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Senate Democrats threaten to change filibuster rules on a party-line vote

There are 252 comments on the Washington Post story from Nov 21, 2013, titled Senate Democrats threaten to change filibuster rules on a party-line vote. In it, Washington Post reports that:

Senate Majority Leader Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., speaks to the media on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, Nov. 19, 2013.

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Chicopee

New Fairfield, CT

#267 Nov 27, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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When you're not actually engaging in any debate, but simply blocking every nominee for the sake of blocking every nominee, that's obstructionism; not good government.
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The Filibuster is not part of the Constitution.
The filibuster is not enumerated in the Constitution...nor is it prohibited by it.

If a challenge were to be brought before the SC, this would actually be a very complicated matter, based on Article I, section 5 and the fact that it's clearly established by precedent as a consistent senate rule for the last 217 years. If the senate wants to vote on rule changes, it should be done according to Article I, section 5.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#268 Nov 28, 2013
Chicopee wrote:
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The filibuster is not enumerated in the Constitution...nor is it prohibited by it.
If a challenge were to be brought before the SC, this would actually be a very complicated matter, based on Article I, section 5 and the fact that it's clearly established by precedent as a consistent senate rule for the last 217 years. If the senate wants to vote on rule changes, it should be done according to Article I, section 5.
They DID follow the rules to change the rules.

Since: Dec 11

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#269 Nov 28, 2013
Chicopee wrote:
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If a challenge were to be brought before the SC, this would actually be a very complicated matter, based on Article I, section 5 and the fact that it's clearly established by precedent as a consistent senate rule for the last 217 years. If the senate wants to vote on rule changes, it should be done according to Article I, section 5.
If this was brought to the SCOTUS, it would be a very simple matter.

"Hey Senate, you changed a Senate rule! Who says you can do that?
"Article 1 Section 5."
"Ok, bye."

“bar0ckalypse n0w”

Since: Mar 10

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#270 Nov 28, 2013
Kanye on Obama's Failures: 'Black People Don't Have the Same Connections as Jewish People'...

“Baby Obama”

Since: Jun 08

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#272 Dec 2, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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If this was brought to the SCOTUS, it would be a very simple matter.
"Hey Senate, you changed a Senate rule! Who says you can do that?
"Article 1 Section 5."
"Ok, bye."
Artilce 3; Section 3;

Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them,(here's the important part) or IN ADHERING TO THEIR ENEMIES, GIVING THEM AID AND COMFORT......

President Obama is knowingly selling weapons to Al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood is Syria.

GTFO BO

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#274 Dec 2, 2013
Space Cowboy wrote:
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Artilce 3; Section 3;
Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them,(here's the important part) or IN ADHERING TO THEIR ENEMIES, GIVING THEM AID AND COMFORT......
President Obama is knowingly selling weapons to Al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood is Syria.
GTFO BO
Nothing like Reagan did with Iran / Contra you moron.

Dig up all the supposed charges you like son - history and people who went to prison on behalf of the republican party speak volumes son!

“bar0ckalypse n0w”

Since: Mar 10

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#275 Dec 2, 2013
TonyT1961 wrote:
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Nothing like Reagan did with Iran / Contra you moron.
Dig up all the supposed charges you like son - history and people who went to prison on behalf of the republican party speak volumes son!
Reagan spread freedom and prosperity.

barock is spreading totalitarianism and poverty through appeasement.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#276 Dec 2, 2013
mjjcpa wrote:
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Reagan spread freedom and prosperity.
barock is spreading totalitarianism and poverty through appeasement.
All you need is proof McJizzem / opps, "professor????"

Something you never have.
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#277 Dec 2, 2013
mjjcpa wrote:
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Reagan spread freedom and prosperity.
barock is spreading totalitarianism and poverty through appeasement.
Reagan ran an international criminal cartel from the oval. The democrats refused to impeach Reagan for his crimes and disregard for Congressional enacted legislation forbidding his activities around the world.

