change my schedule every semester. This bill I think it unconstitutional.
Tanilo del Chuco

United States

#2 Mar 24, 2010
I'm a 66-year-old conservative businessman and an Independent voter. I have mostly just contempt and derision for both so called "political parties." But I especially have contempt for these Republicans.

What in the heck do they want? They--or thier constituents--have whined and whined and pouted and felt sorry for themselves for at least 30 years--and done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to at least try to make things better.

There should be a prerequisite that says that, to be a legislator, you need to grow up. You need to learn about compromise, and about giving things a chance, and trying to make things better.

In business, a common, expected part of strategic planning is that, as you go through the introduction and development of a new major initiative, you constantly check it and modify it, as need be.

I think both parties stink, but given the do-nothing (but destroy tinhorn weak nations) of the Republican party, I don't think these weak, frankly childish and cowardly-behaving, little brats should open their arrogant, sarcastic little jibs.

If you're not going to want to join in with the rest of the American Public and try to help make things better, shut up and go play with your privates at home, you big babies.

And after seeing the whiney, ignorant response of about 66% of the American public to the hard work that's been done to date, all I can say is, NO WONDER NO ONE IN CONGRESS WANTS TO TRY TO DO ANYTHING! No matter what you do, the lazy, childish, spoiled rotten ignoramuses who are easily led by the emotional manipulators of both parties, are just going to destroy, rather than support, your efforts, so what's the use?
Pablo

El Paso, TX

#3 Mar 24, 2010
Let's get rid of Silvestre Reyes!

Tim Besco can defeat him.

http://www.letsgobesco.com/
rav

United States

#4 Mar 24, 2010
Ileana wrote:
Wow I think this bill instead of helping americans it will create a lot of problems. I have many questions that are going through my mind. What's going to happen if you have a small business, your going to have to pay healthcare for your employees, your not goint to be able to afford this. Another is what if you work an independent and yet you don't make enough money, in my case I work as independent only 20 hours per week, I would have to pay for my own insurance, I can't afford it, as it is I'm barely making it because, i'm a full time student also and a single mother. I don't think the people that hire me will be willing to pay insurance, because I'm my own boss and I have to have a very flexible schedule, because of school and my daughter, I can't go work for someone else and change my schedule every semester. This bill I think it unconstitutional.
If you have a small bussines less than 50 employees you wont get a penalty. If you help pay for the insurance you will get a refund of 35% of what you pay. Now what your saying seem kinda dumb people are going to hire people because they have too. Plus if you work part time you are not always eligable to get health care. Really what is going to happen is that there making it so medic aid is more open up to people that need it. LIKE YOU that works 20 hours if you dont make enough money they are trying to make it easier for you to get medic aid or if you make enough money you will be getting an affordable insurance. IT MAKE SENSE
rav

United States

#5 Mar 24, 2010
Tanilo del Chuco wrote:
I'm a 66-year-old conservative businessman and an Independent voter. I have mostly just contempt and derision for both so called "political parties." But I especially have contempt for these Republicans.
What in the heck do they want? They--or thier constituents--have whined and whined and pouted and felt sorry for themselves for at least 30 years--and done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to at least try to make things better.
There should be a prerequisite that says that, to be a legislator, you need to grow up. You need to learn about compromise, and about giving things a chance, and trying to make things better.
In business, a common, expected part of strategic planning is that, as you go through the introduction and development of a new major initiative, you constantly check it and modify it, as need be.
I think both parties stink, but given the do-nothing (but destroy tinhorn weak nations) of the Republican party, I don't think these weak, frankly childish and cowardly-behaving, little brats should open their arrogant, sarcastic little jibs.
If you're not going to want to join in with the rest of the American Public and try to help make things better, shut up and go play with your privates at home, you big babies.
And after seeing the whiney, ignorant response of about 66% of the American public to the hard work that's been done to date, all I can say is, NO WONDER NO ONE IN CONGRESS WANTS TO TRY TO DO ANYTHING! No matter what you do, the lazy, childish, spoiled rotten ignoramuses who are easily led by the emotional manipulators of both parties, are just going to destroy, rather than support, your efforts, so what's the use?
AMEN .No one is ever happy. We call out our elected officials when they don't do what they promised and we act up when they do. We never know what we want. The U.S as a nation is biopolar. Everyone as long as i have lived has wanted health coverage and know we cry what is up with that. OHH and i forgot about telling you working mom you will qualify for any pre exsiting conditons.
Don from Las Cruces

El Paso, TX

#6 Mar 24, 2010
Hey "Tanilo del Chuco"..Your last paragraph makes my arguement for opposing this bill. 66% of the population does not want it! Thanks for the help!
rav