The Reagan Administration was not as great as some think.

The best and most tragic example was El Salvador. In the 1980’s, El Salvador was experiencing a civil war. The country was spilt- it was the Salvadoran government versus the Farabundo Marti Liberation Front (FMLN). The FMLN was a Communist group in El Salvador, so the U.S. supported the Salvadoran government against the Communists. The U.S. funded the government heavily.“... Military and economic aid to El Salvador was 3 billion dollars since 1980. Two-thirds of the 750,000 people who fled El Salvador ended up in the U.S.: many were deported back to join the imprisoned or the disappeared.” That statement alone is proof that even if the Reagan Administration was not involved in the killings of people directly in El Salvador, they were not willing to help when they fled for safety to the United States. It alludes to the fact that many civilians had “disappeared” never to be seen or heard from again. This is something that people of the world are most familiar with hearing when discussing the Holocaust.“In El Salvador, Martinez, the former rebel leader, said the U.S.-backed wars under Reagan created a massive wave of refugees who fled to the United States. He called that migration, which created a huge Salvadoran population in Washington,‘the daughter of Reagan's policies.’ He also said Central America's rampant street gangs were ‘the grandchildren’ of Reagan's policies. Many gang members are people who had fled the wars, learned gang culture in Los Angeles or New York, then brought it home, creating the region's most critical security issue.”

“bar0ckalypse n0w”

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#278 Dec 2, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
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Reagan ran an international criminal cartel from the oval. The democrats refused to impeach Reagan for his crimes and disregard for Congressional enacted legislation forbidding his activities around the world.
The Reagan Administration was not as great as some think.
The best and most tragic example was El Salvador. In the 1980’s, El Salvador was experiencing a civil war. The country was spilt- it was the Salvadoran government versus the Farabundo Marti Liberation Front (FMLN). The FMLN was a Communist group in El Salvador, so the U.S. supported the Salvadoran government against the Communists. The U.S. funded the government heavily.“... Military and economic aid to El Salvador was 3 billion dollars since 1980. Two-thirds of the 750,000 people who fled El Salvador ended up in the U.S.: many were deported back to join the imprisoned or the disappeared.” That statement alone is proof that even if the Reagan Administration was not involved in the killings of people directly in El Salvador, they were not willing to help when they fled for safety to the United States. It alludes to the fact that many civilians had “disappeared” never to be seen or heard from again. This is something that people of the world are most familiar with hearing when discussing the Holocaust.“In El Salvador, Martinez, the former rebel leader, said the U.S.-backed wars under Reagan created a massive wave of refugees who fled to the United States. He called that migration, which created a huge Salvadoran population in Washington,‘the daughter of Reagan's policies.’ He also said Central America's rampant street gangs were ‘the grandchildren’ of Reagan's policies. Many gang members are people who had fled the wars, learned gang culture in Los Angeles or New York, then brought it home, creating the region's most critical security issue.”
I can see how a liberal socialist like you could hate Reagan.

As the century's greatest President, Reagan enabled two decades of prosperity with tax reform and put the soviet union (your pals) out of business.

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani vowed to “forge ahead” with Iran’s nuclear enrichment program over the weekend and announced the upcoming construction of a second nuclear reactor in the province of Bushehr.

Iran’s Bushehr nuclear power plant came online in 2011 and is operated with the assistance of the Russians. Rouhani said that a second reactor would be built in the near future.

barock the appeaser strikes again.

“bar0ckalypse n0w”

Since: Mar 10

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#279 Dec 2, 2013
TonyT1961 wrote:
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All you need is proof McJizzem / opps, "professor????"
Something you never have.
The Ukraine had a barock revolt over the weekend.

Tear gas has never been in greater use, thanks to the golfing campaigner.