United States

#7 Mar 24, 2010
Don from Las Cruces wrote:
Hey "Tanilo del Chuco"..Your last paragraph makes my arguement for opposing this bill. 66% of the population does not want it! Thanks for the help!
Oka so why are you opposing it because 66% of people do????
Don from Las Cruces

El Paso, TX

#8 Mar 24, 2010
Hey rav: I'm part of the 66%. What ever happened to "majority rule"? Our elected representatives are there to do the will of the majority, not the minority.
Ileana

Dallas, TX

#9 Mar 24, 2010
Rav, What I meant was, who is going to hire me part-time and who would want to pay for my insurance if I only work part-time, but you already answered that question. I guess that what concerns me is, if I would have to pay for my insurance. I hope it is true that I would be able to qualify for benefits without paying for it myself, but then again sometimes you make $100 more than what is required and the system throws you out. Hopefully the health reform is better.
rav

United States

#10 Mar 24, 2010
Don from Las Cruces wrote:
Hey rav: I'm part of the 66%. What ever happened to "majority rule"? Our elected representatives are there to do the will of the majority, not the minority.
Great question, well lets start of by asking george bush that when he won his 1st pres race. Wasnt gore leading in popular vote. Either way we pay for pick up the tab for people when they go to hospitals and cant pay. Why are you against it thou. I asked and you didnt answer guess your just a follower
rav

United States

#11 Mar 24, 2010
Ileana wrote:
Rav, What I meant was, who is going to hire me part-time and who would want to pay for my insurance if I only work part-time, but you already answered that question. I guess that what concerns me is, if I would have to pay for my insurance. I hope it is true that I would be able to qualify for benefits without paying for it myself, but then again sometimes you make $100 more than what is required and the system throws you out. Hopefully the health reform is better.
Like i said the health reform will open up medic aid and medicair for people that need it. In this case you might qualify for it when before you didnt. You would pay 0 if you did. Another good thing is that if you dont persay. Any insurance company has to approve you no matter what your previous healt has been.

Let me ask you this. Do you think you deserve the best health care possible?? Or do you belive that your $$$$ talks and thats what gets you better health care??? I have insuarnce and my own bussiness and ive seen how the insuarnce companys are.
Don from Las Cruces

El Paso, TX

#12 Mar 24, 2010
Rav, thank you for the reply. I'm not against health care reform. I'm against THIS health care reform. It would be far less expensive for the tax payers if one million dollars were to be alloted anually for each of the thirty six million uninsured (Obama's figures)citizens for their health care. We will be burdened for ever by this trillion dollar bill the way it is written. Anyway, what does the take over of education loans that is written into the bill have to do with health care? And if this bill is so good, why did the congress and senate vote themselves out of it? And if this bull is so good, why did the Democrats have to bribe their own members with God knows what to get their votes. Think about it.
rav

United States

#13 Mar 24, 2010
Don from Las Cruces wrote:
Rav, thank you for the reply. I'm not against health care reform. I'm against THIS health care reform. It would be far less expensive for the tax payers if one million dollars were to be alloted anually for each of the thirty six million uninsured (Obama's figures)citizens for their health care. We will be burdened for ever by this trillion dollar bill the way it is written. Anyway, what does the take over of education loans that is written into the bill have to do with health care? And if this bill is so good, why did the congress and senate vote themselves out of it? And if this bull is so good, why did the Democrats have to bribe their own members with God knows what to get their votes. Think about it.
Because people in congress especially are affraid we will become a socialist country. That is it. You as a mother know that sometimes you risk something ahead of time to get more from it in the future. ex: no one like to lose money on anything. Some people hate having ira's or cds. But lets say you open up a cd with 5 k how much will you get in the long run. Everyone wants this to be simple but its not. You think its far for people to be turned away from a hospital beacause they dont have insurance??? Funny how we think we are a nation that is so far ahead yet we turn away our sick and dont even look back. If countries LIKE MEXICO CUBA CANADA FRANCE UK etc etc have some kind of health care reform why should the best country in the world be left behind????
DANTES