“Baby Obama”

Since: Jun 08

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#280 Dec 2, 2013
TonyT1961 wrote:
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Nothing like Reagan did with Iran / Contra you moron.
Dig up all the supposed charges you like son - history and people who went to prison on behalf of the republican party speak volumes son!
We're aren't talking about Reagan..

We are talking about the Islam-Loving, Al-Qaeda arming, Lying Dictator, Barack Hussien Obama.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#281 Dec 2, 2013
Space Cowboy wrote:
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Artilce 3; Section 3;
Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them,(here's the important part) or IN ADHERING TO THEIR ENEMIES, GIVING THEM AID AND COMFORT......
President Obama is knowingly selling weapons to Al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood is Syria.
GTFO BO
So bring articles of impeachment against the President, or STFU!

“Baby Obama”

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#282 Dec 2, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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So bring articles of impeachment against the President, or STFU!
If I were a member of Congress, I would have already done it.

Have to wait until the Republicans take the Senate in 2014.

51 votes.

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#283 Dec 2, 2013
Space Cowboy wrote:
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If I were a member of Congress, I would have already done it.
Have to wait until the Republicans take the Senate in 2014.
51 votes.
Hey stooopid - you need 67 votes for impeachment you jughead!

Then, you need an impeachable offense.

Moron! Don't have a clue how impeachment proceedings work?

“have seen the years,”

Since: Mar 10

and the slow parade of fears"

#284 Dec 2, 2013
Space Cowboy wrote:
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If I were a member of Congress, I would have already done it.
Have to wait until the Republicans take the Senate in 2014.
51 votes.
TonyT1961 wrote:
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Hey stooopid - you need 67 votes for impeachment you jughead!
Then, you need an impeachable offense.
Moron! Don't have a clue how impeachment proceedings work?
DME wrote:
Not to mention that most, if not all repugnantcan members of Congress are irreparably doomed. Congress got a 9% approval rating today. Doubt there is any need to state the historical, much less political implications in that 1-digit number. They are way, way beyond stooopid jugheads at this point.("jugheads"?!? !?! Really?)

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#286 Dec 3, 2013
Space Cowboy wrote:
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If I were a member of Congress, I would have already done it.
Have to wait until the Republicans take the Senate in 2014.
51 votes.
The HOUSE brings articles of impeachment, and the GOPasaurs already have a majority there.

It takes a 2/3rd vote in the Senate to convict.

That's in the Constitution and can't be changed by simple majority vote.

Try learning how our govt works and maybe you wouldn't sound so stupid.

“Baby Obama”

Since: Jun 08

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#287 Dec 3, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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It takes a 2/3rd vote in the Senate to convict.
That's in the Constitution and can't be changed by simple majority vote.
Try learning how our govt works and maybe you wouldn't sound so stupid.
That's what you have saying, the Senate can change the rules.

Rules don't apply anymore. What was up is now down, what was solid is now liquid. Anything goes. As long as little Barry gets his way.

It's a shame so many of you approve of all the lies and deception that is going on in this White House. You are all basically co-conspirators.

You are a pitiful bunch.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#288 Dec 3, 2013
Space Cowboy wrote:
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That's what you have saying, the Senate can change the rules.
Rules don't apply anymore. What was up is now down, what was solid is now liquid. Anything goes. As long as little Barry gets his way.
It's a shame so many of you approve of all the lies and deception that is going on in this White House. You are all basically co-conspirators.
You are a pitiful bunch.
The Senate can't change the constitution.

The constitution requires a 2/3rd vote to impeach.

You are a moron.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#289 Dec 3, 2013
Space Cowboy wrote:
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That's what you have saying, the Senate can change the rules.
Rules don't apply anymore. What was up is now down, what was solid is now liquid. Anything goes. As long as little Barry gets his way.
It's a shame so many of you approve of all the lies and deception that is going on in this White House. You are all basically co-conspirators.
You are a pitiful bunch.
Are you THAT stupid you don't understand the difference between Senate rules and the Constitution?

No wonder you Teabaggers keep losing.

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