San Antonio, TX

#14 Mar 24, 2010
Tanilo del Chuco wrote:
I'm a 66-year-old conservative businessman and an Independent voter. I have mostly just contempt and derision for both so called "political parties." But I especially have contempt for these Republicans.
What in the heck do they want? They--or thier constituents--have whined and whined and pouted and felt sorry for themselves for at least 30 years--and done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to at least try to make things better.
There should be a prerequisite that says that, to be a legislator, you need to grow up. You need to learn about compromise, and about giving things a chance, and trying to make things better.
In business, a common, expected part of strategic planning is that, as you go through the introduction and development of a new major initiative, you constantly check it and modify it, as need be.
I think both parties stink, but given the do-nothing (but destroy tinhorn weak nations) of the Republican party, I don't think these weak, frankly childish and cowardly-behaving, little brats should open their arrogant, sarcastic little jibs.
If you're not going to want to join in with the rest of the American Public and try to help make things better, shut up and go play with your privates at home, you big babies.
And after seeing the whiney, ignorant response of about 66% of the American public to the hard work that's been done to date, all I can say is, NO WONDER NO ONE IN CONGRESS WANTS TO TRY TO DO ANYTHING! No matter what you do, the lazy, childish, spoiled rotten ignoramuses who are easily led by the emotional manipulators of both parties, are just going to destroy, rather than support, your efforts, so what's the use?
FINALLY.......I NEVER THOUGHT I'D READ SOMETHING TRUE AND GREAT ON MY VERY FORMER TOWN'S PAPER. YES, THE DEMOCARTS LACK, AS I AM ONE. BUT THE REPUBLICATNS ARE JSUT USING UP KLEENEX BOXES IN RECORD NUMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR BEING CONSERVATIVE AND YET REAL. BETTER THE COUNTRY. IN DOING SO, IS IT IMPORTANT TO BE AFFILIATED WITH POLITICAL PARTY?
OH, BY THE WAY, I MUST HAVE MISSED THE PLETHORA OF SOLUTIONS BY THE REPUBLICANTS FOR HEALTHCARE. THEIR VOCABULARY IS EASY - THE WORD 'NO' IS THE EXTENT OF IT.
I'VE GOT TO GET BACK TO UNLOADING THE BOXES OF KLEENEX FOR THE POOR BABIES.
rav

United States

#15 Mar 24, 2010
and if 36 million people would be uninsured the number to cover that would be fare more than 1 million. Oh and i just looked something up its actually about 46 million uninsured people in the us. So really if you have ever gone to a hospital u might pay as little as 5k or maybe up to 10 k. So thats a cosy of 230-460 billion dollars a year.. A YEAR that is costing us. Of course not all 46 million people go the hospital but dont say its only 1 million
Don from Las Cruces

El Paso, TX

#16 Mar 24, 2010
Hey rav, read it again. I said 36 million people because that is what Obama stated. I also stated to put aside one million dollars for EACH of the 36 million people per year. This is far less that the one trillion this bill will cost us. Anyway, my daddy told me never to argue with a fool...after a while those around you will start wondering which is which. Bye!
rav

United States

#17 Mar 24, 2010
Don from Las Cruces wrote:
Hey rav, read it again. I said 36 million people because that is what Obama stated. I also stated to put aside one million dollars for EACH of the 36 million people per year. This is far less that the one trillion this bill will cost us. Anyway, my daddy told me never to argue with a fool...after a while those around you will start wondering which is which. Bye!
Lol thats what 36 trillion man your such a fool. Man really shows how stupid you are. When did he say they send me a quote. Because all ive found says its from 45-47 million. But bye make some sense next time. LOL 1 million for each of those 36 million people lmao man ur so damn stupid
rav

United States

#18 Mar 24, 2010
In fact, according to the latest available data from the U.S. Census Bureau, there are 35.920 million uninsured U.S. citizens and 9.737 million uninsured foreign nationals residing in the United States. Counting the uninsured foreign nationals, that makes a total of 45.657 million—or “nearly 46 million”-- uninsured people in the United States.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/print/52593

There you go moron a real fact!!!!!!
RealChange

Oklahoma City, OK

#19 Mar 24, 2010
Don from Las Cruces wrote:
Hey rav: I'm part of the 66%. What ever happened to "majority rule"? Our elected representatives are there to do the will of the majority, not the minority.
But, what you all forget is that Pres. Obama has been saying he wanted healthcare reform for the last 4 years. Way before he ever won the Democratic primary. Then, against McCain, healthcare reform was one of, if not the main, platform he ran on. Everyone knew that he wanted reform. And, guess what.... He easily defeated McCain by several million votes. Therefore, the majority of US citizens voted him in knowing that he would reform healthcare. It's not like he suprised everyone. So, our elected representative IS doing the will of the majority.
rav

United States

#20 Mar 24, 2010
RealChange wrote:
<quoted text>
But, what you all forget is that Pres. Obama has been saying he wanted healthcare reform for the last 4 years. Way before he ever won the Democratic primary. Then, against McCain, healthcare reform was one of, if not the main, platform he ran on. Everyone knew that he wanted reform. And, guess what.... He easily defeated McCain by several million votes. Therefore, the majority of US citizens voted him in knowing that he would reform healthcare. It's not like he suprised everyone. So, our elected representative IS doing the will of the majority.
You are telling this to someone who is completly clueless. Didn't you see where he said it would be cheaper to give the 36 million people without health insurance 1 million dollars than to pass these health reform bill. Its like arguing with a two year old.

GOOD LUCK

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